"Dinosaur coexisted with man, pics included" From Christianity.com

[plindboe]

I found this thread kinda funny, and wanted to share it:

http://forums.christianity.com/html/P847599/

The Incan pots looks like forgeries to me, but I haven't really investigated any of this "evidence" further yet.

Maybe some here have seen it before, and have the explanations ready. Maybe our bad archeology expert has some ideas. ;)

I especially find the "Science & origins" board over there to be hilarious, and it would be fun to see more skeptics over there to help with the debunking.

[cbish]

I work with a fundie who got all excited a few years back with that stupid Charleton Heston "documentary" about the human & dinosaur foot prints in Texas.:rolleyes:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Needless to say, he does provide alot of entertainment.

I liked the hand print! Convincing!!:D

[El Greco]

The evidence is out there for everyone who's willing to search for it. Two words: "Jurassic Park".

[Deetee]

Originally posted by plindboe
I found this thread kinda funny, and wanted to share it:

http://forums.christianity.com/html/P847599/

The Incan pots looks like forgeries to me, but I haven't really investigated any of this "evidence" further yet.



I can visualise my son's doodlings being unearthed in a few hundred years time:
"Golly, look! Proof that humans have 3 eyes!"

[plindboe]

I have signed up and posted a reply now. Would be great if some other skeptics would join the debate, or I would sure feel lonely. :p

[MRC_Hans]

I'm tempted, but I'm busy bashing homeopaths right now.

Hans

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by plindboe
I found this thread kinda funny, and wanted to share it:

http://forums.christianity.com/html/P847599/

The Incan pots looks like forgeries to me, but I haven't really investigated any of this "evidence" further yet.

Maybe some here have seen it before, and have the explanations ready. Maybe our bad archeology expert has some ideas. ;)

I especially find the "Science & origins" board over there to be hilarious, and it would be fun to see more skeptics over there to help with the debunking. Those pots are famous forgeries. I might sign up and join you.

[Dragonrock]

I'm there, I'm not sure how much help I'll be, but I'll try.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Those pots are famous forgeries. I might sign up and join you.
Originally posted by Dragonrock
I'm there, I'm not sure how much help I'll be, but I'll try.

Great!!! :D

Also remember to check out some of the other threads on that forum. Especially that moses guy is quite the fanatic, with a gross misunderstanding of evolution, so he is in dire need to be straightened out with some facts.

[Martin]

*sigh*

Ah, why not? I'm already debating the same topic at four or five other boards, after all :D

I'm there. What usernames are you guys using?

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by Martin
I'm there. What usernames are you guys using?

I'm still me, I'm always me. I've never seen me used anyplace else.

[Hexxenhammer]

Ok. I signed up over there and browsed around some of those evolution threads. Those people are all idiots. This is a representative post:
There is no such thing as neandethals or however u spell em, they are not human!!! they are apes, scientists were ashamed to tell the world that the skulls of neanderthals were really skulls of apes!!! Christ on a bike...

It almost sounds like !Rational! trolling a x-ian board.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Martin
*sigh*

Ah, why not? I'm already debating the same topic at four or five other boards, after all :D

I'm there. What usernames are you guys using? Martin, I've seen you on other boards and your patience is Job-like. I can't believe you can stand looking at the garbage most of those people spew.

I'm Hexxenhammer over there too. We'll see if I can manage to bring myself to post knowing it's like throwing tomatoes at an M-1 tank.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Martin, I've seen you on other boards and your patience is Job-like. I can't believe you can stand looking at the garbage most of those people spewThanks. It helps to know my efforts don't go entirely unappreciated :)

My username at christianity.com is Kibagami Jubei. It's the only name I use other than this one.

[LFTKBS]

When, oh when, will they just drink their rapture Kool-Aid?

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Ok. I signed up over there and browsed around some of those evolution threads. Those people are all idiots. This is a representative post:

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There is no such thing as neandethals or however u spell em, they are not human!!! they are apes, scientists were ashamed to tell the world that the skulls of neanderthals were really skulls of apes!!!
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Christ on a bike...

It almost sounds like !Rational! trolling a x-ian board.

Haha! Yes, it really sounds like our own rational troll. Same as this one:

I know evloution is a lie because Jesus told me the truth. All you have to do is pray and Jesus will tell you the truth. You don't need a PhD for Jesus to tell you which is why christrains are smarter than athiest scientists.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Martin
*sigh*

Ah, why not? I'm already debating the same topic at four or five other boards, after all :D

I'm there. What usernames are you guys using?

Great!! :D

I'm also plindboe there. I have only made two posts so far though. There's a wealth of stuff to reply to, so it's hard to know where to start. ;)

[Jas]

Posting in the S & O section of Christianity.com, can be quite weary. Especially since that Moses guy showed up. What a wierdo. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.

(same username over there)

[Yahweh]

Its impossible for Incans to bury pots and humans down at the level of Createceous soil, its so utterly impossible...

Forgeries are impossible too, it would disprove our evidence if it was forgeries, so its obviously not!



Yeah yeah yeah, that is a miserable group of people. They believe Evilution is created to disprove God, they believe the Earth is 6000 years old when there is absolutely no single Ed damned reason to believe so (plenty Ed damned reasons to believe the Earth is 4.5 billion years old).

I like this particular refutation of evidence:
wow one site!!! pretty interesting!!! I'm looking forward to it, hahah!!!

I think this is clear evidence that the person who has made this comment has never once made an effort to pursue any outside reading.


Good work, Plindboe and Dragonrock.

[MRC_Hans]

OK; I'm tired of the homeopaths (and vice versa ;) ), so I signed up (as MRC_Hans, of course). Now, lessee.... :D

Hans

[Graham]

Originally posted by Martin
Thanks. It helps to know my efforts don't go entirely unappreciated :)

My username at christianity.com is Kibagami Jubei. It's the only name I use other than this one.

Quit knocking my picture, Martin

stupid free image hosting service

Graham (ggporter)

[BillyJoe]

Hans,

I scanned through this thread for a big juicy portion, but you have gone and done the dirty :(

BillyJoe
(Now, where can I suck on some tidbits)

[BillyJoe]

.....oops, I see, you've all gone off to another forum :D

[plindboe]

Here's a genius explaining how the dinosaurs became extinct:

here is a theory iv heard and i beleive it
okay, theres this big huge type of atmosphere of moisture, like another layer,
it cleanses the air and stuff and causes people to live longer-allows them to live longer.
anywyas, when the flood happneed, it was that layer that came down, then what happened was, you know how when you get in a shower with the plastic doors, after your done its moist and hot? but yer like freezing after you get out, i think it could of been like this but more extreme causing a large amount of animals to die,(mabey a slight ice age?)
and mabey it was just they became exticnt by man killing them off lots.

This guy should write some creation science books.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by plindboe
Here's a genius explaining how the dinosaurs became extinct:



This guy should write some creation science books.

Maybe he's from Georgia (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34709)

[Mark]

I have posted this before, but it bears repeating. it's a great site for sources to refute some of these silly Christian archeological claims.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/index.html

[Correa Neto]

There's a simple way to give creationists problems with the smashed trilobite.

-Lets remember that trilobites usually were benthonic critters. Now, any water depth beyond say, 1.8 meters would have made quite hard for anyone to step on the poor arthropod... And trilobites usually are found in deposits of deeper waters (don't ask, I don't know the average depths).

Wait, I know, it was a miracle! Or perhaps it was a antediluvian scuba diver.

[Eos of the Eons]

I'll just cheer you guys on. There are loons on this board who think they are smarter than anyone else on the planet that need to learn what evidence means.

[Checkmite]

Stretch, yawn. (http://forums.christianity.com/?do=post_view_flat;post=847599;page=3;sb=post_late st_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;) :teacher:

[Eos of the Eons]

Egads, pictures included, lol!!
When are the morons gonna learn we didn't "evolve from" monkeys. Sure, we have a common monkiesh ancestors, but modern monkeys were hardly walking around when that ancestor was.



Bah.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Mark
I have posted this before, but it bears repeating. it's a great site for sources to refute some of these silly Christian archeological claims.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/index.html
I've been using that list for months, I usually use information from it a few times a day, it is a very good resource.

Five out of five smilies
:) :) :) :) :)

[DarkMagician]

MY GOD!
The stupidity in that message board is amazing!

[EternalUniverse]

If the goal is to convince people about the merits of the evolutionary theory, then it doesn't help to be condescending. I'm not saying anyone from this board has done this, but I have seen examples of condescending behavior towards the Bible thumpers. All this does is make them run back to their Bible. Basic human nature here, folks. :)

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
Egads, pictures included, lol!!
When are the morons gonna learn we didn't "evolve from" monkeys. Sure, we have a common monkiesh ancestors, but modern monkeys were hardly walking around when that ancestor was.

Bah.

You and I didn't evolve from Monkeys. However, I have my doubt about young earth christians. :)

[plindboe]

Originally posted by corplinx
You and I didn't evolve from Monkeys. However, I have my doubt about young earth christians. :)

I have the same impression. The two monkeys to the left is almost a perfect description of young earthers ignoring evidence, unfortunately this group is also quite vocal so the monkey to the right doesn't really fit into the picture.

http://www.hafdis.dk/pictures/silly/animals/The%203%20monkeys.jpg

[neutrino_cannon]

Look at those things that they claim to be "dinosaurs". Jeezus, for starters, in the first picture, this "thing" which I suppose is supposed to be a therapod has five equal length fingers. Wrong! With the exception of the very earliest (e.g. herrerasaurus, eoraptor) which have four fingers, and the tyrannnosaursids which have two, all therapods have three fingers. Furthermore, all the fingers are of diferent length, the innermost being the longest.

The teeth are not recurved, which would be harder to draw on a pot, but still, therapods don't have straight teeth, with the exception of spinosaurs. Furthermore, although the upper teeth of therapod jaws always bear the longer teeth, therapod jaws bear teeth upper and lower, with the exception of oviraptors and kin (the sceintific name of the group is unspellable, forget all about pronouncing it).

Th shape of the head is all wrong, and the arms attach in the wrong place. The animal is plantigrade, all therapods, screw it, all dinosaurs are digitagrade. Furthermore, the animal lacks nostrils. I suppose that's why they went exticnt; they couldn't breathe!

The second pot shows an animal that looks to be a rough cross between a sauropod and a stegosaur. No such animal ever existed, by the late jurassic when the earth was crawling with stegosaurs and sauropods, the saurischian and ornithischian groups had long diverged.

The animal is shown without teeth, but both sauropods and stegsaurs had dentation visiable from outside he head. Furthermore, unlike ornithopods, they both lacked lips.

Well, so much for a perfect depiction of dinosaurs.

I realize that human depictions of animals, especially prehistoric ones, are often charicatures of the animals in question, these mistakes are just plain silly. Nobody would draw lips where there are none, nor would anybody draw a completely different leg structure if they had seen the animal.

In artwork that does feature such mistakes, the artist has not got a good look at the animal. This looks to me like somebody making a drawing of a dinosaur fighting a person when they're drawing a dinosaur from memory. Jeezus, if you're gonna make a hoax, make a good one.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by EternalUniverse
If the goal is to convince people about the merits of the evolutionary theory, then it doesn't help to be condescending. I'm not saying anyone from this board has done this, but I have seen examples of condescending behavior towards the Bible thumpers. All this does is make them run back to their Bible. Basic human nature here, folks. :)

Absolutely, bash em here, but not there. Vent here and don't be condescending there.

I just don't bother anymore, haven't the energy. I'll cheer the others on though.:)