Ten Angels Save Little Girl

[Brown]

Here is a story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune (http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4345785.html). One of the big stories yesterday concerned a little girl who exited a school bus and then got run over by the bus. The little girl was injured, but survived. Today, she tells the following account:"The angels were with me, they keepded me safe," Brittany, a kindergartner at St. Mary of the Lake School, said Wednesday night. "If the angels weren't with me, I wouldn't be alive."

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"She said the angels saved her," Tim Hutchinson [the girl's father] said Wednesday, keeping his arms wrapped tightly around his daughter. "It was one of the first things she said."

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"It could have been a lot worse," Hutchinson said. "Why didn't she get run over? There's no explanation for that.

"We're a Christian household, but we don't really emphasize angels. We believe in them but not to the point where we hammer it home. We believed before this, but now . . . we have her home, and that's all the proof we need."

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Once under the bus, Brittany said, she saw 10 angels. She doesn't remember details, except for what she says they told her.

"They said they would always be upon me," Brittany said while holding a balloon, one of the numerous gifts she received Wednesday.As we all know, little children never lie. We can probably expect that this incident will be trumpeted as "proof" of the existence of angels. Curiously, more than one angel was involved in this particular task.

Although this incident might be interpreted as validating Christianity for this family, the family still finds one aspect of Christian teaching to be troubling:The Hutchinsons said they will find it hard to forgive the driver for leaving their daughter after hitting her.

"As Christians we're supposed to be compassionate toward other people, but I'm having a hard time with that," Tim Hutchinson said. "He left her there. I'm trying to wrap my mind around the concept . . . and I can't."

[Suezoled]

Yeah... children don't lie like ***** doesn't stink.

[DarkMagician]

I'm sorry if I'm beating someone to this, but:

I like kids, even though I can't seem to finish one.

[Skeptical Greg]

" How many angels does it take to pull a kid out from under a bus? "

" Just one.. But sometimes, as many as nine others will just hang around to watch... "

[zakur]

I am so happy that them angels keepded that girl from getting killded when she got runnded over by that bus.

[Upchurch]

Well, darn it! School buses are heavy! It must've taken eight of them to lift the stupid thing, one to maneuver the kid, and one just to coordinate the whole thing so that it didn't look like devine intervention to anyone else besides the girl.

They must've planned this for months. That's the only explination why they weren't ready for the earthquake in Bam.

[El Greco]

I have more info on this:

The angels were hanging out at the time (playing pool across the street), when one of them spotted a company of imps trying to throw the bus on the little girl. The observant angel quickly summoned his friends and all of them rushed at the scene, shouting to the imps "what the f*ck do you think you're doing ?" The ruffian imps wouldn't dare to fight the angels, especially since 3 turtle ninjas also appeared unexpectedly. They quickly got on their motorbikes and disappeared, although one angel was able to see at least one plate number. Alas, it was too late; the bus was already on the poor young girl... quickly, 7 angels, 3 turtle ninjas, 1 bartender, 2 policemen and 3 passing prostitutes grabbed the bus and managed to lift it. The little girl was taken to the hospital while everybody else went to the police station to testify.

This is the whole story.

[Chaos]

I wonder how many other angels it took to get the girl run over by the bus in the first place...

[Skeptical Greg]

From the story..
"It could have been a lot worse," Hutchinson said. "Why didn't she get run over? There's no explanation for that.

Oh yes there is... And it's not ' Angels '...

[Keziah Mason]

Personally, I like heartwarming stories of Cthulhu saving the little children.

...in case he gets hungry later.

[VicDaring]

Originally posted by Chaos
I wonder how many other angels it took to get the girl run over by the bus in the first place...

Good point. Why didn't these angels stop the incident from happening in the first place. It would have required a lot less heavy lifting. What were they on a smoke break?

And I bet the paramedics, ER docs & nurses, and others are pleased to learn none of their training, hard work, and dedication were really necessary here. The angles had this one.

[tamiO]

Originally posted by Brown
Here is a story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune (http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4345785.html). As we all know, little children never lie. We can probably expect that this incident will be trumpeted as "proof" of the existence of angels. Curiously, more than one angel was involved in this particular task.



I think it's possible that the girl experienced this, but it's not prove angels exist. It would be the type of comforting hallucination/visions that her brain would produce, given the imagery that she has been raised on.

[zakur]

Originally posted by tamiO
I think it's possible that the girl experienced this, but it's not prove angels exist. It would be the type of comforting hallucination/visions that her brain would produce, given the imagery that she has been raised on. Combined with the significant rap she took to the noggin.

It's funny, though, that if she had said she was rescued by 10 Care Bears, it would have been scoffed at as a child's hallucination. But angels...yup, that's plausible. :rolleyes:

[tamiO]

Originally posted by zakur


It's funny, though, that if she had said she was rescued by 10 Care Bears, it would have been scoffed at as a child's hallucination. But angels...yup, that's plausible. :rolleyes:

There are many children out there, being raised by new agey pseudo christians, that are literally being brainwashed into experiencing all sorts of encounters with angels.

Here are some stories for you. Imagine you are a new agey woman with little children...

Amanda
11 1/2 years old
Kentucky

Here is my angel story. I have not really seen my gardian angels but I have herd them. They told me there names and that I will always be in their hands. They sometimes still talk to me. I hear them just behind the outside of my ear.

My gardian angels name is Ashely. She is very nice and the best part of it is that she will allways be at my side. I will allways remember the first time she spoke to me I was speechless but now I am not so scared.

P.S. I never told anybody about this but I told you because you have lots of experiances(or however you spell that word) with angels.

source: http://angelscribe.com/children.html

[zakur]

Apparently, it's no use being a skeptic. According tothis site (http://www.sharingourspirits.com/Angels.htm):Angels don't disappear, even if you try to ignore their existence.:rolleyes: (Jeez, my eyes are getting tired.)

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Suezoled
Yeah... children don't lie like ***** doesn't stink.

Anyone who ever told you that children don't lie apparently never had children. Mind you, this assessment comes from a father of three, an uncle of 13(going on 14), someone who really likes children, and someone whose children are pretty honest. However, even the most honest children will lie from time to time, as will any adult for that matter.

I think this case, though, isn't about whether children will lie so much as it is about the fact that really young children sometimes have trouble telling the difference between fantasy and reality. The kid in the article is in Kindergarten, which is a prime age for that behavior, old enough to come up with elaborate fantasies, young enough to confuse them for real memories. Her parents may well be telling the truth that, though religious, they didn't emphasize angels in her upbringing, but that doesn't mean that angels didn't capture her imagination. Add a stressful incident like being hit by a car, and voila, an angel anecdote is born.

[Zep]

Well, let's have a look at what we REALLY have here, shall we? And I think we can come to a fairly satisfactory explanation that accords with the facts we know.

According to the article, the girl was crossing over the road in front of the bus, and the driver drove forward, knocked the girl over and the bus went over her. Apart from the driver's competence being in question, I can imagine that it IS hard to see a short girl right on the front bumper of the bus - she would be almost out of view. However...

The story and the photo both show clearly that the girl suffered a big bump to the head - she had 12 stitches put in a gash on her forehead. The story says the other girls saw her on the ground bleeding and incoherent. Clearly she was in a state of shock and not entirely rational, due to this injury.

She was then taken to hospital and stitches put in, and other nursing done. This would have been travel via an ambulance, hence the "floating" or "flying" feeling, and procedures done in a hospital theatre, possibly an ER, all the time surrounded by many people looking down at her, talking to her, trying to comfort and help her. To a young girl who is scared and hurting and dazed and out-of-time, this would have been quite reasonably an "apparition of 10 angels".

And it was only after she got treatment and the parents arrived that she came up with the "Angel" story. So I suggest she was telling the truth as she understood it.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Zep
And it was only after she got treatment and the parents arrived that she came up with the "Angel" story. So I suggest she was telling the truth as she understood it.
Unfortunately, I dont have the optimism to assume this girl hallucinated the event.

I think its very probable she was lying, but not in a way designed to be hurtful or decietful, just a pleasant little story she could tell.

How many people would say in kindergarten they never invented the old "I'm an alien from another galaxy" routine? Or perhaps, way back in the days of your junior high years, you would invent stories midconversation with your friends, just to have something to say.

I dont have much faith in the absolute honesty of kindergarteners these days...

[Zep]

Possibly, Yahweh, possibly. But if you were a tiny kid who took a solid whack to the head, enough to make you incoherent, wouldn't this look like a bunch of angel-like people to you?

http://www.fejh.org/images/St.%20Joseph's/stjoeor.jpg

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Zep
Possibly, Yahweh, possibly. But if you were a tiny kid who took a solid whack to the head, enough to make you incoherent, wouldn't this look like a bunch of angel-like people to you?
I would very much have to say yes.

[optimism/metaphor]

Doctors, though they may not be angels, they certainly are miracle workers :)

[/optimism/metaphor]

[Zep]

Originally posted by Yahweh
[optimism/metaphor]

Doctors, though they may not be angels, they certainly are miracle workers :)

[/optimism/metaphor] Big tick.

[Chaos]

I just remembered that, when I was about the age of this girl, I was run over by a bicycle.

Shouldn´t I have seen, proportionally speaking, at least a single, tiny angel? :D


Oh, well, to be serious again, my (figurative) money is on Zep´s idea.

[Wile E. Coyote]

The Hutchinsons said they will find it hard to forgive the driver for leaving their daughter after hitting her.

"As Christians we're supposed to be compassionate toward other people, but I'm having a hard time with that," Tim Hutchinson said. "He left her there. I'm trying to wrap my mind around the concept . . . and I can't."

Yes, I'm sure that the driver deliberately hit the child and left her there to bleed to death. Honestly, don't these people stop to think that perhaps the little girl did not follow the rule of passing far enough in front of the bus to see the driver? He most likely had no idea he hit anything.

But they are still going to have a hard time forgiving him for maliciously trying to kill their daughter.

Please.

[Wile E. Coyote]

You know, maybe it is all part of some angel agenda. Angels have been out of the spotlight lately, replaced by aliens and energies. Maybe one of these angels pushed the girl in front of the bus so they could all be heroes.

I mean, honestly, it must be pretty boring to follow a five year old girl around for her entire life. They've got to be thinking, "God! Something's gotta happen!".

[Brown]

Originally posted by Wile E. Coyote
Yes, I'm sure that the driver deliberately hit the child and left her there to bleed to death. Honestly, don't these people stop to think that perhaps the little girl did not follow the rule of passing far enough in front of the bus to see the driver? He most likely had no idea he hit anything.

But they are still going to have a hard time forgiving him for maliciously trying to kill their daughter.Apparently the parents are reacting emotionally, as other parents react. I am familiar with many incidents in which a child was was injured by the carelessness of another, and the parents react at first as though the injury was caused intentionally. Intellectually, they know that the other part "didn't mean to do it," but their emotion causes them to react otherwise.

I expect that, if pressed, the little girl's parents would admit that the school bus incident was not the result of intentional wrongdoing. But I also expect that they would still be angry. After all, the carelessness of others would make me angry, too, especially if that carelessness led to an injury and could have caused a death.

I see a lot of school buses in my neighborhood, and most of them have these little rails on the front bumper that swing out, preventing kids from crossing closely in front of the bus. Many of the drivers also appear to "count kids," making sure all of the kids who got off are visible to the driver before the driver moves forward (making it a major inconvenience for a motorist to be caught behind a school bus in a residential neighborhood). I wonder whether the driver of the bus in question had one of these little bumper rails, or whether he counted kids. The news reports really don't give enough information to assess whether the driver was careless or departed from standard procedures.

At this stage, I can't fault the parents for being upset.

[headscratcher4]

WHile not begrudging the little one her angel escorts, one wonders whether a couple of them thar angels could have saved some other endangered lives at that moment...

[alfaniner]

How many angels can dance on a pinhead?

[Brown]

Originally posted by headscratcher4
WHile not begrudging the little one her angel escorts, one wonders whether a couple of them thar angels could have saved some other endangered lives at that moment... Headlines from today's Star Tribune (http://www.startribune.com/):

"Deceit and grief: Con man charged in killing"
"Body of Minnesota soldier found in Iraq"
"Meth may have played role in mother leaving baby in freezing apartment"
"St. Paul man sentenced for murdering 6-week-old daughter"
"Car-train crash kills driver"
"7 U.S. soldiers killed in Afghan explosion"

These headlines suggest serious incompetence on the part of the guardian angels.

[zakur]

Why do some little girls get 10 guardian angels, but some don't get any?

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040210_1479.html

[UnrepentantSinner]

In other news, 9 little girls were ran over by busses in other states...

[evildave]

This must've been a bad little kid:
http://www.whnt19.com/Global/story.asp?S=1622485

and this one:
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/7211522.htm

and this one:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108226,00.html

Pesky naughty kids killed around busses who angels didn't save. Good riddance?


http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html

According to NCIPC WISQARS Report, 2,236 children under 12 died in 2001 by traffic related injuries. 607 as pedestrians.

Pesky naughty kids killed on the roads and highways who angels didn't save. Good riddance?

[zakur]

No angels at Disney World either:

Disney World Worker Run Over and Killed by Float (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/7931341.htm)