Debunking Rothshild?

[911kongen]

Anybody know were I can find debunking of Rothschild conspiracy-theories? There are a lot of debunking on 911, but what is the best debunking on Rothschild-theories?
Any links, internet pages?

[angrysoba]

Anybody know were I can find debunking of Rothschild conspiracy-theories? There are a lot of debunking on 911, but what is the best debunking on Rothschild-theories?
Any links, internet pages?

But what's the point? Anyone can see those aliens in the autopsy videos aren't real.

Actually, I don't have any links but Niall Ferguson has written a little about the conspiracy theories around the Rothschild family, in the Ascent of Money, for example.

[LightinDarkness]

Debunking WHAT, exactly? That conspiracy theorists become enraged at families with lots of money because they don't have any? Its just basic populism.

[Red3]

You can't really debunk them. Most of the things the CTists believe they believe because they want to, not because there's any evidence of any foul play. Plus I believe the family are pretty low profile in the public eye (which is hardly surprising). So there's not a whole lot widely known about their dealings.

[CUIBono?(ImaEEjit)]

rothschild? Low profile? muhahahahaha! for you sheepies perhaps!

Otherwise known as the Inter Alpha group, there is practically no hustle where they dont have there fingers deep in its rectum. Drugs, money, the wwf and even fookin Wine, to name a few. Good luck debunking that(on the other hand you could give em a call maybe theyll pay you for some grade A debunkery:)

To get you started, who enslaved Brazil? Bank Santander! who owns Santander? There ye are.

And please dont claim im hating on international organized Jewery, because im a bloody Kraut and that doesnt come across too well here. (ya never know whos readin:-)

[DC]

are there CT's where the Rothschilds are not accused?

[Harpo]

rothschild? Low profile? muhahahahaha! for you sheepies perhaps!

Otherwise known as the Inter Alpha group, there is practically no hustle where they dont have there fingers deep in its rectum. Drugs, money, the wwf and even fookin Wine, to name a few. Good luck debunking that(on the other hand you could give em a call maybe theyll pay you for some grade A debunkery:)

To get you started, who enslaved Brazil? Bank Santander! who owns Santander? There ye are.

And please dont claim im hating on international organized Jewery, because im a bloody Kraut and that doesnt come across too well here. (ya never know whos readin:-)

Worthy of a Stundie?

[Red3]

rothschild? Low profile? muhahahahaha! for you sheepies perhaps!

Otherwise known as the Inter Alpha group, there is practically no hustle where they dont have there fingers deep in its rectum. Drugs, money, the wwf and even fookin Wine, to name a few. Good luck debunking that(on the other hand you could give em a call maybe theyll pay you for some grade A debunkery:)

To get you started, who enslaved Brazil? Bank Santander! who owns Santander? There ye are.

And please dont claim im hating on international organized Jewery, because im a bloody Kraut and that doesnt come across too well here. (ya never know whos readin:-)

Are you for real?! I can't tell.

Apart from the drugs bit - which I'd like you to prove (which you can't), it just sounds like they're rich and you hate them for it.

[carlitos]

Wow. Grupo Santander officers are here (http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/banco-santander-s-a/std/nys/key-executives). No Rothschilds on the list.

Top shareholders are here. (http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/banco-santander-s-a/std/nys/institutional-ownership) Again, no Rothschilds.

Can someone point me to the Rothschild family interest in Santander? It's the biggest bank in Europe; surely they have an interest.

Oh, the inter-alpha group (http://www.inter-alpha.com/). That makes sense.

Welcome to The Inter-Alpha Group of Banks
The Inter Alpha Group of Banks was established in 1971 by six major European Community banks. At that time, the member banks had only limited experience in the international banking markets. The Group was formed to provide a platform for the regular exchange of ideas and explore areas for co-operation. The Group has no hierarchical structure and is connected only by a loosely worded ‘Agreement’ with each bank retaining its autonomy and independence.

[Red3]

Oh, the inter-alpha group (http://www.inter-alpha.com/). That makes sense.

The logo is a pyramid. Must be Freemasons.:rolleyes:

[Thunder]

my favorite one, is that the Star of David a Rothschild symbol, not an ancient Jewish one.

[CUIBono?(ImaEEjit)]

what up, weird Star wars alien thing!

Am I real? I ask myself that often, especially when I eat too many psylos...:-)
As for hating rich people, hell yeah! I hate therm so bad, Sometimes I dont know if i would get anything done without class-hate fueling my actions. But more on that another time.

Listen I know you will probably see this as shirking discussion, but Im reeely in a lil bit of a hurry today. Ive looked into this before, but my brain chemistry is so haywired that Its really a bit of a dice roll what I can remember at any given time. I pinky pinky promise and Boyscout swear that ill get back to you in more detail, aight. Until then, Ill leave you with a tiny little bit about them(I admit, its a lil bit...predispositioned... but it gives a lead).

Bis denne!

"Banco Santander was a Rothschild bank from its beginning in 1857, with one of its six founders being the son of the Rothschild agent in the city of Santander. The Botin family, which runs the bank today, married into the family of this Rothschild agent. There has been much speculation over the years as to how the Botins manage to maintain control of the bank while owning such a small amount of its stock, but the answer is simple. Sometimes, it is not what you own, but what owns you, that is the determining factor. In this case, the Botins are controlled by the Rothschilds, making them little more than puppets of the empire."

[DC]

Bis denne!

lol you'r swiss?

[garethdjb]

"Banco Santander was a Rothschild bank from its beginning in 1857, with one of its six founders being the son of the Rothschild agent in the city of Santander. The Botin family, which runs the bank today, married into the family of this Rothschild agent. There has been much speculation over the years as to how the Botins manage to maintain control of the bank while owning such a small amount of its stock, but the answer is simple. Sometimes, it is not what you own, but what owns you, that is the determining factor. In this case, the Botins are controlled by the Rothschilds, making them little more than puppets of the empire."


The source of this gem: Larouche. (http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13627)

[carlitos]

The source of this gem: Larouche. (http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13627)

Beat me to it. Someone tell the new guy that:
- On this forum, we use standard English.
- If you post quoted text, please provide a link to your source.

[Red3]

"Banco Santander was a Rothschild bank from its beginning in 1857 (1), with one of its six founders being the son of the Rothschild agent in the city of Santander. (2) The Botin family, which runs the bank today, married into the family of this Rothschild agent. (3) There has been much speculation over the years as to how the Botins manage to maintain control of the bank while owning such a small amount of its stock(4), but the answer is simple. Sometimes, it is not what you own, but what owns you, that is the determining factor. In this case, the Botins are controlled by the Rothschilds,(5) making them little more than puppets of the empire."

O.K, I'm hung over but I'll try...

1. Says who? Do you have a Link/source?
2. Which "one of it's six founders?" And who is this Rothschild agent? Do you have a Link/source?
3. Again, who is this? Do you have a Link/source?
4. How much stock does he own? Do you have a Link/source?
5.Again, says who? Do you have a Link/source?

The website where that quote came from is utter trash - another fine example below:

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/14157

April 13, 2010 (LPAC)-- Yes, Mabel, the Queen of England does push dope. Anyone who seeks to deny this now, is worse than a Nazi-like liar. Worse, her government is presently engaged in the greatest attempt at mass-murder, planet-wide, in world history to date. In her regime's effort to bring about the great, world-wide genocide advocated by the World Wildlife Fund of her husband, the Duke of Edinburgh, her minions have also attempted to destroy the most prominent force against genocide operating world-wide today, the Catholic Church.

Worst of all, she is using her dupe, the Nero-like, would-be, Hitler-like mass-murderer President Barack Obama, in the effort to accomplish those Hitler-copied objectives.

We wish to say next to nothing here about British sex practices such as those associated with types such as the late John Maynard Keynes, et al.. We stick to the issue of her government's resort to the combined practices of genocide and drug-pushing. The methods for promoting the destruction of civilization through opium production in Afghanistan is now McChrystal-clear.

[carlitos]

The beauty of these conspiracies is that they never have to be right, just serving to stir the masses for whatever reason. To wit:
This was from November 15, 2008 (http://digg.com/world_news/Rothschild_Dynasty_Plan_To_Crash_UK_Pound_Sterling _Working)
Rothschild Dynasty Plan To Crash UK Pound Sterling Working
hosted.ap.org — The move of NM Rothschild & Sons, Ltd. from the City of London to Paris Orleans holdings (www.paris-orleans.com) in the new financial capitol of the world, Paris, signaled the death of the pound sterling, and the UK economy. As UK PM Brown is surrendering UK national sovereignty in Washington with other world leaders, an opposition leader alarmed.

Here is a chart (http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=EURGBP=X#chart1:symbol=eurgbp=x;range=2y ;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlc values=0;logscale=on;source=undefined) showing how the British Pound increased in value more than 20% vs. the Euro in November-December, 2008, and indeed it still costs ~10% more Euros to buy a pound today.

[CUIBono?(ImaEEjit)]

It is I!

Ill admit, I have been avoiding posting an answer here for quite some time. I made some wild allegations regarding drugs( although I didnt even have to say the queen slangs Heron, you quoted that for me:-), I quoted Larouche(OhMYGOD) and compacted my mistake but not even citing my source. Worst of all though, I used the weakest link of the Rothschild/Inter Alpha dynasty(proof wise) as my MAIN ARGUMENT.

In other words, I made your job real easy. And it has been a real Bi*ch finding anything "credible" linking Santander and Rothschild, Ill admit that too. I must look like an Eejit, eh?

So ill try and take this step by step, and Ill stick around this time.

First ill attempt to reestablish my credibility, if that is at all possible in the internet. Im not gonna lie, my dad has been down with the laroucheans for a long time. I basically grew up with their "noxious rhetoric", first blindly accepting a lot of it, then questioning it, then downright hating it and being opposed to pretty much everything they say, by default. It probably had to do with teenage rebellion, but one has to admit they are run like a cult and are not exactly known for healthy, open discussion(not to mention the little coup de etat they had within their own org). By now I've kind of made my peace with them, I think some of their ideas are good(debt moratorium f.e.), but I know that the truth is never in one place and blindly following a leader, no matter how smart you think he is, will always lead to problems.

In other words, im not gonna defend Larouche. He's a bit of a nutjob. But I am gonna say this. He was the FIRST mofo that predicted the financial blowout of '08. Yes, he'd been predicting it for years, always moving the date forward, but it definitely could have blown earlier and the whole mess had been building up since Reagan, as most economists will now admit. I quoted that bit from him because it was the first thing I found and most of the stuff about Rothschild and co. usually ends up citing Larouche anyways. EIR has written about Inter Alpha in great detail, but they are hard to get a hold of. Ill ask my old man, he should probably still have some. I found a blog post regarding Santander and Inter Alpha/rothschild which is relatively in depth, but also cites Larouche a couple of times. Ill post it seperately right after this. Which brings me to my next point:
I simply do not know enough about finance and mergers and alla this ***** to really defend a lot of the stuff regarding who runs whom, particularly when it comes to banks. I definitely confirmed that when I tried to look for Rothschild stuff. So ill let you guys look at the blog post and see what you say, and from now on Ill stick to what I DO know(or believe to know). See this as my introduction post:-)

Ive been a dope boy most of my life(im obviously not anymore or I wouldnt be saying it online:-). Ive always been better at getting thrown out of school than studying, and being a smartass petty criminal has pretty much defined my existence other than a two year stint in the german army. Only recently have I begun to "get my act together" so to speak. So im not exactly somebody youd want as a character witness. But what I have been good at in my best(worst) of times is being an evil, cunniving ****. Seriously, I was so manipulative it bordered on psycho/sociopathy. I really didnt care about anyone, but I sure could act like it. And this may sound arrogant, but I believe this gives me an insight into the world that a compassionate, caring individual probably doesnt have. I also have no trouble changing my opinion on something at the drop of a hat, because, as a girl once said to me, I have no respect for anything, especially myself. The plus side of that is im kind of hard to dupe(and im good at poker:-). Usually the only person capable of tricking me is myself, because im too lazy to do the homework.

Anyhoo, enough about me. Lets do the easy ones first.

Carlitos bit on Euro vs. Pound: Doesnt really seem to have any relevance, other than the name Rothschild. Maybe they were planning to crash the pound. Maybe they werent. Maybe it failed. Maybe I dont even quite understand what your saying. All I can tell you is that I think we are ALL approaching some form of Weimarian hyper-infalation, and its probably gonna hit Europe first. And thats not my opinion because of some in-depth analysis, its just a subjective observation. Banks go bankrupt, we pump them full of money. Greece goes bankrupt, we pump em full of money. The more money you make, the less it is worth. Money has long since ceased to actually represent anything, and it has worked up till now, but it cant go on forever. Im pretty sure of that.

next: Carlito again on Inter Alpha. So your discrediting my claim that InterAlpha has some kind of an agenda and works together/possibly takes orders by linking to their website in which they state as their goals:

* Provide a platform for the regular exchange of ideas at Executive and Senior Management level
* Allow specialists to meet and discuss topics of particular interest
* Establish areas of co operation, particularly in international trade
* Train junior and middle management by means of an annual Inter-Alpha Banking School and annual Inter-Alpha Banking Management Programme at INSEAD at Fountainbleau near Paris
* Create a framework for individual banks within the Group to work together.

and im supposed to completely dismiss the idea that they just might be colluding and using their widespread influence to manipulate financial affairs because they say: dont worry, we dont take orders from anybody, gee golly, we dont even have any rules, just a "loosely worded agreement"?

Don't you think thats just a teensy bit blue eyed, mr. sceptic? I mean sure, it doesnt prove anything....but what would you expect if they were really up to something? Something like this on their homepage?:

*Provides a platform for financial slavery, international arms trade, Narco-trafficking, Money laundering, Terrorism and general thuggery.

*Takes direct orders from head Zionist/Nephilim/shapeshifter so and so.

*Trains junior and middle management in Witchcraft, infant sacrifice and debauchery.

(I dont believe in lizzard people, dont worry:-)

Next up: Drugs. Biiig topic. My thoughts, coming up right after I post the blog I mentioned.

[CUIBono?(ImaEEjit)]

Oops, my bad. It isnt an independent blog its from EIR. I cant link to it, so ill write it out. I know your all predisposed against against Larouche the cult leader, but lets see if this stands on its own merits:

mariokenny.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/the-anglo-venetians-behind-santander/

Next up, DRUGS! yaaay! Ive got plenty of time today, so I wont be doing a dissapearing act. And Ill stay on the lookout for Rothschild related stuff.

[CUIBono?(ImaEEjit)]

I actually found a copy of Dope, Inc on the internet so im going to read it first before I get back on the whole "The queen works the trap slangin Heron bit" (maybe she listens to Gucci Mane or Wacka Flocka while shes at it, who knows;-) Tom., I should think!

peace

[theprestige]

I must say, I'm impressed with how quickly CUIBono has gone from "it's totally true!" to "actually I have no evidence, but maybe it's possible?"

[Skeptic]

I'm pretty sure he's pulling our leg.

[angrysoba]

I must say, I'm impressed with how quickly CUIBono has gone from "it's totally true!" to "actually I have no evidence, but maybe it's possible?"

It's about this time that a conspiracy theorist will cleverly shift the burden of proof, "How do you know my harebrained crap isn't true?"

[JoeyDonuts]

*Takes direct orders from head Zionist/Nephilim/shapeshifter so and so.

Just out of curiousity, where'd you pick this up?

[carlitos]

It is I!

Carlitos bit on Euro vs. Pound: Doesnt really seem to have any relevance, other than the name Rothschild. Maybe they were planning to crash the pound. Maybe they werent. Maybe it failed. Maybe I dont even quite understand what your saying. All I can tell you is that I think we are ALL approaching some form of Weimarian hyper-infalation, and its probably gonna hit Europe first. And thats not my opinion because of some in-depth analysis, its just a subjective observation. Banks go bankrupt, we pump them full of money. Greece goes bankrupt, we pump em full of money. The more money you make, the less it is worth. Money has long since ceased to actually represent anything, and it has worked up till now, but it cant go on forever. Im pretty sure of that.


Yes, nothing lasts forever. Very good observation.

The point is that the pound didn't crash in the 18 months since that paranoid rant was posted. Your predictions will also be wrong. And you won't "stick around" to defend them, you will just move to another internet site and say the same crap again. Please prove me wrong.

[Foolmewunz]

I must say, I'm impressed with how quickly CUIBono has gone from "it's totally true!" to "actually I have no evidence, but maybe it's possible?"

My .02 shekels.


More CAPS. More crazy fonts! More colours/colors!

[theprestige]

It's about this time that a conspiracy theorist will cleverly shift the burden of proof, "How do you know my harebrained crap isn't true?"
Which, coincidentally, signals that the conversation has reached my threshold for diminishing returns.

[Red3]

I actually found a copy of Dope, Inc on the internet so im going to read it first before I get back on the whole "The queen works the trap slangin Heron bit" (maybe she listens to Gucci Mane or Wacka Flocka while shes at it, who knows;-) Tom., I should think!

peace

Well if you wanna talk about that one point, i'll take that up. You won't get many takers for the NWO/international banker thing in it's entirity though because it's too big to cover.

[PhantomWolf]

My .02 shekels.


More CAPS. More crazy fonts! More colours/colors!

And multiple exclaimation points, you forgot the multiple exclaimation points!!!

[mike3]

You can't really debunk them. Most of the things the CTists believe they believe because they want to, not because there's any evidence of any foul play. Plus I believe the family are pretty low profile in the public eye (which is hardly surprising). So there's not a whole lot widely known about their dealings.

And it's that last part that creates a fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

[Red3]

And it's that last part that creates a fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

Yeah, maybe so. But you can't demand transparency in every part of someone's life just because a bunch of paranoid nuts get their knickers in a twist.

That's whay annoys me about CTists; they're the first ones to jump up and down about lack of rights/privacy, and then they demand to know everything about someone else.

[mike3]

It is I!
Ive been a dope boy most of my life(im obviously not anymore or I wouldnt be saying it online:-). Ive always been better at getting thrown out of school than studying, and being a smartass petty criminal has pretty much defined my existence other than a two year stint in the german army. Only recently have I begun to "get my act together" so to speak. So im not exactly somebody youd want as a character witness. But what I have been good at in my best(worst) of times is being an evil, cunniving ****. Seriously, I was so manipulative it bordered on psycho/sociopathy. I really didnt care about anyone, but I sure could act like it. And this may sound arrogant, but I believe this gives me an insight into the world that a compassionate, caring individual probably doesnt have. I also have no trouble changing my opinion on something at the drop of a hat, because, as a girl once said to me, I have no respect for anything, especially myself. The plus side of that is im kind of hard to dupe(and im good at poker:-). Usually the only person capable of tricking me is myself, because im too lazy to do the homework.


So then you've essentially admitted that you have no real knowledge of how anything works -- you didn't bother to study anything, too lazy to do any homework, etc.

[Red3]

This recipe always comes in handy - "anti establishment bias + wild imagination + ignorance of subjects in question = conspiracy theory". I tink that's what we have here :D