View Full Version : Evangelical Scholar Accepts Evolution and is "Expelled"
MattusMaximus
13th April 2010, 08:25 PM
Oh the irony...
http://ncse.com/news/2010/04/evangelical-scholar-expelled-over-evolution-005432
A noted evangelical Old Testament scholar resigned from his faculty position at a seminary in the wake of a controversy over his public acceptance of evolution. On March 24, 2010, a video featuring Bruce Waltke, Professor of Old Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary, was posted on the website of the BioLogos Foundation. (Founded by Francis Collins, the BioLogos Foundation "explores, promotes, and celebrates the integration of science and Christian faith.") Entitled "Why Must the Church Come to Accept Evolution?" the video discussed "the danger that the Church will face if it does not engage with the world around it, in particular by acknowledging the overwhelming amount of data in support of biological evolution, which many evangelicals still reject."
The hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife :rolleyes:
Beanbag
13th April 2010, 08:41 PM
Why are you surprised? This is religion we're talking about. Logic has nothing to do with it. Evidence has nothing to do with it. If it's in the bible, then it's true. No amount of evidence will make them change.
Beanbag
(who's actually met several people who believed that if English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then there's no need for them to learn any other language)
Meadmaker
13th April 2010, 08:46 PM
Oh the irony...
http://ncse.com/news/2010/04/evangelical-scholar-expelled-over-evolution-005432
The hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife :rolleyes:
What's hypocritical or ironic about it?
Stupid, yes, but consistent. What did I miss?
Zep
13th April 2010, 08:54 PM
He went over to the Dark Side... So what else do you think any Jedi warriors would do? They would try to use The ForceTM to launch a massive, loud, sparkly counter-attack.
*cue Attack The Death-star music*
Cavemonster
13th April 2010, 08:55 PM
What's hypocritical or ironic about it?
Stupid, yes, but consistent. What did I miss?
It's a reference to the Ben Stein movie, Expelled, much embraced by enemies of logic and science. A big part of the film was the assertion that the evil liberal elite try to silence the brave, truth-seeking ID proponents by forcing them out of academic positions for their views (even though he doesn't support this assertion very well at all)
Alan
13th April 2010, 08:56 PM
What's hypocritical or ironic about it?
Stupid, yes, but consistent. What did I miss?
I think it's because there was that Expelled polemic.
EDIT: I like this silver medal.
154
13th April 2010, 08:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGCxbhGaVfE
Skeptic Ginger
13th April 2010, 09:30 PM
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Beanbag
(who's actually met several people who believed that if English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then there's no need for them to learn any other language):D
Skeptic Ginger
13th April 2010, 09:32 PM
What's hypocritical or ironic about it?
Stupid, yes, but consistent. What did I miss?The movie, "Expelled". :)
I see this is a redundant post X 4.
Meadmaker
13th April 2010, 10:04 PM
It's a reference to the Ben Stein movie, Expelled, much embraced by enemies of logic and science. A big part of the film was the assertion that the evil liberal elite try to silence the brave, truth-seeking ID proponents by forcing them out of academic positions for their views (even though he doesn't support this assertion very well at all)
Got it. Now I understand.
MattusMaximus
14th April 2010, 09:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGCxbhGaVfE
Ah, a link to the "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" trailer. Agreed, there was no intelligence allowed in that movie :)
So 154, exactly why did you post that link?
MattusMaximus
14th April 2010, 09:35 AM
It's a reference to the Ben Stein movie, Expelled, much embraced by enemies of logic and science. A big part of the film was the assertion that the evil liberal elite try to silence the brave, truth-seeking ID proponents by forcing them out of academic positions for their views (even though he doesn't support this assertion very well at all)
I love how they (these creationist boobs) play the victim card with the huge "Expelled" propoganda campaign, and then they turn around and blatantly take part in the very kind of discrimination they were once decrying - kicking out an evangelical scholar for publicly accepting evolution even after his institution says it "welcomes all views." It's almost as if, in their twisted worldview, that they believe everyone thinks like them - so the ends justify the means. How moral is that?
What a crock of **** :rolleyes:
Kthulhut Fhtagn
14th April 2010, 03:39 PM
Deleted: Whoops! That'll teach me to read the rest of the thread first.
Lucian
14th April 2010, 08:02 PM
Why are you surprised? This is religion we're talking about. Logic has nothing to do with it. Evidence has nothing to do with it. If it's in the bible, then it's true. No amount of evidence will make them change.
Beanbag
(who's actually met several people who believed that if English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then there's no need for them to learn any other language)
From the original Bedazzled:
Stanley: What colour is God?
The Devil (Mr Spiggot): Oh, he's all the colours of the rainbow, many hued.
Stanley: But he is English, isn't he?
The Devil: Oh yes, very upper class.
Dave Rogers
15th April 2010, 02:04 AM
I love how they (these creationist boobs) play the victim card with the huge "Expelled" propoganda campaign, and then they turn around and blatantly take part in the very kind of discrimination they were once decrying - kicking out an evangelical scholar for publicly accepting evolution even after his institution says it "welcomes all views." It's almost as if, in their twisted worldview, that they believe everyone thinks like them - so the ends justify the means.
This seems a general property of woo merchants; they justify their own immoral behaviour by fantasising that it exists in others, and then citing it as the provocation for their own. If you abandon critical self-examination, any behaviour can be rationalised simply by making up the evidence required.
Dave
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