Curse you socialised healthcare!

[Undesired Walrus]

This morning I got a package through the post with 'NHS' on the top. Alarmed, I ripped it open, and was pleasently surprised to see that it was a free chlamydia testing kit:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/IMG01343-20100405-1501.jpg

I presume every other person under 25 in the borough, if not the city got this pack, regardless of income.

All I had to do was piss into a tube and send it off, without having to pay for a stamp! All the while I remembered a friend of mine who had to pay £200 for a STD check when they went private.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/IMG01344-20100405-1506.jpg

Thanks Socialised healthcare!

[fagin]

Don't forget to let us know if you've got it.

[Captain.Sassy]

Don't forget to let us know if you've got it.

I actually don't plan on ever knowing Undesired Walrus well enough for this to ever be a concern of mine...

best just PM fagin...

[andyandy]

I'm glad that was your thumb in the second picture, given the topic I didn't quite know what to expect as i scrolled down.....


:boxedin:

[lionking]

Bloody socialised healthcare. Testing people even though they are healthy! ;)

[Fishstick]

Great, now the government wants your pee too! That really pisses me off.

[Duffy Moon]

They're taking the piss.

[DC]

Nationwide Drugtesting? :D

[Darat]

They not only want your urine they demanded my mother's ..er.. faeces under the guise of "Bowel Cancer Screening"!

[The True Scotsman]

I think we can all agree that this "testing kit" is just a cover for the Nazi-Commie-Atheist-Reptilian Shape Shifter-Masonic-Illuminati-Bilderburg-Satanist-Shadow Government to steal your DNA so they can make clones of you and build an army to take over the world.

[Redtail]

Nationwide Drugtesting? :D

:eye-poppi If it wasn't for the massive invasion of privacy it would take for me to pull the prank off, I would sooooo show up at UW's door with an "interpol badge", "test results", and an "arrest warrant".

[Beerina]

This morning I got a package through the post with 'NHS' on the top. Alarmed, I ripped it open, and was pleasently surprised to see that it was a free chlamydia testing kit:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/IMG01343-20100405-1501.jpg

I presume every other person under 25 in the borough, if not the city got this pack, regardless of income.

All I had to do was piss into a tube and send it off, without having to pay for a stamp! All the while I remembered a friend of mine who had to pay £200 for a STD check when they went private.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/IMG01344-20100405-1506.jpg

Thanks Socialised healthcare!



You forgot to thank the scientists who invented it for you*.













* Which may or may not have involved government spending, itself, but that's not the point.

[DC]

You forgot to thank the scientists who invented it for you*.













* Which may or may not have involved government spending, itself, but that's not the point.
yeah and without government, they would sell alot lot less of those tests.
thus less PROFIT thus non socialised healthcare kills people and stopps medical research. :eye-poppi

[fitzgibbon]

I think we can all agree that this "testing kit" is just a cover for the Nazi-Commie-Atheist-Reptilian Shape Shifter-Masonic-Illuminati-Bilderburg-Satanist-Shadow Government to steal your DNA so they can make clones of you and build an army to take over the world.

Oy! I resent the inclusion of Masonic in there! :D

[Fishstick]

The government is putting bureaucrats between you and your pee. WILL YOU LET THEM?!

[fitzgibbon]

Not to mention postal employees. To what level will socialised medicine not stoop?

[Fishstick]

I for one am appalled postal employees are handling and may or may not be sniffing my pee.

[The True Scotsman]

Oy! I resent the inclusion of Masonic in there! :D

Awake up! The Masons are shape-shifting robots from the future who have travel back in time to kill John Conner! Just look at this website:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_2:_Judgment_Day

And if this doesn't convince you, then you're just a brainwashed sheeple!

:P

[The Painter]

What kind of government just assumes that everyone under 25 is a whore slut/cocksman (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksman) with an STD? I guess they would also assume anyone under 25 is also on drugs, so they will test for that too. How much money is wasted testing people who don’t have this disease? Oh well, you guys like this. Whatever floats your boat.

[DC]

What kind of government just assumes that everyone under 25 is a whore slut/cocksman (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksman) with an STD? I guess they would also assume anyone under 25 is also on drugs, so they will test for that too. How much money is wasted testing people who don’t have this disease? Oh well, you guys like this. Whatever floats your boat.

prevention saves money.

[Delscottio]

What kind of government just assumes that everyone under 25 is a whore slut/cocksman (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksman) with an STD? I guess they would also assume anyone under 25 is also on drugs, so they will test for that too. How much money is wasted testing people who don’t have this disease? Oh well, you guys like this. Whatever floats your boat.

Er its not mandatory you know........


Its a simple cheap test that detects an easily treated infection that affects a large percentage of under 25's. I don't see much difference to the yearly medicals that seem the norm in the US, but again what ever floats ya boat.

[Tatyana]

What kind of government just assumes that everyone under 25 is a whore slut/cocksman (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksman) with an STD? I guess they would also assume anyone under 25 is also on drugs, so they will test for that too. How much money is wasted testing people who don’t have this disease? Oh well, you guys like this. Whatever floats your boat.

There are frequently no symptoms and it causes sterility.

It is also quite prevalent in the UK, this age group has been shown to have the highest incidence.

There is this thing the NHS has been doing over the last decade which is quite innovative, called evidence-based medicine.

All of the testing is confidential.

Drug testing isn't that common in the UK, and I am fairly positive if a doctor wants a drug test to help with a diagnosis or treatment, they can't be used for legal purposes.

I have had a sports drug screen, and it had to be sent to the US.



http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Chlamydia/Pages/Introduction.aspx

How common is it?

Between 2007 and 2008, the number of confirmed cases of chlamydia rose from 121,791 to 123,018. Young people under 25 are most likely to be infected, 65% (80,258) of all new chlamydia diagnoses made in 2008 were in people between the ages of 16 and 24.

[Undesired Walrus]

What kind of government just assumes that everyone under 25 is a whore slut/cocksman (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksman) with an STD?

Why do you have to be either of those things in order to gain an STD?

[Tatyana]

Why do you have to be either of those things in order to gain an STD?


LOL, very true, next the 'I don't sleep with dirty people' and 'I could tell if someone had an STD' excuse will be posted.

This was just brought to my attention.

Another one of those evil, evil things about socialised health care.

This is how this would work, the NHS lab would find the abnormal result, phone the GP surgery, get the out of hours number, check on the computer for the patient's address and phone number, call the out of hours service, they call the patient, no response, call the police.

What a horrible infringement on your privacy by the government.


Police wake elderly liver patient in middle of night to save her life

http://www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/news/7795268.Police_wake_elderly_liver_patient_in_middl e_of_night_to_save_her_life/

[The Painter]

Why do you have to be either of those things in order to gain an STD?

Nice people don't get STD's;) Promiscuous people get them.

[rjh01]

In order to get an STD you only need one partner.

Avoid STDs. Stay a virgin all your life.

[Damien Evans]

In order to get an STD you only need one partner.

Avoid STDs. Stay a virgin all your life.

worked for me so far.

[volatile]

It's fascinating to see the usual suspects trying to spin this as something *bad*.

Hilarious.

[Undesired Walrus]

Nice people don't get STD's;)

Evidence?

[WildCat]

There is this thing the NHS has been doing over the last decade which is quite innovative, called evidence-based medicine.

Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!! (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Homeopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx)

The NHS has evidence homeopathy works?

[Zep]

Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!! (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Homeopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx)

The NHS has evidence homeopathy works?That was a question.

The answer is: No, it doesn't.

You DID read that page properly, didn't you?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Evidence?

It's self defining. We don't need no stinking evidence! :(

(Or even Summer day fresh evidence.) ;)

[Tatyana]

Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!! (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Homeopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx)

The NHS has evidence homeopathy works?

NICE was formed five years ago.

http://www.nice.org.uk/

The recommendation in the UK is that homeopathy doesn't work and that it should no longer be supported by the NHS.

I suggest you look at the site, it is quite interesting.

You provided a link to NHS direct, not NICE, where they give advice and information on all health topics. No where on the link for homeopathy is any evidence for homeopathy given, just the history and principles of homeopathy, many of which people would not be aware of.

If you notice, there is a video about 'placebo effect' on the link you provided as well.

[WildCat]

That was a question.

The answer is: No, it doesn't.

You DID read that page properly, didn't you?

NICE was formed five years ago.

http://www.nice.org.uk/

The recommendation in the UK is that homeopathy doesn't work and that it should no longer be supported by the NHS.

I suggest you look at the site, it is quite interesting.

You provided a link to NHS direct, not NICE, where they give advice and information on all health topics. No where on the link for homeopathy is any evidence for homeopathy given, just the history and principles of homeopathy, many of which people would not be aware of.

If you notice, there is a video about 'placebo effect' on the link you provided as well.
Does the NHS pay for homeopathy or not?

[Rolfe]

This would be a relevant question if anyone had asserted that everything the NHS does is evidence-based. The campaign to rid the system of this hangover from political pressure in the 1940s (when it was grandfathered in) is seriously hampered by the influence a certain heir to the throne is bringing to bear on the woo side. But progress is being made, Tunbridge Wells is closed with more to follow.

You know, Wildcat, you sound like a woo declaring that homoeopathy (for example) is obviously valid medicine because Big Pharma produced thalidomide.

Rolfe.

[Walter Ego]

This morning I got a package through the post with 'NHS' on the top. Alarmed, I ripped it open, and was pleasently surprised to see that it was a free chlamydia testing kit:

I presume every other person under 25 in the borough, if not the city got this pack, regardless of income.

All I had to do was piss into a tube and send it off, without having to pay for a stamp! All the while I remembered a friend of mine who had to pay £200 for a STD check when they went private.

Thanks Socialised healthcare!

Isn't chlamydia one of those "lady's problems"... as they used to say, euphemistically? :confused:

It's been so long since I've had an STD. :o

[cornsail]

Oh, you meant THOSE death panels.

[Undesired Walrus]

Got a text from the NHS today. 'Test result OK' was the message. Hopefully the OK doesn't stand from something bad.

[WildCat]

This would be a relevant question if anyone had asserted that everything the NHS does is evidence-based. The campaign to rid the system of this hangover from political pressure in the 1940s (when it was grandfathered in) is seriously hampered by the influence a certain heir to the throne is bringing to bear on the woo side. But progress is being made, Tunbridge Wells is closed with more to follow.

You know, Wildcat, you sound like a woo declaring that homoeopathy (for example) is obviously valid medicine because Big Pharma produced thalidomide.

Rolfe.
You ruined my whole setup to bring His Royal Doofus into this thread. :mad:

[ZirconBlue]

Great, now the government wants your pee too! That really pisses me off.


They're out to steal your precious bodily fluids!!!!!

[The Painter]

Evidence?

Did you see the little face like this one ;)?????

You Brits are so defensive of your system, you can't see when someone is kidding. Lighten up. Your system ain't all that great.

[DC]

Did you see the little face like this one ;)?????

You Brits are so defensive of your system, you can't see when someone is kidding. Lighten up. Your system ain't all that great.

better than yours. eat that!

[Architect]

And cheaper, too.

[Agatha]

The thing is, the system here really _is_ "all that great". It's not perfect, but it is, in the most part, well run, effective and efficient.

[Architect]

Apparently, however, we need to "lighten up" about it.:rolleyes:

[lionking]

Ha, we in Oz have a far bester socialised health system than you. So there.

[Fishstick]

Yeah but your country has like the highest concentration of venomous and scary critters per square foot.

Also bogans.

[Undesired Walrus]

Ha, we in Oz have a far bester socialised health system than you. So there.

Yes, but you also have to live there.:duck:

[Dave Rogers]

The thing is, the system here really _is_ "all that great". It's not perfect, but it is, in the most part, well run, effective and efficient.

Tell that to my sister, who's... um... well, actually had life-saving surgery to remove intestinal cancer, is now going on a waiting list for colostomy reversal and hasn't had to pay a penny for any of it.

Yeah, it's not perfect, but it's good enough. I think creating and maintaining the NHS is perhaps the best thing this country has ever done.

Dave

[Rolfe]

Tell that to my cousin's grand-daughter, who.... has had a lot of complex jaw surgery to correct a front tooth that erupted at right angles to its proper position, culminating in a bone graft from her hip to her mouth, and a tooth implant.

Tell that to my cousin herself, who.... has been treated for type II diabetes for the past 20 years, and last year had a hip replacement with a wait time of only 5 weeks.

Tell that to another cousin, who.... is also diabetic and being treated, but who also had complex surgery to replace his oesophagus about 25 years ago.

And another cousin, who has recently had radio-iodine treatment for her hyperthyroidism, and her husband, who has had prostate surgery and is now waiting for carpal tunnel surgery.

And my mother, who can still see (sort of) thanks to 20 years of regular treatment for glaucoma, including two surgeries.

And another cousin (I've got a lot of them....) who has had two knee replacements.

And.... the list goes on and on. The times when the NHS has fallen down can be found all over the newspapers because this is the exception. The innumerable success stories and happy patients just don't get in the papers, because that would be like reporting on every aeroplane that landed safely without crashing.

I agree, it's probably the best thing that's ever happened to this country. All hail Nye Bevan.

Rolfe.

[Undesired Walrus]

I think Agatha is agreeing with you..

[Rolfe]

Oh yes, we're just running with it!

Rolfe.

[Dave Rogers]

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ViolentAgreement

Dave

[uk_dave]

Why do you have to be either of those things in order to gain an STD?

You make it sound like an award. :D

[rjh01]

Yeah but your country has like the highest concentration of venomous and scary critters per square foot.

Also bogans.
Death from animals is very rare in Oz.



Yes, but you also have to live there.:duck:
You can always move to Oz. A great place to live.

[Architect]

You can always move to Oz. A great place to live.

Are you kidding? I hear that you don't sell beer in anything bigger than about 2/3 of a pint. It's called a clipper or a catamaran or a schooner or something.....

[fuelair]

They not only want your urine they demanded my mother's ..er.. faeces under the guise of "Bowel Cancer Screening"!

They are screening for Bowling Cancer now?:jaw-dropp

[Architect]

Having seen what bowling clubs are like, I would have thought it would be some sort of test for alcoholism that was required....

[jimbob]

The thing is, the system here really _is_ "all that great". It's not perfect, but it is, in the most part, well run, effective and efficient.

And there is a difference between debating how a system can better serve every citizen, and proclaiming the superiority of one that is aimed at excluding people.

[Tatyana]

They are screening for Bowling Cancer now?:jaw-dropp


Faecal occult blood.

If you have a positive test, you go for a colonoscopy.


I have to thank the NHS for getting me in for emergency surgery when I ruptured my achilles.

I was at the fracture clinic, they said, come back tomorrow morning, don't eat, I had my surgery by 5 pm the next day.

I stayed in two nights, saw a physio to make sure I could walk on crutches, get up and down stairs, and they let me leave when my friend came to collect me.

I was also diagnosed as being hypothyroid about a year ago, I now see the endocrinology consultant once every six months, and I get all my prescriptions for free.

[ZirconBlue]

Faecal occult blood.

Sounds like an obscure metal band.

[rjh01]

Are you kidding? I hear that you don't sell beer in anything bigger than about 2/3 of a pint. It's called a clipper or a catamaran or a schooner or something.....

You heard wrong. For example we do not sell liquids by the pint. We use the metric system for all sales.

[Architect]

Um, okay, then, something about 330-350ml then. Are you claiming, on the other hand, that you do still normally sell beer in pint/half litre measures? Because you didn't when I was there.....

[rjh01]

Um, okay, then, something about 330-350ml then. Are you claiming, on the other hand, that you do still normally sell beer in pint/half litre measures? Because you didn't when I was there.....

No sorry, you can buy beer in 750ml bottles. I just checked in Woolworths supermarket.

Try this link.
http://www.homeshop.com.au/website/product/product_list.jsp?level1_folder_id=2%2C534%2C374%2C 302%2C037%2C968&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302039427&level2_folder_id=2%2C534%2C374%2C302%2C038%2C157&level3_folder_id=2%2C534%2C374%2C302%2C039%2C427&bmUID=1271668332338

That shows you can get 750ml beer bottles.

[Architect]

I'm talking about pubs. Hell, you can buy mini barrels in supermarkets but no-one mentioned 5 litres.....

[jimbob]

I'm talking about pubs. Hell, you can buy mini barrels in supermarkets but no-one mentioned 5 litres.....

Yes but if first prize in a raffle is 500ml of Fosters*, second prize could be 5-litres





*I am aware that some Australian "beer" is probably OK, and I don't really care if they export rubbish as long as I don't drink it...

[Guybrush Threepwood]

It goes very bad indeed.. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/8630592.stm)*









*I know it's nothing to do with socialized health care, I just thought I'd share.

[Matthew Best]

The GMC was told of another incident in August 2006, when Dr Al Hourani had consulted a colleague and was advised to inject a patient with 10 milligrams (mg) of midazolam, a powerful sedative drug.

He then gave the patient 8mg and injected himself with the other 2mg, the hearing was told.

He sounds like my kind of guy!

[Fishstick]

"One for you, one for me."

[Matthew Best]

And he extends that philosophy to cover testicles too!