Fun with the Heritage Foundation

[VicDaring]

Last year, for my birthday, my right-wing brother got me a subscription to National Review, hoping -- I guess -- to cure me of my soft-headed liberal thinking ways.

(Interestingly, I got him O'Reilly's book for his birthday. To me, that says something about thr right and the left, but that's another story.)

Ever since, I've been getting all sorts of neo-con propoganda junk mail.

Today, it was an appeal from the Heritage Foundation for a donation. Enclosed was a 6-page harangue from Steve Forbes (haven't heard much from him lately). In this massive missive, Stevie makes the case for why the left is dangerous and defeating them should be taken seriously.

Some excerpts:

They took over the schools and colleges, and taught young people that America was too flawed to be worthy of our loyalty.

They took over the media and put a liberal slant on every social and political issue. They took over the labor unions, ending decades of non-communist leadership.

The Left hasn't succeeded in completely re-making America in their image. But they've inflicted a great deal of damage to the way people think. Dangerously, they've convinved many Americans that right and wrong are relative...that there is no such thing as truth...that we have no ground to judge our culture as better than any other...

It goes on like that. Including five references (counting the one above) to moral relativism.

Luckily, along with the form to make a donation, they included a survey, with questions like: Have you personally noticed a a rise in moral relativism during your lifetime -- that is, an unwillingness to define anything as good or evil?

I think I'm gonna have some fun with this form and return (they included a postage paid envelope and everything.

I'll post the questions and my responses later.

In the meantime, please, talk amongst yourselves about the absurdity of Forbes' correspondence.

[Gem]

They took over the media and put a liberal slant on every social and political issue. They took over the labor unions, ending decades of non-communist leadership.

I love this one.

So it took them a 150 years to make Unions communists? And let's not forget Unions were thought of as commies back then!

They must be die hard communists by now. Why aren't we seeing more red flags in factories these days?

Gem

[subgenius]

"(Interestingly, I got him O'Reilly's book for his birthday. To me, that says something about thr right and the left, but that's another story.)"
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I think this is genius.

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Gem


I love this one.

So it took them a 150 years to make Unions communists? And let's not forget Unions were thought of as commies back then!

They must be die hard communists by now. Why aren't we seeing more red flags in factories these days?

Gem

Watch out for that commie boogie-man.
And that Clinton boogie man.
Isn't this a little old?

[Hutch]

Originally posted by Gem


I love this one.

So it took them a 150 years to make Unions communists? And let's not forget Unions were thought of as commies back then!

They must be die hard communists by now. Why aren't we seeing more red flags in factories these days?

Gem


You mustn't forget the Wobblies!! For non-historians, that's the International Workers of the World (IWW) Union--definietly a Steve Forbes nightmare and probably how he sees all unions.

PS--Just a thought--Teamsters = Communists :eek: :p

[BTox]

Originally posted by VicDaring
Last year, for my birthday, my right-wing brother got me a subscription to National Review, hoping -- I guess -- to cure me of my soft-headed liberal thinking ways.

(Interestingly, I got him O'Reilly's book for his birthday. To me, that says something about thr right and the left, but that's another story.)


Similar to my wife and I. She got me a talking George W Bush doll for my birthday, I reciprocated with a talking Clinton doll for hers. This reminds me of an anecdote, as others here have posted one on a senior named Bidlack who claims to have voted for Bush and will now vote for a dem. My wife has always been a liberal democrat - voted for (since we've been married): Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore. We rarely discuss politics, usually around election day we joke about cancelling each other's vote. Well, after 9/11 - she has changed. Now supports Bush and will vote for him this fall - no matter who the dem candidate. Even listens to Hannity and O'Reilly on the radio. I am shocked!

[ktesibios]

Originally posted by Hutch



You mustn't forget the Wobblies!! For non-historians, that's the International Workers of the World (IWW) Union--definietly a Steve Forbes nightmare and probably how he sees all unions.

PS--Just a thought--Teamsters = Communists :eek: :p

Industrial Workers of the World, damnit!

I oughta know- I'm a lapsed Wob myself. :D

[peptoabysmal]

Hmmm... I've always thought of the teamsters more as organized crime than commies... Oh well, live and learn :D

[specious_reasons]

Steve Forbes says,

They took over the media and put a liberal slant on every social and political issue.


This is coming from a man who runs a magazine. Does this mean he's been taken over, too?

...at least he had the decency to limit the "liberal bias" to political and social issues. More honest than I've seen others be, even if he's wrong.

[VicDaring]

Survey complete.

It starts with a little box for you to check that says: Yes, Steve, I want to help the Heritage Foundation stand up against the radical leftists and the limousine liberals who are tearing down America, trying to destroy President Bush, and pushing their dangerous ideology of moral relativism..etc. etc. etc.

I drew another box, and wrote next to it: No, Steve, I think you're a giant dork. And I checked that box.



Then they ask 8 questions. The available responses are "yes," "no, and "unsure." I elaborated my responses in the margins, as space allowed.

1. Do you believe the anti-American left poses a danger to America?

I check "not sure" and added, "Who is this? I'm a proud American."

2. Have you personally noticed a rise in moral relativism during your lifetime -- that is, an unwillingness to define anything as good or evil?

"Not sure" again. And I added "Please define this nebulous term.

3. Do you think the non-judgemental attitude of young people makes them susceptible to anti-American propoganda?

"No." Added: "It makes them 'susceptible' to critical thinking."

4. Have you personally noticed more ignorance about America's history and principles among young people now than in the past?

"Unsure." Added: "History and principles? Please explain the relationship."

5. Do you think schoolchildren should be taught what is great about America?[b]

"Yes." Added: "And it ain't you."

[b]6. Do you think conservative talk radio has been important in combating the influence of the Left on the American people?

"No." Added: "I find nothing 'important' about conservative talk radio."

7. Do you think conservatives have more of a voice in the media than was true 10 years ago?

"No." Added: "Not more. Just more shrill."

8. Do you think the Heritage Foundation has been a positive force in combating the influence of the Left on the AMerican people?

"No." Added: "See #6."

So there you have it. To be honest, I wasn't as funny as I had hoped to be. The "I think you're a giant dork," line was pretty funny, but that was probably the best one.

Ah well. Maybe it tweaks a neo-con in D.C. a little. That's the best we can hope for.


Just edited for a little BB code.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by VicDaring
Luckily, along with the form to make a donation, they included a survey, with questions like: Have you personally noticed a a rise in moral relativism during your lifetime -- that is, an unwillingness to define anything as good or evil?

I think I'm gonna have some fun with this form and return (they included a postage paid envelope and everything.

I'll post the questions and my responses later.

In the meantime, please, talk amongst yourselves about the absurdity of Forbes' correspondence.

Don't even waste your time filling out the survey - they don't read them. They just yank out the check and throw the rest away.

Postage paid return envelope you say? Bwahahahahahahaha. Do what I do - take everything they sent you, plus any other scraps of paper laying around, and stuff everything that will fit back into the envelope and return it to them. And best of all, they pay for it!

[aerosolben]

Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
Postage paid return envelope you say? Bwahahahahahahaha. Do what I do - take everything they sent you, plus any other scraps of paper laying around, and stuff everything that will fit back into the envelope and return it to them. And best of all, they pay for it!

I just mailed a pile of plastic knives to Peter Popoff in this fashion. Viva La Resistance!