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Grammatron
26th January 2004, 03:27 PM
I keep hearing people say that USA is not doing enough to search for Osama or that we went to Iraq because we couldn't find Osama. I was just curious what can USA do, that it's not doing already, to catch him?

specious_reasons
26th January 2004, 03:34 PM
Aren't there roughly 10 times the number of troops in Iraq than in Afghanistan?

Personally, I would have exerted more effort for nation-building in Afghanistan before committing troops to Iraq.

But I'm not an expert on military strategy.

SRW
26th January 2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by specious_reasons
Aren't there roughly 10 times the number of troops in Iraq than in Afghanistan?

Personally, I would have exerted more effort for nation-building in Afghanistan before committing troops to Iraq.

But I'm not an expert on military strategy.

Except that Osama is not in Afghanistan, Pakistan is where he is hiding. Of course he may not even be there.

From what I have heard recently The Pakistanis, have been trying to find him but for obvious reasons it's done mostly in secret.

WildCat
26th January 2004, 04:30 PM
I think that the Afghanis are 100x more sensitive to foreign troops in their country than Iraq, a massive presence there would likely backfire. And like SRW said, he's likely in the tribal areas of Pakistan anyway.

Pakistan is an extremely delicate situation, the country is barely in Musharef's control and has nukes. You can be sure there's US special ops troops there looking for him, but low in number and very low key. He'll be found eventually, if he doesn't die first (he's in poor health and needs dialysis periodically).

BTox
26th January 2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Grammatron
I keep hearing people say that USA is not doing enough to search for Osama or that we went to Iraq because we couldn't find Osama. I was just curious what can USA do, that it's not doing already, to catch him?

Nothing more than monday-morning quarterbacking - and mostly by people who didn't even support the initial action into Afghanistan.

PygmyPlaidGiraffe
26th January 2004, 06:17 PM
Perhaps we can help the U.S.A. find Osama.


OSAMA is hidden in the following diagram only once. Look for OSAMA in a straight line forward, backward, up, down, or Diagon Alley.



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Segnosaur
27th January 2004, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Grammatron
I keep hearing people say that USA is not doing enough to search for Osama or that we went to Iraq because we couldn't find Osama. I was just curious what can USA do, that it's not doing already, to catch him?

Given the fact that the only "proof" that he's alive consists of garbled audio tapes, and a video of him taking a walk that was probably shot years ago, it could very well be that he is dead. (And given the nature of some of the US bombing efforts, he could easily have been killed, with his remains lost at the bottom of a crater.)

Even if he wasn't dead, the type of efforts needed to find bin Laden are better performed by groups like the CIA or special ops; I doubt large-scale military actions (like those in Iraq) would really be of much use in finding him.

DavidJames
27th January 2004, 09:17 AM
Nothing more than monday-morning quarterbacking - and mostly by people who didn't even support the initial action into Afghanistan
Evidence, names? I supported the initial action and I am very curious why GWB no longer mentions him. He once said he want's OBL "dead or alive" now it's zip, or terrorism is bigger than one man or some other such spin. I agree that getting OBL isn't going to end terrorism but I can't help but think GWB hasn't mentioned him because he doesn't want anyone to remember the main target(s) in the "initial action" have gone missing.

Hexxenhammer
27th January 2004, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by PygmyPlaidGiraffe
Perhaps we can help the U.S.A. find Osama.


OSAMA is hidden in the following diagram only once. Look for OSAMA in a straight line forward, backward, up, down, or Diagon Alley.



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Grammatron
27th January 2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by DavidJames

Evidence, names? I supported the initial action and I am very curious why GWB no longer mentions him. He once said he want's OBL "dead or alive" now it's zip, or terrorism is bigger than one man or some other such spin. I agree that getting OBL isn't going to end terrorism but I can't help but think GWB hasn't mentioned him because he doesn't want anyone to remember the main target(s) in the "initial action" have gone missing.

Does he need to talk none-stop about him in every speech --which are few and far between -- he makes? And who really forgot that we are still looking for Osama aside from people with memory problems? People keep saying these things as if we are purposefully not doing enough to find him.

Luke T.
27th January 2004, 10:14 AM
Sylvia Browne said Osama is dead, and that is good enough for me.

He could be working in a 7-11 in Hillary's hometown.

Save your soda tabs and donate them for Osama's kidney dialysis.