President of Iran: "9-11 death toll was exaggerated"

[Thunder]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/ahmadinejad-9-11-death-toll-was-exaggerated-1.306578

what a dick.

what a moron.

what a hero for 9-11 Truth.

:D

...he also discusses the fact that no Israelis were killed on 9-11. But, how many worked in the Twin Towes and escaped that day? I'm sure hundreds.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Wow... "9/11 denier" just became a separate category from "9/11 truther". The terms are no longer interchangeable.

EDIT: I didn't read the article before posting, just the headline. It's the same old "4000 jews didn't show up" crap again. Ignore what I just said, it's business as usual.

[Loss Leader]

Ahmadinejad said there was no evidence that the death toll at New York's World Trade Center, destroyed in the attacks, was as high as reported


He doesn't consider the actual names of the victims to be evidence? "James J. Hobin? There's no way he died at the World Trade Center! I just saw him last week!"

Seriously, you could literally pick up the phone and call the families. We're not exactly looking for the lost city of Atlantis.

[Dog Town]

Mel Brooks:

"Too Jewish!"

Can't believe I'm commenting on "jooboys" OP.

[Thunder]

does anyone have ANY info on how many Israelis worked at the WTC?

[angrysoba]

does anyone have ANY info on how many Israelis worked at the WTC?

You mean so that we can investigate Ahmadinejad's claims?

[beachnut]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/ahmadinejad-9-11-death-toll-was-exaggerated-1.306578

what a dick.

what a moron.

what a hero for 9-11 Truth.
...


"They announced that 3,000 people were killed in this incident, but there were no reports that reveal their names. Maybe you saw that, but I did not," he told a gathering of the Iranian news media.
There is a published list of Sept. 11 dead from more than 90 countries available online.
At least the author/article exposes the idiot at work. Better than the idiots who put Gage on TV and fail to expose his lies and fraud.

This is the perfect leader for 911 truth, pure stupidity and hate.

[Oystein]

does anyone have ANY info on how many Israelis worked at the WTC?

Does anyone have ANY info on how many people with current or past affiliation to the bulldozer industry worked at the WTC?



(I am asking because of my pet fantasy theory that the buildings were bulldozed with the help of nefarious elements at Caterpillar Co.)

[MG1962]

These Israeli nationals obviously didn't get the warning

http://web.archive.org/web/20021104190710/http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1031666147075

[Oystein]

For quick reference, here is a list of the numbers of non-US casualties by country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks#Non-American_casualties

I did some work and translated these numbers into number of deaths per billion inhabitants:

Country fat/bio. Inhab
Country | deaths per 1 billion inhabitants
Bermuda | 16667
Jamaica | 5714
Guyana | 4000
Ireland | 1500
United Kingdom | 1136
Canada | 800
Israel | 714
Lebanon | 714
South Korea | 583
Australia | 579
New Zealand | 500
Portugal | 481
Colombia | 415
Jordan | 364
Lithuania | 303
Moldova | 303
Switzerland | 267
Haiti | 222
Ecuador | 214
Japan | 189
El Salvador | 182
Philippines | 182
Peru | 179
Italy | 175
Mexico | 160
Honduras | 143
Romania | 140
Germany | 134
Chile | 133
Dominican Republic | 125
Malaysia | 120
Argentina | 111
Sweden | 108
Belarus | 100
Belgium | 100
Ghana | 87
Côte d'Ivoire | 63
Netherlands | 60
France | 46
South Africa | 44
Republic of China (Taiwan) | 43
Venezuela | 43
India | 40
Bangladesh | 38
Uzbekistan | 37
Democratic Republic of the Congo | 31
Poland | 26
Spain | 22
Ukraine | 21
Brazil | 16
Russia | 7
Nigeria | 7
Indonesia | 5
China | 3


The first 3 entries are small nations where the death of 1 or few nationals compares to a tiny population.
The next 3 entries are english speaking countries with traditionally friendly terms who have very little obstacles to work in the USA.
Then already comes Israel.

So contrary to popular antisemitic perception, Israel suffered a particularly high death toll. Countries comparable in size and business importance, such as Belgium or Switzerland (a traditional banking country!) suffered less.

There are some conspicuous absentees on the list:

- The biggest country that lost no nationals: Pakistan. If Pakistan is comparable to India and Bangladesh, they should have lost 5 or 6 nationals.
- If Egypt is comparable to Lebanon or Jordan, they should have lost 40
- Turkey
- Iran
- Saudi-Arabia
- Iraq
- Afghanistan

I wonder why Truthers never looked at the numbers of casualties and wondered if the perpetrators had anything to do with Pakistan, Egypt or Saudi-Arabia. Makes a lot more sense than Israel.

[tuc0]

For quick reference, here is a list of the numbers of non-US casualties by country:


I did some work and translated these numbers into number of deaths per billion inhabitants:


I don't think that's really correct.;)

ETA: or maybe it is. you did work it out per billion. what a strange way to look at it...

[Oystein]

I don't think that's really correct.;)

It is correct.

For example Israel:
* 5 dead Israeli nationals
* Israel had about 7 million inhabitants
That's about 0.7 dead per 1 million, or 714 per 1 billion. (Don't grill me on relevant digits - I copied this straight out of a dumb spreadsheet ;))

For example Germany
* 11 dead Germans
* Germany had about 82 million inhabitants
That's about 11/82=0.134 per 1 million, or 134 per 1 billion.


1 billion = 1000 million


ETA: or maybe it is. you did work it out per billion. what a strange way to look at it...

Why? More familiar with per million? I am more comfortable with numbers that have the relevant digits to the left of the decimal point. I can more easily compare 714 (Israel) to 40 (India) than 0.714 to 0.04

[Skeptic]

Israel's ex-Mossad chief laconically said recently that Ahmawhatshisface is one of Israel's greatest assets. You can see his point. Perhaps he is really an Israeli agent, code-named "Pistachio", who went deep undercover just to make Iran look even nuttier than it legitimately is.

[tuc0]

Why? More familiar with per million? I am more comfortable with numbers that have the relevant digits to the left of the decimal point. I can more easily compare 714 (Israel) to 40 (India) than 0.714 to 0.04


For me looking at it as some kind of ratio is strange, millions or billions doesn't really matter. I was just baffled when I saw tiny countries like Bermuda and a reference to billions of inhabitants. :o

[Oystein]

Israel's ex-Mossad chief laconically said recently that Ahmawhatshisface is one of Israel's greatest assets. You can see his point. Perhaps he is really an Israeli agent, code-named "Pistachio", who went deep undercover just to make Iran look even nuttier than it legitimately is.

By the same reasoning, Israel is one of Iran's greatest assets. The more hawkish its government, the better for the Mullahs.

That's why I am fairly certain there won't be a major war involving these two anytime soon.

[Oystein]

For me looking at it as some kind of ratio is strange, millions or billions doesn't really matter. I was just baffled when I saw tiny countries like Bermuda and a reference to billions of inhabitants. :o

Funny, eh?

In the history of 100 meters dash at the Olympic Games, US athletes have won 26 gold medals, Germany took 3 gold medals, Jamaica had 2. This looks like the US sprinters are far and out the best, but they won only twice as much gold as the Germans did compared to (today's) population size; however Jamaica beats USA ten times over in that category :D

[Thunder]

Israel's ex-Mossad chief laconically said recently that Ahmawhatshisface is one of Israel's greatest assets. You can see his point.

Ahmedinejad.

[UNLoVedRebel]

I wonder why Truthers never looked at the numbers of casualties and wondered if the perpetrators had anything to do with Pakistan, Egypt or Saudi-Arabia. Makes a lot more sense than Israel.

Good post. Thanks for the numbers.

And to top it off, the very first person killed in the 9/11 attacks was an Israeli. The AA11 hijackers attacked a Jew first before they got to the cockpit. No one is sure why.

[little grey rabbit]

Good post. Thanks for the numbers.

And to top it off, the very first person killed in the 9/11 attacks was an Israeli. The AA11 hijackers attacked a Jew first before they got to the cockpit. No one is sure why.

well if you are the ones writing the narrative you will always make sure you get star billing.

[beachnut]

Good post. Thanks for the numbers.

And to top it off, the very first person killed in the 9/11 attacks was an Israeli. The AA11 hijackers attacked a Jew first before they got to the cockpit. No one is sure why.
I bet he figured out what they were about to do. He would have ruined their plan.

[Oystein]

Ahmedinejad.

It's Ahmadinejad.

[bill smith]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/ahmadinejad-9-11-death-toll-was-exaggerated-1.306578

what a dick.

what a moron.

what a hero for 9-11 Truth.

:D

...he also discusses the fact that no Israelis were killed on 9-11. But, how many worked in the Twin Towes and escaped that day? I'm sure hundreds.

Ahmaddinejad is no more a 9/11 denier than he is holocaust denier. He is what the Pope would call a 'holocust minimiser' which is obviously not denial. It's probably the same with his view of 9/11.

[AJM8125]

Sorry bill, the new truther has the debunker's attention at the moment, you'll have to be patient.

[bill smith]

Sorry bill, the new truther has the debunker's attention at the moment, you'll have to be patient.


What new Truther ?