Crossbow
28th February 2003, 10:29 AM
Full Title: The Legality of Forcing Kids to Salute the Flag, Recite the Pledge of Allegiance, and Hold 2 Minutes of Silence
Anyway, as many of you may be aware, one of the newest JREF Members, Jedi Knight recently stated:
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
All children in schools, even in colleges, should mandatorily salute the American flag and conduct the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag every morning.
Now for the reasons why it is the correct thing to do.
Leftists will tell all Americans that they should pay taxes for their social agendas because "America" provides the "venue" to make money. It is the "state" that provides the "stability" for "the people" to make money.
Well, using that logic, all children should salute the flag at 5:45 AM every morning for two minutes in silence, and then say the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag right after in perfect, undistracted and disciplined unison.
Why? Well the "state", using "tax-payer money" is providing those children the "stable venue" to go to school so they can be adults and then "pay taxes" for the social leftist programs that leftists say the "state" provides "stability" for.
That is why. Not to do it is hypocritical. The only exemptions should be institutions of learning that receive no US tax-payer money.
JK
Originally, my main problem was his posting was what is one to do with children that will not properly recite the pledge, give a bad salute, refuse to do it, and so on? JK never did give a good answer to this question and so I thought, "Oh well! That is that.".
However, in the thread he started I noticed a few people debating the legality of such a law, and it got me thinking that they are right because my concerns are moot! If a law was actually passed that fitted his outline, then it would soon be struck down by the courts since the law did not have anything to do with interstate commerce. Essentially, every law that is passed at the federal level is supposed to tie into interstate commerce in some way, and if it does not, then the law does not pass legal muster and is tossed out.
I think there was a case a few years ago involving this point where the US Congress passed a law concerning firearms near schools. The courts threw out the law since it had anything to do with interstate commerce. Sorry, it has been a while and I cannot remember the specifics.
In any event, I just wanted to point out this fact and I would welcome any comments.
Thanks much!
In the U.S. Constitution (Art. I, sec. 8), the authorization for Congress "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with Indian Tribes."
Anyway, as many of you may be aware, one of the newest JREF Members, Jedi Knight recently stated:
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
All children in schools, even in colleges, should mandatorily salute the American flag and conduct the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag every morning.
Now for the reasons why it is the correct thing to do.
Leftists will tell all Americans that they should pay taxes for their social agendas because "America" provides the "venue" to make money. It is the "state" that provides the "stability" for "the people" to make money.
Well, using that logic, all children should salute the flag at 5:45 AM every morning for two minutes in silence, and then say the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag right after in perfect, undistracted and disciplined unison.
Why? Well the "state", using "tax-payer money" is providing those children the "stable venue" to go to school so they can be adults and then "pay taxes" for the social leftist programs that leftists say the "state" provides "stability" for.
That is why. Not to do it is hypocritical. The only exemptions should be institutions of learning that receive no US tax-payer money.
JK
Originally, my main problem was his posting was what is one to do with children that will not properly recite the pledge, give a bad salute, refuse to do it, and so on? JK never did give a good answer to this question and so I thought, "Oh well! That is that.".
However, in the thread he started I noticed a few people debating the legality of such a law, and it got me thinking that they are right because my concerns are moot! If a law was actually passed that fitted his outline, then it would soon be struck down by the courts since the law did not have anything to do with interstate commerce. Essentially, every law that is passed at the federal level is supposed to tie into interstate commerce in some way, and if it does not, then the law does not pass legal muster and is tossed out.
I think there was a case a few years ago involving this point where the US Congress passed a law concerning firearms near schools. The courts threw out the law since it had anything to do with interstate commerce. Sorry, it has been a while and I cannot remember the specifics.
In any event, I just wanted to point out this fact and I would welcome any comments.
Thanks much!
In the U.S. Constitution (Art. I, sec. 8), the authorization for Congress "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with Indian Tribes."