Canadian politition on Americans: They're "B*stards"

[Segnosaur]

Canadians may have heard this....

Carolyn Parrish, one of the members of parliment here in Canada (she is part of the ruling liberal party), recently got into trouble for making the following statement to reporters:

"D*mn Americans. . . . I hate those b*stards."

(http://cbc.ca/stories/2003/02/26/bastards030226)

But don't worry. She appologized later, saying "My comments do not reflect my personal opinion of the American people."

The government also got into trouble last year when one of the Prime Minister's advisors was heard calling president Bush a "moron".

I guess Canada is trying to be as condescending as the French. Is it working yet?

[corplinx]

I would love to be canadian. Alaska to the left, greenland to the east, America to the south, a polar cap to the North. You have american ports and production to live off of, no enemies. You can live on that ivory tower your entire life.

[Javalar]

Originally posted by corplinx
I would love to be canadian. Alaska to the left, greenland to the east, America to the south, a polar cap to the North. You have american ports and production to live off of, no enemies. You can live on that ivory tower your entire life. Oh my! My mistake! We should never insult our American masters! :mad:

I don't think she should have appologized. We are in a free country after all. It just wasn't the time or place.

BTW, F@@k you corplinx! We have our own ports (I just happen to be in a port town right now) and we buy your production.

[Cecil]

Originally posted by corplinx
I would love to be canadian. Alaska to the left, greenland to the east, America to the south, a polar cap to the North. You have american ports and production to live off of, no enemies. You can live on that ivory tower your entire life. And you can't afford to travel to the States because your dollar isn't worth anything.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Javalar
Oh my! My mistake! We should never insult our American masters! :mad:

I don't think she should have appologized. We are in a free country after all. It just wasn't the time or place.

BTW, F@@k you corplinx! We have our own ports (I just happen to be in a port town right now) and we buy your production.

I have been to Canada before. The people were very nice. The country was very nice. I _like_ Canada. However, I do realize that Canada's peace and high standard of living are partly due to the proximity of America.

Now, I am all for speaking my mind. And I don't mind when Canadians speak theirs. However, when they speak theirs then I love to shoot mine off in response. I wish some of these Canadian "leaders" would just show a bit more decorum and quiet respect sometimes. I have no problem with Canada's reluctance to support our Iraq plans.

[Soubrette]

The weirdest thing about Canada was going though American customs - I mean wtf?????

:confused:

Sou

[Peter Jenkins]

The peoples of the world do not all bow down to the Americans.

Hundreds of millions of people believe that (on some level) Bush is a moron. It's not a crime to say it, even in America.

What is rare, is for a politician to demonstrate such lack of tact,
This woman really needs to be looked at by a spin doctor.
Peter

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by Segnosaur
C
"D*mn Americans. . . . I hate those b*stards."

But don't worry. She appologized later, saying "My comments do not reflect my personal opinion of the American people."

Well, if it's not her personal opinion, what is it, her opinion as an MP?

I don't have a problem with her speaking her mind. It does rather seem that she's lumping us all together though.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin

Well, if it's not her personal opinion, what is it, her opinion as an MP?

Perhaps she intends to say that it's a fact, and not an opinion.

Does Canada have some crazy marriage law that makes all Americans illegitimate or something? :D

MattJ, Damn Bastard American, apparently

[Segnosaur]

Originally posted by corplinx

However, I do realize that Canada's peace and high standard of living are partly due to the proximity of America.
I have to agree with that. Successive governments have crippled our armed forces, to the point where our military is only good for things like shoveling snow.
Originally posted by corplinx
Now, I am all for speaking my mind. And I don't mind when Canadians speak theirs. However, when they speak theirs then I love to shoot mine off in response. I wish some of these Canadian "leaders" would just show a bit more decorum and quiet respect sometimes.
I agree. Our current government has been totally inept in foreign affairs. Its a wonder anyone ever bothers listenening to anything we have to say.

Rest assured, there are people here who are embarrased over our government's boneheaded actions.
Originally posted by corplinx
I have no problem with Canada's reluctance to support our Iraq plans.
Actually, when it comes to Iraq, we've been sitting on the fence so long, we will be changing the national symbol from the maple leaf to the hemmoroid.

[hgc]

Why does Canada need foreign affairs anyway? They can just use ours.

They do have nice pancakes though. Big too. I mean manhole cover size.

[Bentspoon]

Isn't that the northern vacation land?

As far as customs is concerned, I was delayed there for three and 1/2 hours while they searched my van for weapons. They nailed me. My sister-in-law had pepper spray in her purse. They took it away and defined it as a weapon. Never mind that nothing was found. When I got to my hotel, the local news was doing an expose on Americans love affair with guns. Those on this board know that I have no love affair with guns. The term "bastard Canadians" had entered my thoughts.

On the American side I was asked where I was born - go figure.

Actually I am just pleased to see that someone in Canada has an opinion on something besides guns.

Canada seems to be largely ineffectual and impotent in world affairs.

She is America's wife at home attending to our wonderful vacation land.

We bring home the bacon.

Thanks Canada

Bentspoon

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by corplinx
I would love to be canadian. Alaska to the left, greenland to the east, America to the south, a polar cap to the North. You have american ports and production to live off of, no enemies. You can live on that ivory tower your entire life.

lol, how true.

JK

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


lol, how true.

JK

I didn't mean for it to be a putdown though. Canada is truly a blessed nation. It has many geopolitical factors that make it "easy to be canada". It is a great country to visit and a great neighbor to have.

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by Bentspoon

We bring home the bacon.

Back bacon, eh?

[Javalar]

Originally posted by corplinx
Now, I am all for speaking my mind. And I don't mind when Canadians speak theirs. However, when they speak theirs then I love to shoot mine off in response. I wish some of these Canadian "leaders" would just show a bit more decorum and quiet respect sometimes. I have no problem with Canada's reluctance to support our Iraq plans. Agreed :cool:

I dont' see what all the fuss is about. Here in the United States, "bastard" is a term of affection. :D

[Mike B.]

It doesn't seem to be working. I recall a recent news story (sorry no link) about a poll that had US citizens rate their favorable or unfavorable views of nations. Not surprisingly the UK was first in popularity and Canada a close second...

I have been to Canada a number of times and enjoy it very much. I remember visiting the old forts that were built to defend against American invasions in the early 19th century. It was amusing how the tour guide sort of had a "tounge in cheek" recounting of the battles of the war of 1812 where the US got its butt kicked all over the place when it tried to invade Canada. Most of his audience was US citizens...He had to be delicate recounting how hundreds of Americans surrendered to a handful of Canadian soldiers...Issac Brock and all that...

(Maybe we should be quiet about the French...;)

I have been to Canada many, many times. Dozens. One of my favorite childhood memories is the World Expo in Montreal. 1968, I think.

I love Canada. Love, love, love it. Love the people. Love the air. Just plain love the place.

Even Newfoundland. :D

[Crossbow]

I really do not see what all the fuss about either.

I have heard worse from many Americans regarding George W, and heck, Bill Clinton was the most hated president since Nixion.

The only difference here is that the statements are coming from abroad instead of being homegrown.

By the way, I have been to Canada a few times myself and I have always liked the place. The last time was during 9/11 and the Canadian people were just great!

[corplinx]

One night I got laid over in Detroit on a first class ticket and NorthWorst tried to put me up in a Days Inn. Instead I hopped onto a cab and spent the night gambling, drinking canadian beer, and ogling the pre-21 girls at the Windsor casino.

Crossing from Detroit to Canada really gives you the impression of crossing a border since the differences are so stark between those two areas.

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by corplinx
I would love to be canadian. Alaska to the left, greenland to the east, America to the south, a polar cap to the North. You have american ports and production to live off of, no enemies. You can live on that ivory tower your entire life.

no enemies?? except for that country that has invaded us twice in the last 250 years you mean of course (thankfully we kicked their asses both times). with friends like you as they say...

P.S. I would like to assert that I do not believe ALL Americans are bastards; I'm pretty sure a majority of Canadians would agree with me (although this has never been brought to a formal vote).

[tedly]

Most Canadians deeply regret the tightening of the border, and the way it's interfering with our favourite vacation and shopping destination. Will our group of Scouts be allowed to hike across the border in Watterton-Glacier Park? I mean how many nations share a National Park?

A SOVEREIGN NATION
Ours is a sovereign nation
Bows to no foreign will
But whenever they cough in Washington
They spit on Parliament Hill
-Joe Wallace

[corplinx]

Originally posted by tedly
Most Canadians deeply regret the tightening of the border,

We regret it also. It was one of those tough choices. The only way I see it going back to being lax is if the USA and Canada can come up with a joint immigration and visa policy. That way we can have a totally open border. The standards for getting a visa to either country would be the same and good for both countries.

[rockyroad]

tedly - really gotta add some smiley emoticons or other indicators of sarcasim/humour. As Corplinx makes so sadly clear with his reply - subtle humour is usually lost on your average American (assuming his avator is not a self-portrait is perhaps a mistake).:rolleyes:

[Troll]

Ain't they like the second largest French speaking nation? I'm telling ya it's just the whole freaking French 'tude about the US. haha;)

[Walter Wayne]

Quelle Buffon.

[svero]

Originally posted by corplinx


I have been to Canada before. The people were very nice. The country was very nice. I _like_ Canada. However, I do realize that Canada's peace and high standard of living are partly due to the proximity of America.


I see... So then that must, by definition, apply to Mexico as well correct?

[voidx]

I don't think anyone can deny that there exists deep cultural influence back and forth between Canada and the US. It also cannot be denied that Canada has benefitted at times with its close neighbourly association with the US. Obviously the MP's comment was boneheaded and tactless, but then there's plenty of political bone-headedness to go around for all countries to get their share :).

There exists in Canada a higly annoying habit of Molsen Canadian induced national pride. Now I'm all for, "It's great to be Canadian", but it sometimes comes with a, "yah and not an arrogant American." Its like a high school competition thing. I live in Calgary Alberta, and there is a city rivalry with Edmonton Alberta, based upon hockey and football teams, and any other retarded level of comparison. There's no logic in it, just plenty of beer and sport fan fueled idiocy. Sometimes opinions of the US follow that same pattern. And yah, its a tad embarrassing. But then I'm sure you in the US have met Americans of similar intellectual "complexity".

[John Bryce]

Originally posted by Soubrette
The weirdest thing about Canada was going though American customs - I mean wtf?????

:confused:

Sou

Could you carify? I am unsure of what you mean. Thanks!

[John Bryce]

Originally posted by Bentspoon

As far as customs is concerned, I was delayed there for three and 1/2 hours while they searched my van for weapons. They nailed me. My sister-in-law had pepper spray in her purse. They took it away and defined it as a weapon. Never mind that nothing was found.

In Canada, pepper spray is classified as a prohibited weapon. That is why the pepper spray was confiscated.

[Diezel]

Originally posted by corplinx
One night I got laid over in Detroit on a first class ticket and NorthWorst tried to put me up in a Days Inn. Instead I hopped onto a cab and spent the night gambling, drinking canadian beer, and ogling the pre-21 girls at the Windsor casino.

Crossing from Detroit to Canada really gives you the impression of crossing a border since the differences are so stark between those two areas.

What year was this? I only ask because the difference is not there anymore. If anything, the difference is swapping - downtown Detroit is building up and Windsor is declining slightly, hurt economically by the tightening of the borders.

Plus, you wouldn't have to go across the border to go to the casino, because we have three very nice ones right here now, with nicer, permenant ones being built. And you can get all the Canadian beer you want here also (and please don't make me prove, once again, the beer in Canada and the US is the same ;).)

But we don't have the pre-21 girls, so you have me there. :D

Oh, and I have been to Canada... hell, more times than I can count. You can drink legally in Canada at 19, where do you think all the metro Detroit area teenagers are every weekend? People in this area forget Canada is a different country. I'm not kidding! I have heard many different people make the statement "I've never been to another country", I will ask "You have never been to Canada?", stunned looked "Oh yea!"

[corplinx]

Originally posted by svero


I see... So then that must, by definition, apply to Mexico as well correct?

Draw your own extrapolations based on Mexico's proximity to the major industrial states versus canada and the many other factors that show the big picture.

[Plutarck]

Canadian politicians are such refined, intelligent, nuanced thinkers, aren't they? :rolleyes:

Why, they sound so much like American politicians...

[rockyroad]

maybe a bit off topic; but thought I'd post this for fun (you could substitute "bast**d" for "moron" in the following if you'd like it to more relevant to this thread. Though clearly the existence of George the lesser's daddy is certainly not in doubt.

This is a bit from a very popular Canadian political satire TV show. Rick Mercer is sorta a young Andy Rooney on crack - very quick and funny and noted for his rapid fire "editorials" The following is much much funnier when you can see and hear him do it - but for what it's worth

P.S. - Corplinx - what follows is humour/satire - here's a smiley face to help make this clear :)


> Courtesy of Rick Mercer from This Hour Has 22 Minutes, CBC Television:
>
> On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the
> United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently
> and for that, I am truly sorry.
>
> I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron.
>
> He is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any
> consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the
> people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.
>
> I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than
> you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better
> than your own.
>
> I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our
> excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than
> yours.
>
> I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice
> you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.
>
> I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but,
> we Feel your Pain.
>
> I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against
> a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it
> took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but
> that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.
>
> And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly
> apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a
> thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this.
> We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.
>
> Thank you.
>

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by corplinx


Draw your own extrapolations based on Mexico's proximity to the major industrial states versus canada and the many other factors that show the big picture.

Do you mean to say that you believe industry has sprung up in the states close to Canada for the purpose of servicing the Canadian people much in the way maquiladoras just south of the Mexico-U.S. border produce for the United States?

[shuize]

Canadians can say whatever they want. It's not like they have a veto on the security counsel.

But despite Canada's lack of influence in world affairs, I believe the bonds of friendship between the United States and Canada will survive our stupid politicians.

The jabs thrown across our northern border (and back) do not worry me. I am confident that Canada is a true friend to the United States. Unlike some of our other so-called "allies."

Diezel's point about ignorant Americans forgetting Canada is a seperate country is exactly the attitude many Japanese have regarding Hawaii. When asked if they have ever visited a foreign country, I cannot begin to tell you how many Japanese I've spoken with will answer "no." Then, in the same breath, they will happily tell me about their trips to Hawaii.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Frank Newgent


Do you mean to say that you believe industry has sprung up in the states close to Canada for the purpose of servicing the Canadian people much in the way maquiladoras just south of the Mexico-U.S. border produce for the United States?

I only that meant early in the industrial years Canada had easy transportation of goods from american industry. All the products, none of the pollution. You had roads and ports on the great lakes for transferring goods.

You are right that in the modern era, america has come to depend on mexican made goods in some markets. However, I think that its influence on the quality of life isn't as great as the early industrial example I gave.

I could be full of sh*t though.

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by corplinx


I only that meant early in the industrial years Canada had easy transportation of goods from american industry. All the products, none of the pollution. You had roads and ports on the great lakes for transferring goods.

You are right that in the modern era, america has come to depend on mexican made goods in some markets. However, I think that its influence on the quality of life isn't as great as the early industrial example I gave.

I could be full of sh*t though.

Probably just ignorant, although that doesn't mean you can't be full of sh*t in addition. :p
Not sure what you mean by the "industrial years". Certainly before the U.S. Civil War the trade between Canada and U.S. was pretty minimal - both were not big industrial societies - Canada especially was pretty much agriculturally based and its biggest trading partner was the mother country (Britain). Trade was conducted through Canadian ports and in the later 1800's using Canadian rail systems, which were built before or at the same time as U.S. ones - I know of no evidence that Canada was ever in any major way reliant on U.S. transportation to move our goods.

In the late 1800's and early 1900's as the U.S. was ramping up an industrial base an interdependence did development, but then as now most of the trade was in the form of Canada providing crucial raw materials to the U.S. for money. Canada has long had it's own steelmaking and other heavy industries, more than enough for its own needs (we export these items - yes even to the U.S.)

Canada remains the U.S.'s largest trading partner; but again it is a bit one-sided, with us exporting lumber, oil, gas etc in large quantities to the U.S., mostly for just plain money. Yes we buy some U.S. goods, but nothing we couldn't get from other world suppliers if need be (cars, electronics, etc. - actually more and more these are from Asia anyway). Of course if the trade taps were turned off between the two countries, we would suffer a bit (while the U.S. frooze in the dark as they say); we would miss the lame situation comedies we import from your TV stations for example (ok, not much really, but it's something - I'd miss Buffy a lot!).