How To Convince An American TV Watcher of Brainwashing

[Especially]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran

[Drudgewire]

This is a conspiracy against globe manufacturers and Atlas publishers?

CURSE YOU JERSEY SHORE FOR DESTROYING RAND MCNALLY!! http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/fist4su.gif

[dtugg]

I am an American and I watch TV. I can easily locate all five on a map (one without the labels).

How exactly is that supposed to convince me of brainwashing?

[Especially]

Then, Sir, you are a rare individual. Your dosage of corporate news must be small. You have survived the stupendous ignorance of the mass media and its consumers.

Congratulations !

[Pure Argent]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran

Sucking at geography doesn't equal being brainwashed.

Epic non sequitur.

[Dave Rogers]

Iraq's the one on the left, isn't it? The rest are pretty obvious.

Again, projection. Just because Especially is embarrassingly ignorant of jurisprudence, that doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees with him/her is embarrassingly ignorant of geography.

And, one could ask, why is one who joined the forums to spread the message of the impact FMOTL nuttery is making on the UK so hung up on Americans and their level of knowledge?

Dave

[Drudgewire]

Then, Sir, you are a rare individual. Your dosage of corporate news must be small. You have survived the stupendous ignorance of the mass media and its consumers.

Congratulations !


Yes, because Katie Couric tries to convince us Vietnam is right below France. :rolleyes:

I can identify those countries on an unlabeled map because I took World Geography in high school, not because the tinfoil protects me whenever I watch CNN (although I do admit viewing Nancy Grace will make anyone dumber).

[commandlinegamer]

Yes, because Katie Couric tries to convince us Vietnam is right below France. :rolleyes:

Yeah, but to give her the benefit of the doubt, she could just be confused, as Vietnam was once part of the colony French Indochina.

[Toke]

Yeah, but to give her the benefit of the doubt, she could just be confused, as Vietnam was once part of the colony French Indochina.

That the Vietnam war was brought used from the French does not quite excuse the geographical confusion.

I have heard similar amusing stories about Americans and geographical knowledge before. I don't see where TV comes into it.

[alfaniner]

I can never find Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia...

[Drudgewire]

I still can't find Burma and Czechoslovakia!


Try looking under the sofa cushions.

[Dave Rogers]

"BURMA!"

"Why did you say Burma?"

"I panicked."

Dave

[Toke]

I can never find Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia...
Just look a bit below DDR. :D

[Foolmewunz]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran


Say, this is a really dumb thread. What can you point out ON an atlas? The title? You probably meant "in", right? (You could point to things ON a map or ON a globe, but when referring to an atlas, you would use "in". )

And would you really have to buy one? All us dum amurrican tv watchers already own at least one.

And just what is this doing in the CT section? What is the conspiracy?

[MG1962]

Strange I went to one of the corporate news sites - the one apparently brainwashing me, and found this

http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=map+of+iraq&primaryType=mixed&x=33&y=9

over 500 links to maps of just Iraq. Sounds like someone at the NWO has dropped the ball. I have sent a memo, and the link should disapear momentarily.

Now back to your scheduled broadcasts

[Especially]

Great. Why not distribute it widely ? To the tax payers of the USA. Then then can at least know the actual locations of the nations they have wrecked over the last half century with their hundreds of wars, invasions, occupations and bombings.

I can think of no greater service you could achieve.

[HawksFan]

You know, I opened my Atlas and failed to find the point of this thread. I must be brainwashed.

[Especially]

Maybe you were looking in the wrong place ?


You know, I opened my Atlas and failed to find the point of this thread. I must be brainwashed.

[Myriad]

Well I went and asked Atlas personally, and he said he was too busy holding the sky up to worry about where the borders are or what the countries are named from century to century. It turns out he'd never even heard of North America. So it's not just Americans who are ignorant of geography. It's ancient Greek legendary beings too!

Respectfully,
Myriad

[MG1962]

Well I went and asked Atlas personally, and he said he was too busy holding the sky up to worry about where the borders are or what the countries are named from century to century. It turns out he'd never even heard of North America. So it's not just Americans who are ignorant of geography. It's ancient Greek legendary beings too!

Respectfully,
Myriad

How is Atlas going - when I spoke to him a couple of weeks ago one of the kids had chicken pox and have quiet a tough time of it

I do need to send him an email with my new number sometime

[Pure Argent]

Great. Why not distribute it widely ? To the tax payers of the USA. Then then can at least know the actual locations of the nations they have wrecked over the last half century with their hundreds of wars, invasions, occupations and bombings.

I can think of no greater service you could achieve.

It's.

On.

The.

Internet.

How much more "openly distributed" can you get?

[ElMondoHummus]

Great. Why not distribute it widely ? To the tax payers of the USA. Then then can at least know the actual locations of the nations they have wrecked over the last half century with their hundreds of wars, invasions, occupations and bombings.

I can think of no greater service you could achieve.

Still missing the link between bad geographic knowledge and brainwashing here. Mind elaborating?

[HawksFan]

Mind elaborating?

Careful, ElMondo, going deeper into his thinking may not be a place you want to go. :covereyes

[ElMondoHummus]

Sure.

Try this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

Quit refering me to videos to increase your hit count and explain it.

[dudalb]

Say, this is a really dumb thread. ?

Look at who started it.

[dudalb]

Great. Why not distribute it widely ? To the tax payers of the USA. Then then can at least know the actual locations of the nations they have wrecked over the last half century with their hundreds of wars, invasions, occupations and bombings.

I can think of no greater service you could achieve.


Last time I looked, North Korea invaded South Korea and started the Korean War.

[bynmdsue]

Last time I looked, North Korea invaded South Korea and started the Korean War.

that's what they want you to think...

[cwalner]

Well I went and asked Atlas personally, and he said he was too busy holding the sky up to worry about where the borders are or what the countries are named from century to century. It turns out he'd never even heard of North America. So it's not just Americans who are ignorant of geography. It's ancient Greek legendary beings too!

Respectfully,
Myriad

And when you showed him this thread, Atlas shrugged.

[dudalb]

Anybody else note that the OP arguments in this and other threads consist almost entirely of links to You Tube?
And now he accuses Television of brainwashing people?

:i:

[Captain.Sassy]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran


ho

Lee

SCHMIDT


I just looked in an atlas.


NONE OF THESE COUNTRIES EXIST!!!!

Where 'NORTH' Korea was SUPPOSED to be there was just something called 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea'... Where the Nightly Snews had told me I'd find Iraq and Iran, all I found were TWO OTHER REPUBLICS.

WHO HAVE WE BEEN FIGHTING ALL THIS TIME!?!?!

[Ohnoes]

What if I made an A in my world geography class? I mean...I know this may come as a shock, but many people retain knowledge of what they learn in high school.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Chasers already did this:

DJ3RrqBqk14

Make sure you get to 4:00 on for the map part.

[Marquis de Carabas]

What's so goddamned special about being able to point to something on a map, anyway? Welcome to the internet age. People don't need to carry information around in their heads for which they have little to no daily use.

I can nail 4 out of the 5 of those, but I'll be honest: I'd get in the vicinity of Vietnam, but cannot with 100% confidence claim I'd point right to it. And I don't care. Should a situation arise in which I somehow need to know the exact location of Vietnam, there's an app for that.

[Captain.Sassy]

What's so goddamned special about being able to point to something on a map, anyway? Welcome to the internet age. People don't need to carry information around in their heads for which they have little to no daily use.

I can nail 4 out of the 5 of those, but I'll be honest: I'd get in the vicinity of Vietnam, but cannot with 100% confidence claim I'd point right to it.

It's the scoopy looking one on the edge.

[Ziggurat]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran

What, you seriously think geographic ignorance is peculiar to the US? Of course not. You'll find geographically ignorant people all over the world.

But don't try doing this in North Korea, they won't let you.

Oh, and your youtube link about Charlotte Iserbyt? It's some lady talking about how she and others "conned" (her words) predominantly Christian communities into accepting "educational" programs which addressed particular social issues. Traditional educational content (like geography) had nothing to do with what she was saying, or (as far as I can tell) what she actually did. Unless she's someone you're blaming for poor educational standards, I don't see the relevance of that link.

[David Wong]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran

I'm going to let you in on a secret:

THE ATLAS WILL HAVE THE FREAKING NAMES OF THE COUNTRIES ON THE COUNTRIES. If you have an atlas in your hand, your lack of geographical knowledge problem is solved. It will show you where the countries are. That's what it's for.

And - get this! - if you ever want to travel to one of those countries, the guy who flies the plane knows how to get there. He doesn't make you give him directions.

Therefore, most Americans don't know how to point out all of the world's countries on an unlabeled map because that is a next to useless skill. If your atlas is so terrible that it doesn't have the country labels, spring for one of the nicer ones that do. It's money well spent!

[cwalner]

Oh, and your youtube link about Charlotte Iserbyt? It's some lady talking about how she and others "conned" (her words) predominantly Christian communities into accepting "educational" programs which addressed particular social issues. Traditional educational content (like geography) had nothing to do with what she was saying, or (as far as I can tell) what she actually did. Unless she's someone you're blaming for poor educational standards, I don't see the relevance of that link.

You actually watched the link?. You are a braver man than I

[Ziggurat]

If your atlas is so terrible that it doesn't have the country labels, spring for one of the nicer ones that do. It's money well spent!

For the win!

[Toke]

Chasers already did this:

DJ3RrqBqk14

Make sure you get to 4:00 on for the map part.

This on was worth downloading.:D
I can't tell how many less ignorant people were cut out, but still great entertainment.

[technoextreme]

1. Buy an atlas of the world

2. Ask an American TV watcher to show on the atlas the locations of -

a. Iraq
b. Afghanistan
c. Vietnam
d. North Korea
e. Iran
Bah... Iran is next to Iraq. Afganistan is next to Pakistan which is next to India. North Korea is next to South Korea and China which is a boat ride away from Japan.

[CORed]

Just look a bit below DDR. :D

and to the west of USSR. Now, can somebody just show me where the Ottoman Empire is located?

[Toke]

and to the west of USSR. Now, can somebody just show me where the Ottoman Empire is located?
I am pretty sure that emperor Haile Selassie I lived somewhere north of Somalia.

[The Fallen Serpent]

and to the west of USSR. Now, can somebody just show me where the Ottoman Empire is located?

In a history book. Or an outdated atlas. Otherwise I could show you were its successor state is in a modern atlas, or where the Empire was. I suspsect many of my fellow Americans would wonder what a rug has to do with an atlas when such a question is asked. Such knowledge just is not very pertinent in our lives.

[Chris Hegarty]

and to the west of USSR. Now, can somebody just show me where the Ottoman Empire is located?

I think it's where the Byzantine Empire used to be, but they underwent a name change because they were embarrassed to have the same name as those things upon which I rest my feet while watching TV.

Speaking of which, has anyone seen Prussia anywhere? Dam'it, but I can't find the place anywhere.

[MG1962]

I think it's where the Byzantine Empire used to be, but they underwent a name change because they were embarrassed to have the same name as those things upon which I rest my feet while watching TV.

Since when was the Ottoman empire called poof?

[Ziggurat]

I suspsect many of my fellow Americans would wonder what a rug has to do with an atlas

You've got your furniture (http://www.amazon.com/Ottomans-Living-Room-Furniture-D%C3%A9cor/b?ie=UTF8&node=3733611) confused. :o

[The Fallen Serpent]

You've got your furniture (http://www.amazon.com/Ottomans-Living-Room-Furniture-D%C3%A9cor/b?ie=UTF8&node=3733611) confused. :o

I am partly confused. I think you are correct most people think of the little furniture piece, the name of which usually eludes me. Ottoman rug refers to a variety of pattern styles based out of practices in the Anatolia region and made popular in the west during the Ottoman period of Transylvania. Basically, Oriental rugs made in the Ottoman Empire. When I was a child I spent many hours watching TV sprawled out on my grandma's reproduction of an Ottoman rug.

[patchbunny]

How is Atlas going - when I spoke to him a couple of weeks ago one of the kids had chicken pox and have quiet a tough time of it

I bumped into him on my way to the Mulligan bank. He mentioned something about getting ready to shrug. Don't know what he meant by that.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

THE ATLAS WILL HAVE THE FREAKING NAMES OF THE COUNTRIES ON THE COUNTRIES. If you have an atlas in your hand, your lack of geographical knowledge problem is solved.

He doesn't even need that (assuming he's at a computer with internet access).

http://maps.google.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (just type "Iraq", "Iran" or whatever in the little box on the left hand side and hit "Enter".)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/ (Yes, I know, it's the CIA. While they allegedly conspire to invade smaller countries at costs of hundreds of billions of dollars for tens of billions dollars worth of oil, it doesn't aid the conspiracy at all to cover up the existence of said countries)

[Toke]

Looks like we are getting into the problem of rote learning vs. ability to search for information.
The standard answer tend to be that you need some basic knowledge to know where to start looking for information. I say that all should have basic knowledge of geography, not just google earth.

[dudalb]

I'm going to let you in on a secret:

THE ATLAS WILL HAVE THE FREAKING NAMES OF THE COUNTRIES ON THE COUNTRIES. If you have an atlas in your hand, your lack of geographical knowledge problem is solved. It will show you where the countries are. That's what it's for.

And - get this! - if you ever want to travel to one of those countries, the guy who flies the plane knows how to get there. He doesn't make you give him directions.

Therefore, most Americans don't know how to point out all of the world's countries on an unlabeled map because that is a next to useless skill. If your atlas is so terrible that it doesn't have the country labels, spring for one of the nicer ones that do. It's money well spent!


Agreed, but you have to be careful or it looks as if you are defending ignorance.
Really, there are something you should know without having to look it up.

[The Fallen Serpent]

Looks like we are getting into the problem of rote learning vs. ability to search for information.
The standard answer tend to be that you need some basic knowledge to know where to start looking for information. I say that all should have basic knowledge of geography, not just google earth.

Which is a good point. Basic knowledge is a positive but unless such knowledge is useful to an individual I would not fault them for failing to remember specifics. If an American does not know what Afghanistan or Iraq is, they are ignorant and quite likely intentionally so. Vietnam is much less a concern these days to the American public. Iran and North Korea are current issues but are not yet a direct issue for those who are not politically or militarily inclined.

I imagine most people are more inclined to learn the locations of other countries if they actually travel or do business internationally. An American can find Canada and Mexico on a map. They are our major neighbors. We deal with their citizens and the business relations on a regular basis. Members of the military are more likely to be aware of current hot spot nations as those are the places they will possibly be risking their lives within. When I worked for a Korean company most of the other workers knew passing knowledge about South and North Korea. Those who did not easily offended and either learned to keep quiet, learn more accurate knowledge, or not last. Complaining about "those :rule10ing communists that run the company" is not a good way to endear yourself to management.

Americans can be quite ignorant. As can most people in the world. We can still learn if we are convinced the knowledge is useful. Telling Americans they are more ignorant because of their Ameri-centric mentalties will not win any battles in education. Even if it is sometimes true.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Looks like we are getting into the problem of rote learning vs. ability to search for information.
The standard answer tend to be that you need some basic knowledge to know where to start looking for information. I say that all should have basic knowledge of geography, not just google earth.
Obviously some basic knowledge is needed to get you off the ground. But "Vietnam is in east Asia" or "Iraq is in the Middle East" is good enough basic knowledge to get you started. Being able to locate them exactly on a map cold is a skill few people require.

[Toke]

Obviously some basic knowledge is needed to get you off the ground. But "Vietnam is in east Asia" or "Iraq is in the Middle East" is good enough basic knowledge to get you started. Being able to locate them exactly on a map cold is a skill few people require.

I would tend to agree with you here, there could be long discussions of what is basic knowledge and not.
Did you watch thakasa buddas video?
I am sure we can agree that the people who made it into the final cut are below basic level. :D

[alfaniner]

"I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so, because, is that some people out there, in our nation, don't have maps, and I believe that our education, such as South Africa, and the Iraq, everywhere like, such as, and I believe that they should, our education over here, in the US should help the US, or um should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children."

[Toke]

"I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so, because, is that some people out there, in our nation, don't have maps, and I believe that our education, such as South Africa, and the Iraq, everywhere like, such as, and I believe that they should, our education over here, in the US should help the US, or um should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children."


Cute. :D

[Toke]

Americans can be quite ignorant. As can most people in the world. We can still learn if we are convinced the knowledge is useful. Telling Americans they are more ignorant because of their Ameri-centric mentalties will not win any battles in education. Even if it is sometimes true.
I do not think Americans are dumber than others, but I can't help finding the ignorance sometimes displayed both amusing and scary.

[The Fallen Serpent]

I do not think Americans are dumber than others, but I can't help finding the ignorance sometimes displayed both amusing and scary.

Same here. I know that videos like the one above and things like Jay Walks (a Jay Leno skit of little originality) are created with heavy selection bias, but they are both hilarious and frightening.

[Toke]

Actually the really scary one is alfaniner's quote above, it is almost too scary to be funny.
At least when one stop and think about what power is wielded by ignoramuses.

[The Fallen Serpent]

Actually the really scary one is alfaniner's quote above, it is almost too scary to be funny.
At least when one stop and think about what power is wielded by ignoramuses.

The quote in question was quite heavily mocked in America. I do not think it even accurately represents the subculture that produced it. Beauty pageant contestants can usually put together an eloquent comment. Not always coherent or logically consistent but eloquent.

[Foolmewunz]

Actually the really scary one is alfaniner's quote above, it is almost too scary to be funny.
At least when one stop and think about what power is wielded by ignoramuses.

Beauty Queen contestants wield power? This is far overplayed. I work with a bunch of Danes and Germans and Swiss, and by golly most of them know the map of Europe real well. If you ask them to find the Straits of Juan de Fuca, though, they'll linger around Gibraltar and/or Patagonia for quite some time before heading to the index like I would if someone asked me to locate Kreuzlingen. The Americans I work with are just about as good/bad... And we're in logistics, sea freight to be specific, so we ought to be about as well-informed as anyone.

In short, if Europeans need the knowledge, they attain it. Ditto the Americans and Canadians. Next Miss Universe contest let''s ask Miss Russia, Miss Denmark, and Miss Israel to point out the Dardanelles and Mollucan Strait. Wanna bet they'll fare no better than Miss North Podunkville did?

[Toke]

Sorry about that, I did not recognise the quote and took it for either Bush or Palin.

[The Fallen Serpent]

Sorry about that, I did not recognise the quote and took it for either Bush or Palin.

Maybe if you combined the two. Palin is eloquent but lacks internal logic, Bush is a rambler but at least generally sticks to his convictions. The quote is from a beauty pageant contestant. Who I believe lost. I suspected you didn't recognize the source. I doubt it received much attention outside of North American gossip entertainment.

[Foolmewunz]

Sorry about that, I did not recognise the quote and took it for either Bush or Palin.

S'okay. I just used it as a hook to go into my usual counter-rant about geography knowledge.

[JimBenArm]

and to the west of USSR. Now, can somebody just show me where the Ottoman Empire is located?

Next to the Sofa Empire.

[Safe-Keeper]

Yes, US residents are pretty abysmal at world geography and history.
No, that doesn't prove whatever "brainwashing" the OP is on about.

What is it about conspiracy theorists and red herrings, anyway?

Great. Why not distribute it widely ? To the tax payers of the USA. Then then can at least know the actual locations of the nations they have wrecked over the last half century with their hundreds of wars, invasions, occupations and bombings. A very good question. The Norwegian school system gives you an atlas and a detailed cookbook with lots of additional info such as proper nutrition. Both are of huge practical use.

Next to the Sofa Empire. It's an enclave of the Democratic People's Republic of Ikea.

[MG1962]

I bumped into him on my way to the Mulligan bank. He mentioned something about getting ready to shrug. Don't know what he meant by that.

Then I Rand...Rand so far away

[TragicMonkey]

So, is "wrecking nations" only bad if it's in the last "half century", and anything before that is okay? I guess there's a statute of limitations? Or are we pretending that the US is the only aggressive nation to ever exist, and all the other ones are and always have been pure and noble and sinless?

And geography comes automatically when you learn the history of a place, you don't need to make a special effort, although looking at maps is always fun.

[Foolmewunz]

And geography comes automatically when you learn the history of a place, you don't need to make a special effort, although looking at maps is always fun.


Well, history is okay, if you must. But we here at NWO Industries always prefer, if possible, to learn our geography by mapping the progress of our jack-booted thugs as they make their way through the countryside, pillaging and raping as they go.

[Helen]

"BURMA!"

"Why did you say Burma?"

"I panicked."

Dave

I have nothing whatsoever to contribute to this interesting discussion, I just wanted to quote this because it's from my favourite Monty Python sketch.

Sorry, I'll keep quiet now. We're good at knowing when to do that, here in the Democratic People's Republic of Ikea.

[Richard Masters]

Actually the really scary one is alfaniner's quote above, it is almost too scary to be funny.
At least when one stop and think about what power is wielded by ignoramuses.

I disagree. U.S. American is a term used to acknowledge that the United States is not the only country in America.

It's ironic when everybody bashes Teen Miss USA, and makes the same mistake they attribute to her.

[Toke]

I disagree. U.S. American is a term used to acknowledge that the United States is not the only country in America.

It's ironic when everybody bashes Teen Miss USA, and makes the same mistake they attribute to her.

Actually the specification of U.S. American does not bother me, the incoherent rambling afterwards does.

[Architect]

I can never find Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia...

As a child, I laughed at my parents' old atlasses which showed such wierd and wonderful countries as the Baltic states. Well stuff me, it's now more accurate than the one I bought in 1984 for my Higher Georgraphy exams.

[alfaniner]

Mea culpa for not attributing the quote above. As mentioned, it was from a Miss Teen America contestant when asked a question about why American children can't find simple locations on a map. I crack up at Mario Lopez' barely stifled laughter.

[Dave Rogers]

Since when was the Ottoman empire called poof?

If I recall correctly, Lawrence of Arabia made some pretty specific allegations.

Dave

[Dave Rogers]

So, is "wrecking nations" only bad if it's in the last "half century", and anything before that is okay? I guess there's a statute of limitations? Or are we pretending that the US is the only aggressive nation to ever exist, and all the other ones are and always have been pure and noble and sinless?

The first one. They used to say the same things about Perfidious Albion, but we were granted a special dispensation in 1948.

Dave

[dudalb]

So, is "wrecking nations" only bad if it's in the last "half century", and anything before that is okay? I guess there's a statute of limitations? Or are we pretending that the US is the only aggressive nation to ever exist, and all the other ones are and always have been pure and noble and sinless?

.


Add Israel to the US, and I think you are saying what one rather notorious poster here thinks.

[dafydd]

Still missing the link between bad geographic knowledge and brainwashing here. Mind elaborating?

I would not set any great store on a Freeloader On The Land's opinion about brains.

[dafydd]

So, is "wrecking nations" only bad if it's in the last "half century", and anything before that is okay? I guess there's a statute of limitations? Or are we pretending that the US is the only aggressive nation to ever exist, and all the other ones are and always have been pure and noble and sinless?

And geography comes automatically when you learn the history of a place, you don't need to make a special effort, although looking at maps is always fun.

Of course Britain has a pristine record in these matters.

[Richard Masters]

Actually the specification of U.S. American does not bother me, the incoherent rambling afterwards does.

Got it. :o

[lector]

I am partly confused. I think you are correct most people think of the little furniture piece, the name of which usually eludes me. Ottoman rug refers to a variety of pattern styles based out of practices in the Anatolia region and made popular in the west during the Ottoman period of Transylvania. Basically, Oriental rugs made in the Ottoman Empire. When I was a child I spent many hours watching TV sprawled out on my grandma's reproduction of an Ottoman rug.

Here in my country we call them Turkish carpets, not Ottoman rugs.

What country are you from? Do you have other interesting customs?

[Toke]

Here in my country we call them Turkish carpets, not Ottoman rugs.

What country are you from? Do you have other interesting customs?


Here it is either persisk/ægte tæppe, or kelim tæppe (tæppe = rug or carpet)
As far as I know the difference is origin and more importantly whether it is knotted with the tread ends being the surface or just woven with plain surface.