View Full Version : [Ed] 9-11 Truthers Expose their Misogynistic Views
djlunacee
23rd June 2010, 06:12 AM
As many of you know I have been embroiled in a debate with the member known here as 911thology through other lines of communication. Well during the self imposed boycott this conversation took an unexpected turn, very unexpected. I guess the question is, Is this the attitude of the truth movement?
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911thology
Re: Re: the answer you requested
Hi.
I just accidentally visited the JREForum and noticed a female avatar pertaining to your nik. Actually, I talked to you presuming that you were a man, hence probably my tone (I despise men who lack logic because I think it is the worst possible quality of a man). It is not so, however, when it comes to women. I think they deserve some leniency on account of lacking logic by definition. Besides, it is very unlikely that a woman could be hired by the US Government to perform full-time trolling on the Internet -- these tasks are assigned to men only (at least so I hope). Therefore I would like to remove my judicial accusation where I charged you with being a paid government shill. I was most probably wrong and these things shall not be applied to women.
I can't accept that some man could believe the NIST report and I actually have nothing to talk to such a man. Especially when such a man is arrogant to an extent to even post on 9/11-related forums. However, I could forgive such a fault to a woman, since the women are tend to believe everything written and said by those in power and therefore deserve some leniency in this sense.
Another thing is that I can actually make some discount for you on account of your being from an opposite sex and based on this I could answer your questions if still you have any. However, these questions must be clearly stated, so that I could understand what you actually want to know.
These questions, however, must be from you personally, not from those folk on the JREF thread who from the very beginning refused to meet my conditions by watching the entire video first before asking any questions.
So, if you sincerely have any questions (and ask them not with a view of "debunking my theory" or proving it to other that I am allegedly a moron, but with a sincere intention of getting an answer to your question) I will try to answer them all. I am not actually afraid of any questions and can easily answer any of them simply because I am firstly right, and secondly know my subject very well. I did not want to talk to arrogant people in the JREF thread not because I can't answer any question of them, but merely out of principle -- I set my conditions, the conditions were not met -- end of the story. I am a man, after all, and I am 100% responsible for my words. I answered more than 20 pages of questions on some other forums where people know how to conduct discussions in a polite manner. If you are interested I can send you some links to these discussions. Besides, I answered several hundred personal letters with a lot of questions. I don't mind this, as long as I am talking to normal humans, not to zombied morons and not to professional full-time trolls.
Now you have a chance to repeat your (again your) questions if you want me to answer them. If I see that your questions were dictated by a sincere interest, not by a spiteful desire to "debunk my theory" at any cost, I will answer them to the best of my abilities.
If you have no questions -- I wish you a very good luck. Continue in your believes: think that kerosene could melt steel, think that aluminum projectiles could penetrate steel targets, think that places of pancake collapses should be called 'ground zero' and think that Oklahoma bombings that produce seismic signal with magnitude 3 on Richter scale (and defined as 'ground zero' too) could be caused by explosions of 2 tons of fertilizer on the surface. Blessed are those who believe.
Best wishes.
Dimitri.
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Seriously? Should I let him know I am a 6'2" 245lb full grown man? Or should I play the role he has so put me in based on an avatar?
kookbreaker
23rd June 2010, 06:25 AM
(Psst...it is spelled 'Misogynistic')
DGM
23rd June 2010, 06:28 AM
Why do I get the impression he's single and likely to remain that way for a long.....long time?
:rolleyes:
BNRT
23rd June 2010, 06:32 AM
(Psst...it is spelled 'Misogynistic')
(That's okay, women probably can't spell either.)
Dave Rogers
23rd June 2010, 06:43 AM
OK, that makes him about 2.7% more insane than I previously thought.
Dave
djlunacee
23rd June 2010, 07:17 AM
(Psst...it is spelled 'Misogynistic')
Thanx, I mean Thanks.
Thunder
23rd June 2010, 07:28 AM
It is not so, however, when it comes to women. I think they deserve some leniency on account of lacking logic by definition. Besides, it is very unlikely that a woman could be hired by the US Government
However, I could forgive such a fault to a woman, since the women are tend to believe everything written and said by those in power and therefore deserve some leniency in this sense.
Best wishes.
Dimitri.
un.........believable.
classic. golden. this is true gold.
jiggeryqua
23rd June 2010, 09:23 AM
I guess the question is, Is this the attitude of the truth movement?
I'd guess the answer is "only if 'masoginistic' is representative of the literacy levels of the debunkers". Seriously, spellcheckers, online dictionaries...not to mention its obvious formation from the familiar prefix mis- and the relatively common gyn (greek for 'woman', as in gynaecology).
Supplementary answer: "only if ad hominem attacks (even if factually based) constitute valid criticism of another's ideas". Do you not think it looks a little desperate when, beyond disproving every claim of the truthers, you devote time and energy to portraying them as smelly, tax-dodging, puppy-kicking, racist welfare cheats who cough over salad bars and steal pencils from blind beggars?
Dave Rogers
23rd June 2010, 09:34 AM
Do you not think it looks a little desperate when, beyond disproving every claim of the truthers, you devote time and energy to portraying them as smelly, tax-dodging, puppy-kicking, racist welfare cheats who cough over salad bars and steal pencils from blind beggars?
Absolutely. They can do that for themselves quite adequately.
Dave
djlunacee
23rd June 2010, 09:47 AM
NEWS FLASH!!!!! I made a spelling mistake, oops the whiteout on the screen didn't work and I can't go back and edit it, in the future I now know.
djlunacee
23rd June 2010, 09:48 AM
I'd guess the answer is "only if 'masoginistic' is representative of the literacy levels of the debunkers". Seriously, spellcheckers, online dictionaries...not to mention its obvious formation from the familiar prefix mis- and the relatively common gyn (greek for 'woman', as in gynaecology).
Supplementary answer: "only if ad hominem attacks (even if factually based) constitute valid criticism of another's ideas". Do you not think it looks a little desperate when, beyond disproving every claim of the truthers, you devote time and energy to portraying them as smelly, tax-dodging, puppy-kicking, racist welfare cheats who cough over salad bars and steal pencils from blind beggars?
I will take that as a yes.
dc1971
23rd June 2010, 09:50 AM
Why do I get the impression he's single and likely to remain that way for a long.....long time?
:rolleyes:
Maybe he's pregnant?
dudalb
23rd June 2010, 01:05 PM
can't accept that some man could believe the NIST report and I actually have nothing to talk to such a man. Especially when such a man is arrogant to an extent to even post on 9/11-related forums. However, I could forgive such a fault to a woman, since the women are tend to believe everything written and said by those in power and therefore deserve some leniency in this sense.
I can't wait for Lash L ,Library Lady, and a few other of our feminine contingent to comment on this.
Brainster
23rd June 2010, 01:21 PM
I'd guess the answer is "only if 'masoginistic' is representative of the literacy levels of the debunkers". Seriously, spellcheckers, online dictionaries...not to mention its obvious formation from the familiar prefix mis- and the relatively common gyn (greek for 'woman', as in gynaecology).
Supplementary answer: "only if ad hominem attacks (even if factually based) constitute valid criticism of another's ideas". Do you not think it looks a little desperate when, beyond disproving every claim of the truthers, you devote time and energy to portraying them as smelly, tax-dodging, puppy-kicking, racist welfare cheats who cough over salad bars and steal pencils from blind beggars?
I don't think anybody hereabouts has ever accused the Truthers of coughing over salad bars.
Myriad
23rd June 2010, 01:27 PM
I don't think anybody hereabouts has ever accused the Truthers of coughing over salad bars.
Nor do I. And I have never seen a blind beggar selling, offering, or otherwise displaying pencils, except in cartoons. So I strongly doubt that Truthers have had much opportunity to steal them.
Ketchup packets from fast food places, on the other hand...
Respectfully,
Myriad
carlitos
23rd June 2010, 01:38 PM
Just to be fair, calling all truthers misogynistic based on this one example seems like a blanket generalization. I haven't seen that attitude from the posters here.
Seymour Butz
23rd June 2010, 01:50 PM
Why do I get the impression he's single and likely to remain that way for a long.....long time?
:rolleyes:
He's in Thailand.
I would be too.....
:boxedin:
rbanks1
23rd June 2010, 02:15 PM
The thing I find very telling in regards to this E-mail is the fact that this "Dimitri" came to the completely wrong conclusion in regards to the gender of djlunacee based only upon an avatar, and nothing else. I thought these truthers were supposed to be masters of investigation. If one of them makes such a fundamental, and frankly embarassing mistake like this, what other gross fundamental errors have they made?
ETA-djlunacee, I think you should retain your new female persona and have some fun with it.
Hokulele
24th June 2010, 01:56 AM
I think they deserve some leniency on account of lacking logic by definition.
By definition? I am guessing that this person's dictionary exists only between his ears.
After all, he needs to use that space for something...
ETA: I am referring to the author of that bit quoted, not djlunacee, just in case that isn't clear.
Sword_Of_Truth
24th June 2010, 02:07 AM
Did anyone else catch that the guy Djlunacee quoted is a no-planer?
That alone should tell you that talking to him for any other reason than to yank his chain and watch him freak out is a waste of time.
BaaBaa
24th June 2010, 03:42 AM
Words fail me, my lords.
Why didn't he save all them five dollar words and just say,"daaaar, gurls is dumb!"?
rbanks1
24th June 2010, 03:50 AM
Did anyone else catch that the guy Djlunacee quoted is a no-planer?
That alone should tell you that talking to him for any other reason than to yank his chain and watch him freak out is a waste of time.
Not only is he a no-planer, he's that moron who says he's a Russian "nuclear expert" and that an atomic bomb was used to destroy everything from the WTC to the Murrah building. I think he once said the Bali nightclub bombing was actually a nuke too. Crazy stuff.
rbanks1
djlunacee
24th June 2010, 04:28 AM
Not only is he a no-planer, he's that moron who says he's a Russian "nuclear expert" and that an atomic bomb was used to destroy everything from the WTC to the Murrah building. I think he once said the Bali nightclub bombing was actually a nuke too. Crazy stuff.
rbanks1
Indeed he did, he has mini-nuclear bombs going off all over the world, Bali, Oklahoma City, NYC, but not Washington DC, no that's a stolen Russian Granit Missle.
I could play this up and throw on my finest southern bell accent and ask all the same questions, but I am sure I would be met with an answer along the lines of (Ivan Drago voice here)"I will not answer question as you are woman and will not understand".
But then again, I see no need to do all that. I will simply inform him of his mistake, let him know what happens when you assume and if he is not going to answer the most basic questions about his claims, then no one is ever going to take him seriously, not that anyone does now.
TSR
24th June 2010, 07:30 AM
he has mini-nuclear bombs going off all over the world
.
Makes up for the firecracker *he* can bring to bear, if you ask me...
.
AJM8125
24th June 2010, 09:25 AM
... or proving it to other that I am allegedly a moron,<snip>
I think we can all agree that it's no longer an allegation, if it ever was.
beachnut
25th June 2010, 07:30 AM
He's in Thailand.
I would be too.....
:boxedin:
Does he know his girlfriends are katoeys; he can't figure out 911, he can't figure out gender. Like 911 truth's goal, his destiny may cast in the same to be as dumb as you can be mentality.
Bell
25th June 2010, 02:32 PM
I can't wait for Lash L ,Library Lady, and a few other of our feminine contingent to comment on this.
Pfffew... I was afraid you were going to name Hokulele in that line up.
Myriad
25th June 2010, 02:44 PM
Meanwhile, at NWO headquarters...
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/130124c251d07a0bf5.jpg
Respectfully,
Myriad
djlunacee
25th June 2010, 09:44 PM
that might be the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
Grizzly Bear
26th June 2010, 09:17 AM
Man, over the years I gotta say this NWO business has really turned into powder puff...
Hokulele
26th June 2010, 10:06 AM
Man, over the years I gotta say this NWO business has really turned into powder puff...
That comment, in juxtaposition with your avatar, is highly giggle-inducing. :)
ImANiceGuy
26th June 2010, 12:26 PM
As many of you know I have been embroiled in a debate with the member known here as 911thology through other lines of communication. Well during the self imposed boycott this conversation took an unexpected turn, very unexpected. I guess the question is, Is this the attitude of the Russians?
__________________________________________________ _______
911thology
Re: Re: the answer you requested
Hi.
I just accidentally visited the JREForum and noticed a female avatar pertaining to your nik. Actually, I talked to you presuming that you were a man, hence probably my tone (I despise men who lack logic because I think it is the worst possible quality of a man). It is not so, however, when it comes to women. I think they deserve some leniency on account of lacking logic by definition. Besides, it is very unlikely that a woman could be hired by the US Government to perform full-time trolling on the Internet -- these tasks are assigned to men only (at least so I hope). Therefore I would like to remove my judicial accusation where I charged you with being a paid government shill. I was most probably wrong and these things shall not be applied to women.
I can't accept that some man could believe the NIST report and I actually have nothing to talk to such a man. Especially when such a man is arrogant to an extent to even post on 9/11-related forums. However, I could forgive such a fault to a woman, since the women are tend to believe everything written and said by those in power and therefore deserve some leniency in this sense.
Another thing is that I can actually make some discount for you on account of your being from an opposite sex and based on this I could answer your questions if still you have any. However, these questions must be clearly stated, so that I could understand what you actually want to know.
These questions, however, must be from you personally, not from those folk on the JREF thread who from the very beginning refused to meet my conditions by watching the entire video first before asking any questions.
So, if you sincerely have any questions (and ask them not with a view of "debunking my theory" or proving it to other that I am allegedly a moron, but with a sincere intention of getting an answer to your question) I will try to answer them all. I am not actually afraid of any questions and can easily answer any of them simply because I am firstly right, and secondly know my subject very well. I did not want to talk to arrogant people in the JREF thread not because I can't answer any question of them, but merely out of principle -- I set my conditions, the conditions were not met -- end of the story. I am a man, after all, and I am 100% responsible for my words. I answered more than 20 pages of questions on some other forums where people know how to conduct discussions in a polite manner. If you are interested I can send you some links to these discussions. Besides, I answered several hundred personal letters with a lot of questions. I don't mind this, as long as I am talking to normal humans, not to zombied morons and not to professional full-time trolls.
Now you have a chance to repeat your (again your) questions if you want me to answer them. If I see that your questions were dictated by a sincere interest, not by a spiteful desire to "debunk my theory" at any cost, I will answer them to the best of my abilities.
If you have no questions -- I wish you a very good luck. Continue in your believes: think that kerosene could melt steel, think that aluminum projectiles could penetrate steel targets, think that places of pancake collapses should be called 'ground zero' and think that Oklahoma bombings that produce seismic signal with magnitude 3 on Richter scale (and defined as 'ground zero' too) could be caused by explosions of 2 tons of fertilizer on the surface. Blessed are those who believe.
Best wishes.
Dimitri.
__________________________________________________ ______
Seriously? Should I let him know I am a 6'2" 245lb full grown man? Or should I play the role he has so put me in based on an avatar?
FYP......(my bold)
djlunacee
26th June 2010, 05:44 PM
FYP......(my bold)
And?
triforcharity
26th June 2010, 09:05 PM
Meanwhile, at NWO headquarters...
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/130124c251d07a0bf5.jpg
Respectfully,
Myriad
WIN!!
RedIbis
27th June 2010, 07:40 AM
Just to be fair, calling all truthers misogynistic based on this one example seems like a blanket generalization. I haven't seen that attitude from the posters here.
Now why would you go and spoil all of this highly witty repartee?
It's much more fun when you can categorize large groups of people and make them responsible for what one person says.
Sabrina
27th June 2010, 07:56 AM
I find his attitude highly insulting, personally. But as others here have said, I see no indication that this is an attitude shared by most truthers; they seem more likely to be condescending to anyone regardless of gender if the person does not agree with them.
I for one would like to know Dmitri's reaction upon hearing that djlunacee is in fact male.
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