How big is the U.S. Dept of Defense's budget ?

[h.g.Whiz]

How big is the U.S. Dept of Defense's budget ?

[drkitten]

How big is the U.S. Dept of Defense's budget ?

$663.7 billion in FY 2010

[h.g.Whiz]

What about the Dept of Homeland Security's budget ?

[Tailgater]

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=How+big+is+the+U.S.+Dept+of+Defense%27s+budget+% 3F&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=633a2c524d3449a9

[Tailgater]

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[drkitten]

What about the Dept of Homeland Security's budget ?

Have you seen this link (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=united+states+federal+budget+2010) before?

[Tailgater]

Do your own homework.

[Tailgater]

Have you seen this link (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=united+states+federal+budget+2010) before?

haha, i was looking for that.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

How big is the U.S. Dept of Defense's budget ?

As big as it needs to be.

[daenku32]

How big is the U.S. Dept of Defense's budget ?

Average size, for an imperialist.

[h.g.Whiz]

As big as it needs to be.


I guess the more people you piss off, the bigger the budget has to be.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I guess the more people you piss off, the bigger the budget has to be.

Maybe. Maybe not.

[Tailgater]

I guess the more people you piss off, the bigger the budget has to be.

So, still no point 12 posts later?

[The True Scotsman]

Average size, for an imperialist.

How do you justify calling the US an imperial country in the 21st century?

[h.g.Whiz]

So, still no point 12 posts later?

I read in the newspaper (BELO) that had a graph of the U.S. budget. The dept. of defense had a footnote that said that the total money spent by dept. of defense is unknown.

I am trying to figure out what our security costs are. According to Ron Paul, its about a trillion.

Am I on the right track?
Dept. of Defense 663.7 billion + 12.7 % = 747.98
Dept. of Veteran Affairs 52.5 billion + 10.3 % = 56.9 billion
Dept. of Homeland Security 42.7 billion + 1.2% = 43.2 billion

848.08 billion

[paximperium]

I read in the newspaper (BELO) that had a graph of the U.S. budget. The dept. of defense had a footnote that said that the total money spent by dept. of defense is unknown.

I am trying to figure out what our security costs are. According to Ron Paul, its about a trillion.

Am I on the right track?
Dept. of Defense 663.7 billion + 12.7 % = 747.98
Dept. of Veteran Affairs 52.5 billion + 10.3 % = 56.9 billion
Dept. of Homeland Security 42.7 billion + 1.2% = 43.2 billion

848.08 billion
What the heck are those percentages being pulled from?

[h.g.Whiz]

What the heck are those percentages being pulled from?


Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget)

[drkitten]

What the heck are those percentages being pulled from?

H.g. can't read for comprehension.

The DoD budget, for example, is $663.7 billion for FY 2010 . This represents a +12.7% change from FY 2009. (Similarly, TARP is getting $0 billion for FY2010, which represents a -100.0% change from FY 2009, because they're not spending anything on TARP this year.)

H.g. is misreading the numbers and assuming that the percentage represents the increase for FY 2011 over 2010.

[Darth Rotor]

FWIW, and as a point of comparison, perhaps not pure: in 1970 Def Budget about 40% of gov't spengovernment spendingding (we had an unpopular war on then as well) and 2010 Def Budget is about 21% of government spending.

Numbers from a recent Newsweek article. The paper copy article had more in it that the online excerpt. Hmmmm. :(

h.g.: what is the point of your question? Has Ron Paul got you upset at something?

[lomiller]

H.g. can't read for comprehension.

The DoD budget, for example, is $663.7 billion for FY 2010 . This represents a +12.7% change from FY 2009.

A little bit of a nitpick I suppose, but the main reason for this increase is that Iraq/Afghanistan war costs were unfunded in 2009, but are included under DoD spending in 2010. IOW this increase is a function of accounting practices, not a real increase in defense spending.

[drkitten]

A little bit of a nitpick I suppose, but the main reason for this increase is that Iraq/Afghanistan war costs were unfunded in 2009, but are included under DoD spending in 2010. IOW this increase is a function of accounting practices, not a real increase in defense spending.

But the real issue at hand here is that h.g. confused the 2009-10 increase with the 2010-11 one. No government budget is completely stable from year to year, nor should it be -- governments should be able to react to events; that's their job. Doesn't bother me that wars start and stop, but one should be able to read a budget sheet well enough to tell the difference.....

[lomiller]

But the real issue at hand here is that h.g. confused the 2009-10 increase with the 2010-11 one.

I don’t disagree that is what he was doing and that it was a mistake. He seems to be trying to get a handle on how much defense spending is growing in addition to how much it is in total in which case I think both points are important.

[SonOfLaertes]

I don’t disagree that is what he was doing and that it was a mistake. He seems to be trying to get a handle on how much defense spending is growing in addition to how much it is in total in which case I think both points are important.

But it is a mistake, since the +12.7% for 2010 is really a function of the Iraq/Afghan war "funding", as per above, and is therefore not a predictor of the 2011 budget.