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subgenius
1st March 2003, 11:38 AM
Source: Suspected 9/11 Mastermind Caught

Saturday March 1, 2003 6:20 PM


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) - Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks in the United States, was arrested Saturday in Pakistan, a senior Pakistan government source told The Associated Press.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2445121,00.html

Doctor X
1st March 2003, 03:45 PM
Apparently he will be extradited to the United States.

Will Johnny Cochran represent him?

--J.D.

1st March 2003, 03:59 PM
The linked article is very brief. How did they catch the guy?

And more importantly:

He is one of the FBI's most-wanted terror suspects, and the U.S. government is offering up to $25 million for information leading to his capture. Who just won the cash?

Jedi Knight
1st March 2003, 04:08 PM
What is brilliant about this arrest is that it proves that the United States can fight Al Qaeda and go after Saddam at the same time.

This terrorist that the CIA just caught was 5 miles underneath the ground inside some tunnel, and one CIA guy got him lol. Now imagine, there are hundreds of thousands of such CIA guys scouring the earth for these terrorists.

It is only a matter of time before all the bad guys are captured and handing over organizational details that will cause the entire terrorist network to collapse underneath its own corrupt weight.

JK

Brooklyn Dodger
1st March 2003, 04:08 PM
A few weeks ago, when I said the bin laden tapes were likely the work of the CIA, my theory was dismissed for no particular reason. This is what I said at the time:

1. They came to light at the perfect time so far as the US is concerned. Just before the war with Iraq is to begin. They lend themselves to the current US line.

2. They do fit fairly well, though not perfectly, with what the US might expect bin Laden to say. The second tape is apparently even clearer, and speaks of his pending martyrdom.

3. The previous tape that was released from bin Laden was analyzed by a laboratory in Switzerland. The lab said that it couldn't be sure, but it apppeared that the tape was probably a fraud.

4. The US has said it will not submit these tapes to the lab and the lab has said it will not analyze these tapes.

5. The US "miraculously" had a copy of the recent tapes, and their tranlations, even before the Al Jazeera News Service was aware it had them. I hope some of you are noticing a pattern here.

6. The new tapes exhort Al Qaeda and all muslims to fight the infidels and kill them, etc., which is about what you would expect. This is accompanied by what we are told is an unusual increase in terrorist communications traffic. We have raised the threat level to RED. We expect to be attacked, just as we expect to attack Iraq.

My conclusion: These two tapes, plus the last bin Laden tape, were produced by US intelligence sources. If these tapes were made by bin Laden himself, then that means he is a prisoner of the US. But we must know that he cannot surface to deny the tapes, which means that he's not our prisoner he must be dead, and we know he is. The purpose is not to provide a reason to go to war with Iraq, but to generate communications among Al Qaeda operatives, leading to their capture or death. I believe it is succeeding.

I don't know for sure, nor does anyone else, that the tapes are the work of the CIA. However, they may well have been, and may have served the purpose I said, that of exciting communication amongst senior Al Qaeda leaders, resulting in this capture. So if anyone would like to tell me why the theory is so farfetched, go right ahead.

fidiot
1st March 2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
What is briliant about this arrest is that it proves that the United States can fight Al Qaeda and go after Saddam at the same time.

Forget the "at the same time" part. I'm just glad that they are making progress in the whole Al-Qaida deal. Fighting terrorism is pretty much an impossible thing to finish, but at least we're getting somewhere.

Doctor X
1st March 2003, 04:29 PM
I will admit at first blush it sounds a bit "Bush, Oil, Mossad . . . THEY were behind 9/11!"

However, seriously, who knows? I am not convinced; however, it would be one hell of a strategy. It would demonstrate some fortitude on the part of the Administration because holding back proof of bin Laden's squishing would go against the political currency it would gain.

Interesting.

--J.D.

Brooklyn Dodger
1st March 2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Doctor X
I will admit at first blush it sounds a bit "Bush, Oil, Mossad . . . THEY were behind 9/11!"

However, seriously, who knows? I am not convinced; however, it would be one hell of a strategy. It would demonstrate some fortitude on the part of the Administration because holding back proof of bin Laden's squishing would go against the political currency it would gain.

Interesting.

--J.D.

Yes, but have you noticed how remarkably unconcerned the administration has been about bin Laden? I agree that is SOUNDS almost too smart for the administration to pull off, but these people have been so underestimated by their enemies for so long, that you can't put it past them. People think of Bush as stupid, but doesn't he have two graduate degrees?

Goshawk
1st March 2003, 05:35 PM
How they caught him: they're not telling.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/03/01/pakistan.arrests/index.html
The law enforcement official said the operation was "ongoing" but that it was unclear whether specific intelligence led to the arrest or whether Mohammed was captured as part of a broader operation. How they usually catch Wanted Men like this is because some disgruntled ex-employee drops a dime on him. So I would assume that they're reluctant to spell it out in order to protect whoever did that.

Frank Newgent
1st March 2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Brooklyn Dodger

...to generate communications among Al Qaeda operatives, leading to their capture or death...

BD, why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?

1st March 2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Frank Newgent


BD, why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?

http://hhh.gavilan.edu/cwang/Poker/New%20Folder/Queen%20HEARTS.jpg

Brooklyn Dodger
1st March 2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Frank Newgent


BD, why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?

Again, Frank comes to the rescue with ... uh, Frank comes in anyway.

1st March 2003, 06:38 PM
Frank Newgent is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

Bjorn
1st March 2003, 06:58 PM
Jedi
This terrorist that the CIA just caught was 5 miles underneath the ground inside some tunnel Sorry - where is this info from? I didn't see it. :confused:

LukeT
Who just won the cash? Very interesting. Can someone from CIA (or FBI or the police) win rewards like that just by doing what they are paid for in the first place, or are the rewards for 'outsiders' only? :confused:

Frank Newgent
1st March 2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by LukeT

Frank Newgent is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

Allow me to introduce our JREF visitors. I must ask you to forgive their somewhat lackadaisical manners, but I have conditioned them - or brain-washed them, which I understand is the new American word. They believe that they are waiting out a storm in the lobby of a small hotel in New Jersey where a meeting of the ladies' garden club is in progress.

Brooklyn Dodger
1st March 2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Frank Newgent


Allow me to introduce our JREF visitors. I must ask you to forgive their somewhat lackadaisical manners, but I have conditioned them - or brain-washed them, which I understand is the new American word. They believe that they are waiting out a storm in the lobby of a small hotel in New Jersey where a meeting of the ladies' garden club is in progress.

On your arrival, that's where they thought they must be ... a ladies garden club in New Jersey. Perfectly understandable.

1st March 2003, 07:22 PM
Did you really hear what I said? I said, Frank Newgent is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. And even now I feel that way, this minute. And yet, somewhere in the back of my mind, something tells me it's not true. It's just not true. It isn't as if Frank's hard to like. He's impossible to like! In fact, he's probably one of the most repulsive human beings I've ever known in my whole-- all of my life.

Frank Newgent
1st March 2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by LukeT
Did you really hear what I said? I said, Frank Newgent is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. And even now I feel that way, this minute. And yet, somewhere in the back of my mind, something tells me it's not true. It's just not true. It isn't as if Frank's hard to like. He's impossible to like! In fact, he's probably one of the most repulsive human beings I've ever known in my whole-- all of my life.

Major Marco: Are you Arabic?

subgenius
1st March 2003, 08:12 PM
Wha'ppen? Me a go birthday partee an thread go all a baldhead.
Rude boy ina jail, rasta canna fail.
Time to partee. One and all.
Gonna chase dem crazy baldheads out a town.
Give thanks and rejoice.:D
If you are the big tree we are the small axe.
Guiltiness. So much trouble in the world. Ambush in the night.
So Jah seh.
The big wheel is turning.

Bjorn
1st March 2003, 08:18 PM
subgenius
rasta canna fail You smoked some, didn't you? :D

subgenius
1st March 2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Bjorn
subgenius
You smoked some, didn't you? :D
Believe it or not, no. But it'll probably take me 30 years to come down from my last one. :D
Please y'all, burn a big one for me and justice.:D
It don't happen ina courtroom.---Clarence Darrow

Doctor X
1st March 2003, 10:52 PM
HOW DID THE LADIES TURN INTO RUSSIANS?!!!!

--J. "Try, Dear Zyrkov, to Cultivate a Sense of Humor" D.

Doubt
1st March 2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Doctor X
HOW DID THE LADIES TURN INTO RUSSIANS?!!!!

--J. "Try, Dear Zyrkov, to Cultivate a Sense of Humor" D.

Apparently, quite a few of us have seen that film.

But I don’t need to see Angela Lansbury in an incest scene again.

Back to the topic:

I doubt the have OBL yet. Too much political capital to be gained by his capture to keep it a secret.

Troll
1st March 2003, 11:33 PM
This is one of the guys they work to break. everyone will break if treated right. Pretty good step in the battle. who get's rewarded? who cares? It'll more than likely go to Pakistan just to keep them honest

Troll
2nd March 2003, 12:05 AM
Also the press coverage of this ********** it all. Obl knows what the news shows and if he or I or you knew a key counterpart that knew where we were got nabbed that we'd then move.

subgenius
3rd March 2003, 12:21 AM
But he's a good looking guy: