Richard Gage to Speak at Founding of New Political Party

[Scott Sommers]

The Catskills Truth Gathering (http://www.sanderhicks.com/truthgathering.html) is the announcement of the founding of the Truth Party. Among their confirmed speakers is Dikie G. and my Facebook friend Luke Rudkowski, founder of We Are Change.

Incidentally, the Truth Party seems to agree with much of the political analysis of Truthers. "Beyond Left and Right, but in a distinct new direction," they tell us. So you don't have to be a Bible-thumping, pro-life, NWO conspiracy nut to be part of their group.

[Greediguts]

Oh goodie! A BBQ! I can make potato salad (with or without nano-thermite...some say it improves the flavor).

[uke2se]

The Catskills Truth Gathering (http://www.sanderhicks.com/truthgathering.html) is the announcement of the founding of the Truth Party. Among their confirmed speakers is Dikie G. and my Facebook friend Luke Rudkowski, founder of We Are Change.

Incidentally, the Truth Party seems to agree with much of the political analysis of Truthers. "Beyond Left and Right, but in a distinct new direction," they tell us. So you don't have to be a Bible-thumping, pro-life, NWO conspiracy nut to be part of their group.

But you don't have to not be, right?

[Oystein]

Oh goodie! A BBQ! I can make potato salad (with or without nano-thermite...some say it improves the flavor).

I bring red-and-grey chips if you bring the dip :D

[Thunder]

"The Truth Party".

sounds like something from the USSR.

I guess those of who oppose the party, are against truth?

Stalin would be proud of their tactics.

[CompusMentus]

I bring red-and-grey chips if you bring the dip :D


Are you kidding? See who's cooking up the culinary delights?



DAY ONE:
August 14, 1 PM.
Saturday: BBQ/open mike/informal social at the 52 DuBois Street House, downtown Livingston Manor. Cook/Chefs are Lumino, Luke Rudkowski, and Sander Hicks. Informal. Sander will serve homebrew.



Expect lashings of Truth Pie and Sheeple Soup. Take a pinch of salt with each.

Compus

[DGM]

Are you kidding? See who's cooking up the culinary delights?






Expect lashings of Truth Pie and Sheeple Soup. Take a pinch of salt with each.

Compus
I'd like to know what "homebrew" is? Would that be a form of "Kool-aid" :D

[Thunder]

I expect this party to appear on exactly ZERO state ballots.

the name itself, the "truth" party, is soooo very Orwellian.

[beachnut]

Gage : the minister of truth
Bigfoot : the Party's symbol

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/1Bigfootnut.jpg
... out in the woods, looking for truth.
Send donations now!

[AJM8125]

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=3473

[Mr.Herbert]

Whenever I think of idiots in politics, it always brings me back to one of the funniest SNL skits.


http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o233/CameronFox/veep.jpg

Skit here:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4123/saturday-night-live-joyride-with-perot

Gage does resemble a younger Ross Perot.

[BigAl]

I look forward to their first attempt at a petition drive to get someone on the ballot.

[Bell]

So the truthers want to be part of the big bad government now?

[T.A.M.]

Where is bs witH some comment like,

"and we will be a force to be reckoned with!"

TAM:)

[dudalb]

I bet the Democrats and the GOP are really shaking in their booties over this.

[Quad4_72]

What a bunch of disturbed retards.

[dudalb]

Where is bs witH some comment like,

"and we will be a force to be reckoned with to be laughed at"!

TAM:)

Fixed that for them.

[switchpoint]

The Catskills Truth Gathering (http://www.sanderhicks.com/truthgathering.html) is the announcement of the founding of the Truth Party. Among their confirmed speakers is Dikie G. and my Facebook friend Luke Rudkowski, founder of We Are Change.

Incidentally, the Truth Party seems to agree with much of the political analysis of Truthers. "Beyond Left and Right, but in a distinct new direction," they tell us. So you don't have to be a Bible-thumping, pro-life, NWO conspiracy nut to be part of their group.

Damn, there are some serious trout streams up that way, I'm almost willing to go for a laugh and a couple of casts.

[Horatius]

I'd like to know what "homebrew" is? Would that be a form of "Kool-aid" :D


Truth Beer. (http://www.sanderhicks.com/TGtruthbeer.html)


Description: it is a light ale, with caramel malted grains, Golden Light and Pilsen Light malts, Chinook and Amarillo Hops. I threw in some ginger and garlic too, while brewing. Just a touch. Tastes kind of awesome and gnarly and bitter in a good way, I tasted the "wort" after primary fermentation. This will be a beer that talks to ya!

My vision for this new brewing company will be to combine beer production with an analysis of the social impact of beer, i.e. the way beer brings people together to talk, to scheme, to dream. This ties into where I'm at politically, being a post-Left kind of guy, obsessed with the future of the USA as a country that must and will someday embrace "peace leadership" i.e. our moral highground can only be in embracing gutsy, risky nonviolence. Gandhi called it "Truth Force" or "soul force" in his native language, satyagraha.



The Truth is, from the picture, it looks like murky swill to me.

[Mr.Herbert]

Truth Beer. (http://www.sanderhicks.com/TGtruthbeer.html)






The Truth is, from the picture, it looks like murky swill to me.

Only 100 bucks for 22 ounces. That's a bargain!

Become a Founding Supporter of the Truth Gathering for a $100 donation, and you will be listed in the program, sent a Thank You card from the Gathering, and shipped a 22 oz. bottle of delicious, home-brewed, Truth Party Foundation American Pale Ale, as a 'thank you' gift.

[Mr.Herbert]

Wow... you can rent out a room in one of the truthers homes for 100 bucks a week if you bring your own mattress, sheets, and pillows. Where does the 100 bucks go? Well... pretty much to Richard Gage!
http://www.sanderhicks.com/TGhousingspecial.html

Truth Gathering
prospective budget

Hall Rental Kings Catering 250
Minus Deposit 90 Due 160


Richard Gage fee 350 (this is reduced by 150 by RG)
Richard Gage flight 631.8
Total Gage Fees 981.8

http://www.sanderhicks.com/Documents/TruthGathBudget.xls

[Jonnyclueless]

Is it the Teaparty rejects party?

[Dog Town]

Where does the 100 bucks go? Well... pretty much to Richard Gage!

At what point do Twoofers realize they've been bam-boozled? RG is good, Do Over must be jealous, and pissed!

[angrysoba]

A conference, a gathering, a be-in, & teach-in. A communal vacation from stress and the economy, a big open mike.

We are visualizing a new direction to peace and truth for the USA.

This is how we can take the country back, and unite a huge amount of people, around the simple virtues of peace, truth, transparency, and really good homebrew.

Join the top leaders in Peace and Truth activism. Come to the Truth Gathering.



OMG! This is the new Bohemian Grove!

Does the media know this is happening???!??!?

Is someone gonna go undercover and find out what these people are up to?

They could be up there formulating policy on how to take over the world and stuff and the damn mainstream media is ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!

:eek: :jaw-dropp :eek: :jaw-dropp

[DGM]

Is someone gonna go undercover and find out what these people are up to?


Out of curiosity I called the local (suggested campground) to see if I would have problems getting a site if I decided to venture out with the camper.

They're not aware of anything going on and I should have no trouble if I decide to take the trip.


We'll see.


:rolleyes:

[grandmastershek]

"the bottom line is that although "The Truth Party" isn't perfect, any critics have yet to propose anything better."

"We would rather stick to the rules of evidence."

http://www.sanderhicks.com/truthparty.html

ROFLMAO!!!

[Thunder]

Truthers will not wonder why there is no Debunker political party.

:)

[Bell]

Truthers will not wonder why there is no Debunker political party.

:)

But there are: the Democrats and the Republicans. They are the ones covering up 9/11 and the debunkers are their tools.

[jhunter1163]

The Truth is, from the picture, it looks like murky swill to me.

Even I wouldn't drink that.

[Graham2001]

Truth Beer. (http://www.sanderhicks.com/TGtruthbeer.html)






The Truth is, from the picture, it looks like murky swill to me. Looks to me like it's already been drunk...

[BaaBaa]

That logo looks like North Korean air force roundel, as designed by hippies...

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=3473

Just reading the bottom of that poster just cracked me up. :D

[Scott Sommers]

According to the Facebook page, 42 people say they might attend. This includes someone calling themselves kt killtown.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Is anyone else thinking this is the first best argument against a proportional representation system?

Under a proportional representation system, if these idiots convinced 1% of the people to vote for them, they'd have 4 congressmen and 1 senator.

[tuc0]

Is anyone else thinking this is the first best argument against a proportional representation system?

Under a proportional representation system, if these idiots convinced 1% of the people to vote for them, they'd have 4 congressmen and 1 senator.


Well, in most proportional systems a party has to have at least 5% of the vote to get seats.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Well, in most proportional systems a party has to have at least 5% of the vote to get seats.

That's a good thing, I suppose. 9/11 twoof has still gotten dangerously close to that number though. It would have made the 2006 election results "interesting" to put it lightly.

[DGM]

That's a good thing, I suppose. 9/11 twoof has still gotten dangerously close to that number though. It would have made the 2006 election results "interesting" to put it lightly.
But their support is only in on-line poles. There's never been any evidence to show they would actually leave the house to vote.

[Mr.Herbert]

Any news of what the turnout was for this even? Their Facebook page has zero information.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=134835616549931&index=1

Gage doesn't have any info that I found regarding it. (besides the typical banner)

[Scott Sommers]

Any news of what the turnout was for this even? Their Facebook page has zero information.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=134835616549931&index=1

Gage doesn't have any info that I found regarding it. (besides the typical banner)

This is the blog of Sander Hicks, the main organizer.
http://911blogger.com/blogs/sander-hicks
He hasn't posted anything and has no pics of the event on his Facebook.

If you go here, you can find some meaningful info
http://guerrillaunderground.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=0wtgwue6rxzm4
Also this
http://www.sanderhicks.com/truthparty.html

I would say there is no meaningful report anywhere. My suspicion is this is not good. I'll try to find out some more info and keep you posted.

[Orphia Nay]

http://www.observer.com/2010/daily-transom/lonely-truth-quest-sander-hicks

So basically it was 5 tinfoilers meeting in a café?

[Bell]

http://www.observer.com/2010/daily-transom/lonely-truth-quest-sander-hicks

So basically it was 5 tinfoilers meeting in a café?

That picture of Hicks reminds me of...

47P59ha9k9s

... without the mustache :)

[timhau]

Incidentally, the Truth Party seems to agree with much of the political analysis of Truthers. "Beyond Left and Right, but in a distinct new direction," they tell us.

That's... up the rectum?

[BigAl]

From New York Times Online. There are 300+ comments.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/truth-and-conspiracy-in-the-catskills/?src=sch&pagewanted=all

August 23, 2010, 5:14 pm
Truth and Conspiracy in the Catskills
By STANLEY FISH

A small gathering of 50 or 60 people; roughly 95 percent white, 90 percent male, a few blond-haired kids, average age 45, all nodding in assent as a series of speakers explains that our government is conspiring against us and fabricating massive lies in order to hide its own crimes and frighten us into giving up our constitutional rights and liberties.

The Tea Party? Minutemen? Birthers? No, “Truthers,” left-wing conspiracy theorists who believe (among other things) that 9/11 was an inside job, that no plane hit the Pentagon, that Ted Olson did not receive a call from his wife, Barbara, shortly before she perished in the crash of Flight 77, that the anthrax scare was also a government hoax (although the anthrax was real and deadly), and that hurricane Katrina was the result of weather manipulation by racists or profiteers or both.

...

I distanced myself from my discomfort by regarding the event as theater and inventorying the dramatis personae. They were straight out of central casting. Sander Hicks, the master of ceremonies, looked like an amalgam of Johnny Depp, Sean Penn and Matt Dillon; he kept things moving and implored “put your hands together” as each speaker came to the podium. Paul Zarembka played (and was) the left-leaning academic economist. He said, “The ruling class will do anything to keep in power.” The Rev. Ian Alterman preached gentleness, humility and respect. He said that those who have an investment in the official lies because that’s all they’ve ever heard cannot be approached in a confrontational manner.

But confrontation was obviously the preferred mode of Barry Kissin, the resident rabble-rouser who harangued the audience with the sins of elites who deliberately killed 3,000 of their own citizens and bullied “beleaguered countries” like North Korea and Iran. Nick Bryant tied the same elites to a massive network of pedophiles including almost everyone you’ve ever heard of.

The star turn was taken by architect Richard Gage, founding member of Architects & Engineers for Truth, a group, he said, of 1,200 experts in the area of the construction and destruction of tall buildings. It was Gage, the man of science and the scientific method (another stock character), who laid out the basic thesis from which everything else grew. The twin towers could not have been brought down by fire. A fire, however intense, would have left the steel girders standing, perhaps at an odd angle. The way the towers fell — in free fall, straight down, in only 7 seconds — shows clearly, Gage declared, that the cause was controlled demolition by explosives placed next to the support structures and detonated in a precisely timed sequence. In short, destruction from the inside by insiders and not by a rag-tag group of fanatics who were incapable of flying the planes they supposedly deployed with incredible skill.
...

[carlitos]

7 seconds? Christ.

[LizardLover]

The star turn was taken by architect Richard Gage, founding member of Architects & Engineers for Truth, a group, he said, of 1,200 experts in the area of the construction and destruction of tall buildings.

LOL. 1,200 in the area of the construction and destruction of tall buildings. So landscaping and electrical engineers are from the area of destruction of tall buildings? There is 1 person on there who identifies himself as a demolition expert. Also the people with the B.Sc. in wildlife sciences must have lots of input as the people with their MBA and degree in modern literature have to be helpful in determining freefall speeds and such.

[DGM]

From New York Times Online. There are 300+ comments.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/truth-and-conspiracy-in-the-catskills/?src=sch&pagewanted=all
Conspiracy theories are actually quite entertaining. Fluoride in our water is meant to turn us into communists. Airplane contrails are lacing the atmosphere with mind control drugs (the crackpots call them chemtrails). We never landed on the moon, Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor long beforehand, etc. Some of the best movies I've seen were nothing more than explications of loopy conspiracy theories. I guess real life is too mundane and boring.

I think this from the comments sums it up nicely. Just about everyone I talk to about this sees it this way.

[Miragememories]

I think this from the comments sums it up nicely. Just about everyone I talk to about this sees it this way.
To be expected when you only talk to those who are already in agreement
with you.

Too fracking funny.

MM

[DGM]

To be expected when you only talk to those who are already in agreement
with you.

Too fracking funny.

MM
It's hard not too, only a handful in the world don't.


Sad (for you) but true.

[dc1971]

Oh goodie! A BBQ! I can make potato salad (with or without nano-thermite...some say it improves the flavor).

Just make sure it's 'unignited'!!