Al-Qaida foils Saudi attack

[aerocontrols]

Al-Qaida has foiled an attack by Saudi security forces on its members in Riyadh, Islamist websites have reported.


Two websites carried a statement on Tuesday attributed to the "Al-Qaida Organisation in the Arabian Peninsula" outlining how the attack was thwarted.

The group "was tipped off by elements within the Saudi security service about an impending attack against the mujahidin, who were in a public place in Al-Rabwa neighbourhood of Riyadh", the statement said.

The alleged assault was supposed to take place on Friday night, said the statement, which was posted on www.xxxxxxxx.com and a Yahoo message board.

Al Jazeera (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/12446944-2838-447D-9425-F9478924DCE0.htm) certainly has an interesting perspective sometimes.

MattJ

[subgenius]

What's your take on the credibility of:
The group "was tipped off by elements within the Saudi security service ......"

[Troll]

Originally posted by subgenius
What's your take on the credibility of:
The group "was tipped off by elements within the Saudi security service ......"

I'm not overly surprised that it may very well be true. A good number of Saudi's would like to see things done differently than the how the regime does business now. Hell you can find corruption or sympathizers for a particular cause in almost every place and every police or military organization in the world. Doesn't mean it is common place. All it takes is for one guy to either have a stake in soemthing or to share a belief.

[Troll]

Originally posted by aerocontrols


Al Jazeera (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/12446944-2838-447D-9425-F9478924DCE0.htm) certainly has an interesting perspective sometimes.

MattJ

If this doesn't show a team choice on their part, I don't know what else could.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by subgenius
What's your take on the credibility of:
The group "was tipped off by elements within the Saudi security service ......"

OBL apparently draws a lot of support from some Saudi groups, Including close ties between his family and the royal family.

If this is the case can we expect a US invasion of Saudi Arabia any time soon? why did the saudis get a "get out of jail free" card?

[subgenius]

Originally posted by The Fool


OBL apparently draws a lot of support from some Saudi groups, Including close ties between his family and the royal family.

If this is the case can we expect a US invasion of Saudi Arabia any time soon? why did the saudis get a "get out of jail free" card?
Oil.

[ssibal]

Originally posted by The Fool

If this is the case can we expect a US invasion of Saudi Arabia any time soon?

Would you support such an invasion, or is your question simply anti U.S. rhetoric?

[Tricky]

Originally posted by ssibal
Would you support such an invasion, or is your question simply anti U.S. rhetoric?
I can't speak for Fool, but I wouldn't support an invasion against Saudi Arabia. However, if I were to support a millitary action within or against any Mideast country, I would start with Saudi Arabia, the country that apparently has the greatest number of Al Qaida supporters, based on the nationality of the 9-11 terrorists.

The country is a seething hotbed of anti US and anti Saud family radicals. But of course, that sort of thing is never mentioned. How could a friend of the US possibly be spawning terrorists? It is unthinkable.

[Globert]

Originally posted by The Fool


OBL apparently draws a lot of support from some Saudi groups, Including close ties between his family and the royal family.

If this is the case can we expect a US invasion of Saudi Arabia any time soon? why did the saudis get a "get out of jail free" card?

According to OBL we already did, hence the beef with the american infidels.

And the road to Riyadh lies through Mecca and Medina. That can o' worms we ain't ready to open... Yet.

[jj]

Originally posted by ssibal


Would you support such an invasion, or is your question simply anti U.S. rhetoric?

Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "false dichotomy", take it to heart, and then start over?

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by subgenius
What's your take on the credibility of:
The group "was tipped off by elements within the Saudi security service ......"

Of course they were. The Fraudis can't trust anybody. They'll be lucky to survive another decade in power.

Originally posted by The Fool
If this is the case can we expect a US invasion of Saudi Arabia any time soon? why did the saudis get a "get out of jail free" card?

I'm confused by this question from you. You are aware that Bin Laden used the presence of American troops in the "Land of the Two Holy Places" as a major recruiting issue. You are aware of the obvious consequences of US troops actually occupying Mecca.

Why act like you aren't?


Originally posted by Tricky
The country is a seething hotbed of anti US and anti Saud family radicals. But of course, that sort of thing is never mentioned. How could a friend of the US possibly be spawning terrorists? It is unthinkable.

It's mentioned all the time. The Middle East is full of tyrants. The friendlier the local tyrant is the the US (Fraudi Arabia and Egypt, as opposed to Iran and Iraq) the more anti-American the populace is.

You'll find this a common thing that is pointed out in neoconservative commentary. Read some Michael Ledeen or Victor David Hanson.

MattJ

[The Fool]

oops. deleted a duplicate post.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Tricky

I can't speak for Fool, but I wouldn't support an invasion against Saudi Arabia. However, if I were to support a millitary action within or against any Mideast country, I would start with Saudi Arabia, the country that apparently has the greatest number of Al Qaida supporters, based on the nationality of the 9-11 terrorists.

The country is a seething hotbed of anti US and anti Saud family radicals. But of course, that sort of thing is never mentioned. How could a friend of the US possibly be spawning terrorists? It is unthinkable.
bah!!! me??? support an invasion???? I must work on my gramma if dats da impression I gave.

I was just musing as to why we invaded Iraq and not Saudi Arabia? was the target OBLs supporters and we just took a wrong turn? Or, more likely, lets invade a middle east country so we don't have to beg the saudis permission to do anything or risk the embarrasment of them ordering our armies home.....hmmmmmm, which one has a dud army?eyerack?? that sounds good...lets go!!!

MattJ is dead right about the Mecca business. I bet Saddam is annoyed Ibrahim didn't build the Kabah in Baghdad instead of Mecca.

[crackmonkey]

Fool, I find your slanderous rantings about the Saudis offensively racist.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by crackmonkey
Fool, I find your slanderous rantings about the Saudis offensively racist.
Lol...this is becoming like a game of wack-a-mole... I'm going to have to ask the cheersquad members to start taking a number and forming queue.

what racist statements are you concerned about? Come sit on uncle fools knee and tell me all about whats worrying you.

[richardm]

Originally posted by crackmonkey
Fool, I find your slanderous rantings about the Saudis offensively racist.

Now, you can categorise me amongst the most raving left-wing PC maniacs, but even I can't see anything racist in The Fool's comments. I think the problem is that you disagree with what he is saying, and he is saying things about people in a different country. If you think that is being racist then perhaps you might want to lay off the crack.

[Troll]

Originally posted by richardm


Now, you can categorise me amongst the most raving left-wing PC maniacs, but even I can't see anything racist in The Fool's comments. I think the problem is that you disagree with what he is saying, and he is saying things about people in a different country. If you think that is being racist then perhaps you might want to lay off the crack.

It is more of an inside joke than anything. But now you've done gone and got yourself labled as an apologist for Fool's racism and have formed the Fool Racist Cheersquad.;)

[richardm]

Originally posted by Troll


It is more of an inside joke than anything. But now you've done gone and got yourself labled as an apologist for Fool's racism and have formed the Fool Racist Cheersquad.;)

D'oh :D

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by subgenius
What's your take on the credibility of:
The group "was tipped off by elements within the Saudi security service ......"

The "Prime Minister" of Pakistan has survived two recent assasination attempts that could only have been planned with the knowledge of people close to him. He only survived by sheer good luck. There is a hard fought battle going on in the Muslim world.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by subgenius

Oil.

Didn't Iraq have oil?

:p

[aerocontrols]

Episode 47,089 in Fraudi Arabia's low-level civil war. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3416877.stm)


A Saudi prince has accused his government of kidnapping him in Switzerland after he spoke out in favour of reform in Saudi Arabia.

Prince Sultan bin Turki bin Abdel-Aziz says he was lured to a meeting in Geneva, where he was drugged before being flown back to the desert kingdom.

[Tricky]

If you're interested in the subject of US-Saudi relations, try this book, Sleeping With the Devil (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400050219/qid=1074805103/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-5682418-4336664), by former CIA agent Robert Baer. It details how the US wound up in bed with one of the most ruthless, cruel regimes of all time. A couple of warnings. First, this book will scare the living crap out of you. Foreign affairs of this sort are not for the faint-hearted. The other warning is that you may be put off by the occasional segments of the book which have been blacked out by the American censors in the interests of "national security"

From the Amazon review:
As Baer makes clear, the U.S. has been aware of problems within the bitterly divided Al Sa'ud family for years, but has ignored the facts in order to keep lucrative business deals afloat. (The amount of money the royal family spends to influence powerful American politicians and lobbyists is staggering.) Particularly damning are his details regarding Saudi Arabia's support of militant Islamic groups, including al Qaeda. The ruling family funnels millions of dollars to such groups in order to dissuade them from overthrowing the monarchy--a protection scheme that is shaky at best, given the hatred most citizens feel for the ruling family.

[ssibal]

Sorry, I would fully support an invasion of Saudi Arabia. And the worries of Mecca only provides further evidence that Islam is a breeding ground for maniacs.