Tim Tebow- calls for group prayer, gets rejected

[Drewbot]

SCENE: WONDERLIC TEST AT NFL COMBINE

Tebow apparently tried to get everyone in on a prayer after receiving instructions on how to take the Wonderlic test

Response from another player:
Shut the **** upEdited, breach of rule 10; please do not curse in your posts or mask such words in an attempt to avoid the auto-censor. This includes quoted material....

How many times can a religious nut bug you about Jeebus before you snap?

Do you think Tebow prayed to Jeebus in order to save the foul-mouthed heathen?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/03/tim_tebows_pre-wonderlic_praye.html

PS. Tebow scored a 22, which is 2 under the average for Quarterbacks. So his Sky-daddy did not help him too much.

[Zep]

...that's a dialect of English, right?

[aggle-rithm]

SCENE: WONDERLIC TEST AT NFL COMBINE



Response from another player:


How many times can a religious nut bug you about Jeebus before you snap?

Do you think Tebow prayed to Jeebus in order to save the foul-mouthed heathen?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/03/tim_tebows_pre-wonderlic_praye.html

PS. Tebow scored a 22, which is 2 under the average for Quarterbacks. So his Sky-daddy did not help him too much.

You may as well pray for a good Wunderlic score. It would do about as much good as anything else.

[aggle-rithm]

How many times can a religious nut bug you about Jeebus before you snap?

Do you think Tebow prayed to Jeebus in order to save the foul-mouthed heathen?


I think the foul-mouthed heathen was out of line. A simple "no thanks, Tim" would have sufficed.

[zooterkin]

...that's a dialect of English, right?

Could be; I recognise some of the words. Perhaps it's in code?

[pgwenthold]

I think the foul-mouthed heathen was out of line. A simple "no thanks, Tim" would have sufficed.

Why?

He had no business grandstanding like that, and he got slapped down as a result. You don't think other players resent his attitude that he is God's gift to football (literally)?

Why should his showing off be accepted? Just because it is religion?

Any other player makes a big deal to say "Look at me!!!!!!" and they are also going told to shut the f up, too.

[CurtC]

Could be; I recognise some of the words. Perhaps it's in code?

I think it's the same secret code that is used in the sports page of newspapers. I've tried reading the articles - I struggle to get through a paragraph or two understanding what they're saying, and it's such a struggle that by the time I hit the end of a paragraph I no longer can remember what was at the beginning.

[Scott Haley]

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[Vic Vega]

The PERFECT response. I wish I knew who it was who said it. I'd send him fan mail.

[Accidental Martyr]

Why?

He had no business grandstanding like that, and he got slapped down as a result. You don't think other players resent his attitude that he is God's gift to football (literally)?

Why should his showing off be accepted? Just because it is religion?

Any other player makes a big deal to say "Look at me!!!!!!" and they are also going told to shut the f up, too.

Let me preface this by saying that I'm an Alabama grad, so I don't like Florida or Tim Tebow just on general principle. ;)
I heard this on the radio yesterday and my reaction was "Finally, someone told this guy to shut the f--- up!" I am so sick of hearing his xtian BS in every interview, after every game etc. If he were spouting some other religion's nonsense reactions would be totally different. If he praised Allah, or whatever else, after games he would get death threats. But since it's all about jebus, he's a "hero" to millions. Oh, and one other thing.....Roll Tide!;)
http://bustersports.com/blog/buster-blog/2009/12/10/tebow-cried-for-our-sins-t-shirt-the-new-christmas-rage/

[Accidental Martyr]

Read the comments on this page. Funny stuff. ;)
http://jacksonville.com/news/columnists/mark_woods/2009-12-09/story/column_tim_tebow_other_sports_greats_show_us_its_o k_to_c?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JacksonvillecomUfFootball+(Ja cksonville.com%3A+UF+Sports)

[Dave Rogers]

You may as well pray for a good Wunderlic score. It would do about as much good as anything else.

I just Googled it. Offensive linemen are brighter than quarterbacks? If that's true, why are they offensive linemen?

Dave

[Drewbot]

Read the comments on this page. Funny stuff. ;)
http://jacksonville.com/news/columnists/mark_woods/2009-12-09/story/column_tim_tebow_other_sports_greats_show_us_its_o k_to_c?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JacksonvillecomUfFootball+(Ja cksonville.com%3A+UF+Sports)

I like the guy who says Jeebus wouldn't make a good quarterback.
Jesus wouldn't start at QB for most SEC teams either. Too skinny, with no bubble and his lateral movement in sandals is clearly suspect. Arm strength is another concern.

Personally I picture Jeebus as a kicker.

[aggle-rithm]

Why?

He had no business grandstanding like that, and he got slapped down as a result.

I don't interpret it as grandstanding. He just comes from a culture where people spontaneously break out into prayer. He's a natural leader, so he took the initiative...and badly misjudged the reaction he would get.

Just a little culture shock. He'll learn to deal with it.

[aggle-rithm]

I just Googled it. Offensive linemen are brighter than quarterbacks? If that's true, why are they offensive linemen?

Dave

I worked for an employer who gave Wunderlic tests to prospective employees. A few really good (and badly needed) prospects were denied because they didn't score high enough. And this was for unskilled labor.

As far as I could tell, there was little or no correlation between score and subsequent job performance.

[Accidental Martyr]

I like the guy who says Jeebus wouldn't make a good quarterback.


Personally I picture Jeebus as a kicker.

Barefoot kicker.

[CurtC]

I worked for an employer who gave Wunderlic tests to prospective employees.

I had assumed, after reading the OP, that this "Wunderlic" test is something given to prospective professional football quarterbacks. Was I wrong in that assumption, or were you an NFL player?

[pgwenthold]

I don't interpret it as grandstanding. He just comes from a culture where people spontaneously break out into prayer.

Which, to people from other cultures, is grandstanding.

Of course, he didn't want them to "spontaneously" break into prayer. He wanted an organized group activity. Kind of like praying before a meal. Which is also not spontaneous (no one says, "Hey, I got a crazy idea - let's PRAY before we eat!").

[steve s]

Apparently Tebow's bible is missing the page where Jesus says ""Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven." (Matthew 6:1) As well as "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men."

Steve S

[steve s]

I had assumed, after reading the OP, that this "Wunderlic" test is something given to prospective professional football quarterbacks. Was I wrong in that assumption, or were you an NFL player?

From wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_Test)...

The Wonderlic Personnel Test is a twelve-minute, fifty-question test used to assess the aptitude of prospective employees for learning and problem-solving in a wide range of occupations.

Steve S

[TraneWreck]

The Wunderlich is hilarious. Here are some sample questions:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

They're all comically simple, but some of them are so stupidly easy that I was second guessing myself. I thought I missed something.

[Chris Hegarty]

I think this is a lovely occurrence. Tebow just rubs me the wrong way, and we know from his past exploits that he's all about grandstanding.

[Drewbot]

If I'm working on a big sale, or putting together a complicated contract, or, in this case, getting ready for a test that could mean hundreds of thousands of dollars, the last thing I want to happen is get a phone call about 'who handles your I.T.?' or 'Are you planning on moving in the next year?', and I can imagine the dude didn't want to hear; "Lets all gather 'round and pray to Jeebus' right before the big test. I can totally relate to his reaction.

[aggle-rithm]

I had assumed, after reading the OP, that this "Wunderlic" test is something given to prospective professional football quarterbacks. Was I wrong in that assumption, or were you an NFL player?

Apparently a number of employers use it to screen applicants. I've only worked for one that used it, though.

[aggle-rithm]

The Wunderlich is hilarious. Here are some sample questions:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

They're all comically simple, but some of them are so stupidly easy that I was second guessing myself. I thought I missed something.

That's the problem with the test...you keep second-guessing yourself, thinking "This is too obvious. What answer are they LOOKING for?"

Is it a test of intelligence, or a test to see how you react in certain situations?

[aggle-rithm]

That's the problem with the test...you keep second-guessing yourself, thinking "This is too obvious. What answer are they LOOKING for?"

Is it a test of intelligence, or a test to see how you react in certain situations?

This is an example of what I'm talking about:

4. How many of the five pairs of items listed below are exact duplicates?
Nieman, K.M. Neiman, K.M.
Thomas, G.K. Thomas, C.K.
Hoff, J.P. Hoff, J.P.
Pino, L.R. Pina, L.R.
Warner, T.S. Wanner, T.S.



Attention to detail is very good in some contexts. In others, it's better to be able to discern patterns than to focus too much on detail. I would think the quarterback position would fall into the latter category.

So, is a correct answer good or bad?

[paiute]

The Wunderlich is hilarious. Here are some sample questions:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

They're all comically simple, but some of them are so stupidly easy that I was second guessing myself. I thought I missed something.

Even though the test is used in other fileds, it seems to me that in this case these questions mostly are checking to see if the player has postconcussive syndrome.

Maybe in the general public it checks for heavy weed smoking.

[paiute]

This is an example of what I'm talking about:

4. How many of the five pairs of items listed below are exact duplicates?
Nieman, K.M. Neiman, K.M.
Thomas, G.K. Thomas, C.K.
Hoff, J.P. Hoff, J.P.
Pino, L.R. Pina, L.R.
Warner, T.S. Wanner, T.S.


Wait - number of pairs or number of items that are in pairs?

[Tricky]

I don't interpret it as grandstanding. He just comes from a culture where people spontaneously break out into prayer. He's a natural leader, so he took the initiative...and badly misjudged the reaction he would get.
Yeah, it always worked in college.

I just find it annoying when people like Tebow and my brother use "Jesus" and "Praise God" as punctuation.

But funny, I missed the prayer he said after the Alabama game. Did it go something like, "Thank you Jesus for allowing me to be injured in the first quarter of the biggest game of the year and kicking me and my team out of a chance for a National Championship."

Amen.

[CurtC]

The past couple of months I've been watching UFC fighting on TV (yes, I know, but it's like I'm addicted to the rush of testosterone or something). What's amazing is how many of these guys, after winning a fight, sometimes by beating their opponent to a bloody pulp, will say something like "I just want to give the glory to Jesus." The number of Christian tattoos is mind-blowing as well.

[Drewbot]

This is an example of what I'm talking about:


Attention to detail is very good in some contexts. In others, it's better to be able to discern patterns than to focus too much on detail. I would think the quarterback position would fall into the latter category.

So, is a correct answer good or bad?

The 'differing pairs' example could be testing a QB to see if he recognizes small differences.

For example; If a Defense is playing a 4-3, perhaps a small change, perhaps the Safety lines up even with the right tackle, instead of the right guard, indicates a Safety Blitz, and would be a tip to go to the Hot-Read.

Also- I am frikking addicted to UFC as well. I enjoy watching the BJ Penn fights, and the Royce Gracie fights, But will watch everyone with interest.

[steve s]

The past couple of months I've been watching UFC fighting on TV (yes, I know, but it's like I'm addicted to the rush of testosterone or something). What's amazing is how many of these guys, after winning a fight, sometimes by beating their opponent to a bloody pulp, will say something like "I just want to give the glory to Jesus." The number of Christian tattoos is mind-blowing as well.

ABC's Nightline just did a show about Xtreme Ministries.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/FaithMatters/warriors-christ-fight-gods/story?id=10180581

Steve S

[JoeB]

I just Googled it. Offensive linemen are brighter than quarterbacks? If that's true, why are they offensive linemen?

The general rule is that the closer to the ball you line up, the smarter you have to be. WRs, RBs and CBs are generally rockheads (scores in the 10-15 range don't turn any heads). O-linemen have to understand pretty complex blocking assignments (and in the case of the center call out the right one based off the look the D gives). QBs have to really have absorbed the playbook, but beyond that it's more about being quick processing than being especially bright.

[zooterkin]

Wonderlic

Wunderlic

Wunderlich

I guess spelling isn't part of the test...

[Accidental Martyr]

Yeah, it always worked in college.

I just find it annoying when people like Tebow and my brother use "Jesus" and "Praise God" as punctuation.

But funny, I missed the prayer he said after the Alabama game. Did it go something like, "Thank you Jesus for allowing me to be injured in the first quarter of the biggest game of the year and kicking me and my team out of a chance for a National Championship."

Amen.

Tebow was not injured in the SEC championship game against Alabama. Colt McCoy was injured in the first quarter of the National Championshiop game.
Roll Tide.

[Tricky]

Tebow was not injured in the SEC championship game against Alabama. Colt McCoy was injured in the first quarter of the National Championshiop game.
Roll Tide.
Oh, right. Already losing my memory. Tebow was simply beaten and beaten badly. And God allowed it. Must mean that God was sick of his act too.

[devnull]

I worked for an employer who gave Wunderlic tests to prospective employees. A few really good (and badly needed) prospects were denied because they didn't score high enough. And this was for unskilled labor.

As far as I could tell, there was little or no correlation between score and subsequent job performance.

just out of interest, does it have questions about dropping the price of an item X%, and then raising the price X% again?

A friend was proudly proclaiming that she'd seen their "trick question", because if you take 10% off and then put 10% on you of course get back to the original price......

I didn't have the heart to tell her.

[devnull]

The Wunderlich is hilarious. Here are some sample questions:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

They're all comically simple, but some of them are so stupidly easy that I was second guessing myself. I thought I missed something.

wow, I got 100%..... should I be president or something?

[dropzone]

Could be; I recognise some of the words. Perhaps it's in code?It's in footballese. I thought you Brits played some dialect of football. :boggled:

[CurtC]

Tebow was not injured in the SEC championship game against Alabama. Colt McCoy was injured in the first quarter of the National Championshiop game.

And Colt McCoy is another college athlete who wears his Christianity on his sleeve:

http://iamsecond.com/#/seconds/Colt_McCoy/

[CurtC]

ABC's Nightline just did a show about Xtreme Ministries.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/FaithMatters/warriors-christ-fight-gods/story?id=10180581

From that article:

"'David was a simple guy who was a shepherd who had faith in Jesus that he would protect him,' pastor Jordan Fulton says."

So there you go. According to pastor Fulton, David, the famous King David of the Old Testament, had faith in Jesus.

Something tells me these guys ain't exactly Bible scholars.

[Accidental Martyr]

And Colt McCoy is another college athlete who wears his Christianity on his sleeve:

http://iamsecond.com/#/seconds/Colt_McCoy/

I guess god didn't want either of them to beat Alabama.