Source of the explosions in The Pentagon

[thecritta]

Again, we will discuss things that go boom in a huge ******* fire.

Again if you believe that the boom in this video was caused by
something exploding due to the fire heat at the pentagon i am going
to ask that you give me a source that explains the explosion?

Split from: Source of the explosions in the WTC towers (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=164094).

[carlitos]

Again if you believe that the boom in this video was caused by
something exploding due to the fire heat at the pentagon i am going
to ask that you give me a source that explains the explosion?

Hi the critta. :) Are you in the wrong thread, or are you off-topic? This one is about the World Trade Center towers, formerly located in lower Manhattan, New York City.

[thecritta]

Hi the critta. :) Are you in the wrong thread, or are you off-topic? This one is about the World Trade Center towers, formerly located in lower Manhattan, New York City.

No i am not posting in the wrong thread this topic i started a while
back debating whether or not there is any evidence of explosives used
in the twin towers so i decided to switch for looking for evidence of the use of explosives at the pentagon got a problem with that? By the way you didn't catch me out this time better luck next time pal.

:) :) :)

[T.A.M.]

No i am not posting in the wrong thread this topic i started a while
back debating whether or not there is any evidence of explosives used
in the twin towers so i decided to switch for looking for evidence of the use of explosives at the pentagon got a problem with that? By the way you didn't catch me out this time better luck next time pal.

:) :) :)

well technically you are a little off topic, given the topic, which YOU CREATED, was concerning the use of explosives in the WTCs, not the Pentagon. You can stomp out about it all you want, but the fact is, we have plenty of threads about the Pentagon attacks, where you could have posted this.

Anyway, did you find what you were looking for?

TAM:)

[triforcharity]

Again if you believe that the boom in this video was caused by
something exploding due to the fire heat at the pentagon i am going
to ask that you give me a source that explains the explosion?

WTF? What video? I see no video.

Same things that go boom in the Twin Towers as go boom in the Pentagon.

THEY'RE BOTH OFFICES!!

[thecritta]

well technically you are a little off topic, given the topic, which YOU CREATED, was concerning the use of explosives in the WTCs, not the Pentagon. You can stomp out about it all you want, but the fact is, we have plenty of threads about the Pentagon attacks, where you could have posted this.

Anyway, did you find what you were looking for?

TAM:)

I dont really care whether it is off topic or not, if somebody doesnt like
it or one of the forum mods doesnt like it he/she can split it into two topics.
And i am not really stomping about it either.

And when you say "did you find what you where looking for" i say well
yes kind of.

[thecritta]

WTF? What video? I see no video.

Same things that go boom in the Twin Towers as go boom in the Pentagon.

THEY'RE BOTH OFFICES!!

Here i believe this is what your looking for:

second explosion Pentagon, FOX, 10:10, 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DZPTsS4Ao

And here is even more evidence from eyewitnesses to
help corroborate the fact that there was a massive explosion
at the pentagon around 10:10 am that day.

In the 911 Pager Messages I found two messages that say there were two explosions, the time of one of the messages is around 10:13 AM. The other is from people in the Sheraton.

2001-09-11 10:13:33 Skytel [005103509] B ALPHA My dad is on foot walking towards the Pentagon. He just heard another explosion from there. There are also rumors of another explosion in DC.

2001-09-11 11:07:31 Skytel [005202563] A ALPHA Jesus - Both Michael and I are fine ... I was in a training class at the Sheraton PENTAGON .. we felt the explosions (there were 2). Cla

[thecritta]

A ******* Jumbo jet full of THOUSANDS of gallons of FUEL! ?!?!!?!

Also, those windows were not blast resistant. They very well could have been broken by firefighters trying to ventilate the building. We do that sometimes.

Well i think that most of the force from the explosion of the jet fuel when
flight 77 allegedly hit the pentagon and exploded would have been largely
contained in the outer most ring when the plane hit and exploded it just
sounds too implausible to me that the jet fuel bowed out those windows.

Can someone please explain how the explosion from the jet fuel managed
to bow out those windows?

Oh yeah and as far as breaking out the windows to let out the smoke, it sounds plausible to me but why would they bother hitting the windows in such a fashion as to make the center
of the windows bow out?

Really please try again.

[Redtail]

Here i believe this is what your looking for:

second explosion Pentagon, FOX, 10:10, 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DZPTsS4Ao

And here is even more evidence from eyewitnesses to
help corroborate the fact that there was a massive explosion
at the pentagon around 10:10 am that day.

In the 911 Pager Messages I found two messages that say there were two explosions, the time of one of the messages is around 10:13 AM. The other is from people in the Sheraton.

2001-09-11 10:13:33 Skytel [005103509] B ALPHA My dad is on foot walking towards the Pentagon. He just heard another explosion from there. There are also rumors of another explosion in DC.

2001-09-11 11:07:31 Skytel [005202563] A ALPHA Jesus - Both Michael and I are fine ... I was in a training class at the Sheraton PENTAGON .. we felt the explosions (there were 2). Cla

Yes. Things explode in fires.

[fess]

"you guys gotta get out
of here its a bomb"
If the "it" she was refering to was a bomb, why the hell was she still standing there?
(Sorry, I'm out of synch.)

[thecritta]

Yes. Things explode in fires.

Yes but no all things that explode in a fire, explode with enough
force to create such a big loud explosion, so come on plz tell
me what you think is the source of the explosion gas pipe
gas bottle or cylinder?

[JimBenArm]

Could you please stop hitting "Enter" and just let the line wrap? And try to use punctuation and capitalization. We might actually be able to decipher this gibberish if you do. Unless you like looking stupid.

[thecritta]

If the "it" she was refering to was a bomb, why the hell was she still standing there?
(Sorry, I'm out of synch.)

Dude I think she is a fair distance away from the pentagon
I assume she might be standing next to the camera actually
where the hell is she?

What do you expect her to be running away from the pentagon?
what do you expect her reaction to be? I think that not all people
would be running away from a building if they where a considerable
distance away from it, I think they would be in shock horror, and
thinking to themselves what the hell is going on what just happened.

[Redtail]

Yes but no all things that explode in a fire, explode with enough
force to create such a big loud explosion, so come on plz tell
me what you think is the source of the explosion gas pipe
gas bottle or cylinder?

Any kind of fuel cylinder, fuel tank, hell a water heater tank can blow with a lot of energy.

[triforcharity]

Well i think that most of the force from the explosion of the jet fuel when
flight 77 allegedly hit the pentagon and exploded would have been largely
contained in the outer most ring when the plane hit and exploded it just
sounds too implausible to me that the jet fuel bowed out those windows.

Can someone please explain how the explosion from the jet fuel managed
to bow out those windows?

Oh yeah and as far as breaking out the windows to let out the smoke, it sounds plausible to me but why would they bother hitting the windows in such a fashion as to make the center
of the windows bow out?

Really please try again.

I stand corrected. They would not have been broken out by firefighters in that manor. So, you are correct on that.

Now, those little single pane windows in the photos referenced in the original post, would have been easily blown OUTWARD by blast overpressurization. Very common in explosions.
Air will take the path of least resistance. The least resistant path, is, of course, the windows.

[T.A.M.]

I dont really care whether it is off topic or not, if somebody doesnt like
it or one of the forum mods doesnt like it he/she can split it into two topics.
And i am not really stomping about it either.

And when you say "did you find what you where looking for" i say well
yes kind of.

So what you are saying is just wanna come here, do as you please, abide by no rules, official or not, of conduct and civility, simply to make a point.

Fine, your lack of observance of the rules is noted, and I for one will be reporting you on a regular basis when you stray, in hopes of having you suspended or banned.

TAM:)

[fess]

Dude I think she is a fair distance away from the pentagon
I assume she might be standing next to the camera actually
where the hell is she?
If she is a fair distance away from where the bomb is, why is she saying; " get the hell out of here"?
What do you expect her to be running away from the pentagon?
The "bomb" you spoke of for one.
what do you expect her reaction to be? Running. I think that not all people would be running away from a building if they where a considerable distance away from it, I think they would be in shock horror, and thinking to themselves what the hell is going on what just happened.

You just contradicted yourself.

[tsig]

Could you please stop hitting "Enter" and just let the line wrap? And try to use punctuation and capitalization. We might actually be able to decipher this gibberish if you do. Unless you like looking stupid.

Operating on teh compter is veery new to him. Yet we cna lern from hem.

[DC]

Again if you believe that the boom in this video was caused by
something exploding due to the fire heat at the pentagon i am going
to ask that you give me a source that explains the explosion?

Split from: Source of the explosions in the WTC towers (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=164094).

the explosions came from exploding stuff.

[Evilgiraffe]

Well i think that most of the force from the explosion of the jet fuel when
flight 77 allegedly hit the pentagon and exploded would have been largely
contained in the outer most ring when the plane hit and exploded it just
sounds too implausible to me that the jet fuel bowed out those windows.

Can someone please explain how the explosion from the jet fuel managed
to bow out those windows?

Oh yeah and as far as breaking out the windows to let out the smoke, it sounds plausible to me but why would they bother hitting the windows in such a fashion as to make the center
of the windows bow out?

Really please try again.

Argument from incredulity noted.

Do you have any evidence to back up these assertions? If not, then no-one really cares what you think or how implausible you find any scenario.

[Mangoose]

Since the airliner first crashed into the limestone-brickwork-concrete facade, it is likely that a portion of the aluminum skin was ground into powder (like flash powder) which contributed to the force of the explosion.

[TruthersLie]

Yes but no all things that explode in a fire, explode with enough
force to create such a big loud explosion, so come on plz tell
me what you think is the source of the explosion gas pipe
gas bottle or cylinder?

I can think of about 20 things which xplode with HUGE explosiosn in fires. Apparently you can't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGWmONHipVo&feature=PlayList&p=rNT01AMikEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqhdS9neZlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ZLefQC_oU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6V3UeBlxcs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcx5k2Wk6Xk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz6V8vt-Lu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YY7TGnSaHw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLzgZdt8ZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HZW0jup6A

wowsers... you mean things in fires explode?

Can you eliminate ANY of these objects which would be in an office building on fire? yes or no?

[gumboot]

The explosion in question wasn't very big or large at all.

[BigAl]

Again if you believe that the boom in this video was caused by
something exploding due to the fire heat at the pentagon i am going
to ask that you give me a source that explains the explosion?

Split from: Source of the explosions in the WTC towers (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=164094).

"explosion" is just a word for "loud noise". A loud noise can describe what hapens when a big jet hits a wall at 500MPH.

When you are telling your office workers in a military facility to get out, you don't shout "Plane!", you shout "bomb!".

[hokie]

A loud explosion and no plume of smoke is what the person speaking states. The link I watched did not have the explosion on it. The speaker refers to an event that just happened.

In the middle of a crisis a single person is trying to describe the mayhem in front of them. Clearly they are unsure of what is happening and are trying to produce anything they can. Not all of it is correct. That same day there were reports of car bombs going off. Didn't happen. In the confusion of the moment many mistakes are made.

[dafydd]

Dude I think she is a fair distance away from the pentagon
I assume she might be standing next to the camera actually
where the hell is she?

What do you expect her to be running away from the pentagon?
what do you expect her reaction to be? I think that not all people
would be running away from a building if they where a considerable
distance away from it, I think they would be in shock horror, and
thinking to themselves what the hell is going on what just happened.


Dude,I think she is a fair distance away from the Pentagon (and)
I assume she might be standing next to the camera,(but)actually
where the hell is she?

What do you expect her to be running away from (in? outside?) the Pentagon?
What do you expect her reaction to be? I think that not all people
would be running away from a building if they WERE a considerable
distance away from it, (and) I think they would be in (a state of shock) shock horror, and thinking to themselves ''what the hell is going on,what just happened?''

No thanks needed critta,my pleasure.