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Undesired Walrus
28th April 2010, 03:17 AM
I don't know if anyone got the education supplement in the Guardian the other day but the stats shocked me. After hovering around without increasing for most of the 80's, it dramatically increased each year in real terms since 1997.

How did they afford this?

Darat
28th April 2010, 06:07 AM
The growth in the economy and borrowing.

Undesired Walrus
28th April 2010, 06:11 AM
Did the Conservatives have as strong an economy towards their end?

Giz
28th April 2010, 09:08 AM
I don't know if anyone got the education supplement in the Guardian the other day but the stats shocked me. After hovering around without increasing for most of the 80's, it dramatically increased each year in real terms since 1997.

How did they afford this?

Have you seen the deficit?

Another question might be:

Given the way the UK's rankings in science/maths education has fallen relative to our international competitors, was the money being spent efficiently?

Darat
28th April 2010, 09:51 AM
Have you seen the deficit?

Another question might be:

Given the way the UK's rankings in science/maths education has fallen relative to our international competitors, was the money being spent efficiently?

The first generation of school kids who can be said to have been schooled under the Labour "funding" haven't left school yet.

Giz
28th April 2010, 10:44 AM
The first generation of school kids who can be said to have been schooled under the Labour "funding" haven't left school yet.

You're right, we mustn't leap to conclusions - they have only been in power 13 years.

Jaggy Bunnet
28th April 2010, 11:52 AM
I don't know if anyone got the education supplement in the Guardian the other day but the stats shocked me. After hovering around without increasing for most of the 80's, it dramatically increased each year in real terms since 1997.

How did they afford this?

They can't. They have borrowed billions and have no idea of how we are going to repay this.

Darat
29th April 2010, 02:53 AM
You're right, we mustn't leap to conclusions - they have only been in power 13 years.

Whoever said that - I just pointed out the flaw in your argument i.e. that it is Labour polices that have resulted in the "UK's rankings in science/maths education has fallen relative to our international competitors".

commandlinegamer
29th April 2010, 03:45 AM
PPP: having business build and maintain new schools and paying them back over many decades.

quixotecoyote
29th April 2010, 10:51 AM
Whoever said that - I just pointed out the flaw in your argument i.e. that it is Labour polices that have resulted in the "UK's rankings in science/maths education has fallen relative to our international competitors".

When it takes a 13 year cycle to see results, most of us with 70 year lifespans aren't going to wait through that many cycles. :)

Francesca R
30th April 2010, 11:21 PM
The investment in education (which has produced mediocre results) and health (which has produced good results) were both paid for by running large structural budget deficits (borrowing). As long as the economy grew strongly, this was offset by cyclical surpluses and so it never showed up alarmingly in the government balance.

Unfortunately, because the economy was leveraged into a global expansion of credit that involved a massive and concentrated mis-allocation of productive resources, the cyclical support for the UK's public financing vanished and reversed extremely abruptly in 2008 and 2009. And growth and tax really can't close the gap from here on.