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Tmy
6th February 2004, 06:16 AM
I think the boob scapegoating has gotten out of control. You get these far right freaks who want to punish everyone involved. CBS ,NFL, MTV, JANET, etc....

Compare that with the bad intelligenece on the Iraqi WMD's. GW seems to be escaping any blame because the CIA got some bad info. So hes off the hook???

Even the CIA isnt catching flack. I dont see how the director keeps scating after all these failures. Bill Clinton seems to get more blame.

BTox
6th February 2004, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Tmy


Even the CIA isnt catching flack. I dont see how the director keeps scating after all these failures. Bill Clinton seems to get more blame.

They aren't? I think it's a safe bet that Tenet gets sh#t-canned in the near future.

American
6th February 2004, 06:21 AM
That was one ugly boob. Thank god she didn't show its matching companion.

Marc
6th February 2004, 06:24 AM
but how bad were the intelligence failures? The CIA is being blamed for the African Uranium sales thing from last years state of the union address. Yet some people pointed out that it had been known ahead of time it was not credible. Making it look like either the White House didn't get the correct info, or knowingly misrepresented evidence.

So many things in this administration virtually demands an investigation, yet the only quick response we see is to a bare breast. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised.

HarryKeogh
6th February 2004, 06:25 AM
i for one am sick of the media adding "gate" to anything remotely scandalous.

"breastgate"...i mean, really.

BTox
6th February 2004, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
i for one am sick of the media adding "gate" to anything remotely scandalous.

"breastgate"...i mean, really.

:D Are they really calling it that? Where'd you see it, in one of the NYC tabloids?

schplurg
6th February 2004, 04:45 PM
So many things in this administration virtually demands an investigation...

Oh don't worry, Bush himself has appointed a team to investigate these matters! What a joke.

Tricky
6th February 2004, 04:58 PM
Actually it's being called "nipplegate".

epepke
6th February 2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
I think the boob scapegoating has gotten out of control. You get these far right freaks who want to punish everyone involved. CBS ,NFL, MTV, JANET, etc....

Compare that with the bad intelligenece on the Iraqi WMD's. GW seems to be escaping any blame because the CIA got some bad info. So hes off the hook???

So it's one boob versus another boob?

Zep
6th February 2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by American
That was one ugly boob. Thank god she didn't show its matching companion. For once - TICK!

fishbob
6th February 2004, 07:14 PM
That was one ugly boob. Thank god he ain't twins.








Come on, somebody had to say it.

peptoabysmal
6th February 2004, 09:38 PM
Oh my God! I see the conspiracy now! What an excellent job of tying the deposing of an evil tyrant to a breast flash by a pop artist who's popularity has waned! It's all one big right-wing conspiracy! Call Bill! Call Hillary! Call Bill Hillary!

Cain
7th February 2004, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Tmy
I think the boob scapegoating has gotten out of control. You get these far right freaks who want to punish everyone involved. CBS ,NFL, MTV, JANET, etc....

Compare that with the bad intelligenece on the Iraqi WMD's. GW seems to be escaping any blame because the CIA got some bad info. So hes off the hook???

Even the CIA isnt catching flack. I dont see how the director keeps scating after all these failures. Bill Clinton seems to get more blame.

Bottom Line: the CIA over-stated the case and Bush, a reluctant warrior, was forced to take action. He basically got PUNK'D (just like CBS).

The cartoonist Tom Tomorrow has compared this whole "blame the CIA" nonsense to the (excellent) movie Dark City: "Malevolent creatures rewrite reality each night as the population sleeps, and no one ever seems to notice."

Paul Krugman made a similar point in an op-ed the other day (drawing on Orwell):

Do you remember when the C.I.A. was reviled by hawks because its analysts were reluctant to present a sufficiently alarming picture of the Iraqi threat? Your memories are no longer operative. On or about last Saturday, history was revised: see, it's the C.I.A.'s fault that the threat was overstated. Given its warnings, the administration had no choice but to invade.

A tip from Joshua Marshall, of www.talkingpointsmemo.com, led me to a stark reminder of how different the story line used to be. Last year Laurie Mylroie published a book titled "Bush vs. the Beltway: How the C.I.A. and the State Department Tried to Stop the War on Terror." Ms. Mylroie's book came with an encomium from Richard Perle; she's known to be close to Paul Wolfowitz and to Dick Cheney's chief of staff. According to the jacket copy, "Mylroie describes how the C.I.A. and the State Department have systematically discredited critical intelligence about Saddam's regime, including indisputable evidence of its possession of weapons of mass destruction."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/06/opinion/06KRUG.html

pgwenthold
7th February 2004, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by Cain


Bottom Line: the CIA over-stated the case and Bush, a reluctant warrior, was forced to take action. He basically got PUNK'D (just like CBS).


How can anyone say he was "forced" to take action. As the Bushites are so anxious to point out, Clinton had the same information. Yet, he didn't order an invasion force.

Bottom Line: Bush was looking for an excuse to go to war, and found it, even with the possibility that the intelligence was weak (and they knew a lot of it was but used it anyway). He took that chance and got fried.

Clinton had the same information but was unwilling to risk it. It's the difference between the war monger and the peacenik. And, in this case, the peacenik was shown to be the wiser...

Cain
7th February 2004, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by pgwenthold
How can anyone say he was "forced" to take action. As the Bushites are so anxious to point out, Clinton had the same information. Yet, he didn't order an invasion force.

This is precisely because Clinton did not really care about national security. To quote Ann Coulter, a sharp analyst who combines her wide-ranging knowledge of liberals with sane opinions on national security, says: "Liberals don't want to fight terrorism. [They] want there to be lots of 9/11's."

Bottom Line: Bush was looking for an excuse to go to war, and found it, even with the possibility that the intelligence was weak (and they knew a lot of it was but used it anyway). He took that chance and got fried.

Clinton had the same information but was unwilling to risk it. It's the difference between the war monger and the peacenik. And, in this case, the peacenik was shown to be the wiser...

Obviously you want there to be more 9/11's. I'm not sure how you can call the President of the United States a war-monger. Show a little more respect for the Office -- unlike that whore-monger Bill Clinton.

Mr Manifesto
7th February 2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Tricky
Actually it's being called "nipplegate".

WTF? Where was the nipple? All I saw was a chunk of meat under a metal plate that looked like it belonged in someone's skull.

Janet's, for example.

hammegk
7th February 2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by pgwenthold


Clinton had the same information but was unwilling to risk it. It's the difference between the war monger and the peacenik. And, in this case, the peacenik was shown to be the wiser...

Help me out here. Why don't I interpret that as "I'm sorry Saddam is not still in charge in Iraq"? Or is that what you actually do mean?

Ignatius
7th February 2004, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Tricky
Actually it's being called "nipplegate".

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


WTF? Where was the nipple? All I saw was a chunk of meat under a metal plate that looked like it belonged in someone's skull.

Janet's, for example.

Because "nipple" has two syllables. "Breast" and "boob" only have one. Don't blame me, I don't make the rules.

Iconoclast
8th February 2004, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Tricky
Actually it's being called "nipplegate".
So... this Nipplegate Hotel. Is it better than the Tuscany?

pgwenthold
8th February 2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Cain

Obviously you want there to be more 9/11's.

Get something through your fat head:

Iraq had nothing NOTHING NOTHING to do with 9/11.

fishbob
8th February 2004, 10:55 PM
To quote Ann Coulter, a sharp analyst who combines her wide-ranging knowledge of liberals with sane opinions on national security, says: "Liberals don't want to fight terrorism. [They] want there to be lots of 9/11's." Get this through your fat head too. Ann Coulter is as sharp at analysis as pgw is at detecting a JOKE.

zakur
9th February 2004, 04:52 AM
I hear they're trying to blame it all on Howard Dean now.