Halliburton's overcharging criminal?

[King of the Americas]

If you 'tried' to steal 60 million dollars from a bank, a person, or a corporation, and you get caught, do you just have to give the money back?

I've herd of some judges asking for interest that wouild be accrued on said money(s) to be paid, along with other fines or other punishments to be levied.

However, in regards to Halliburton and their recent actions concerning the mark-up of supplies, I must say President Bush's "If they did overcharge us, I fully expect them to pay the taxpayers back.", isn't 'strong' enough a punishment...if you ask me.

I mean if I tried to get a refund from the IRS in the way of $60 million, because I accidently smudged the figures, I'd be in jail for a long time. Especially, if I were found to do so in an attempt to KEEP the profit I made.

So, were Halliburton's recent overcharges 'criminal'?

And if so, what 'penalty' should they have to face?

[King of the Americas]

...already been discussed, and if so does anyone have the thread title?

[Chaos]

Originally posted by King of the Americas
...already been discussed, and if so does anyone have the thread title?

AFAIK it has not been discussed.


I think the lack of reaction is caused by

...the pro-Bushies being unable to think of any Administration-affiliated entity (which Halliburton is) doing anything wrong, and therefore writing off this thread as pure trolling

...the rest of the Americans getting used of things like what you posted about happening and no longer bothering to reply

...the non-Americans being too busy shaking their heads in wonder how you Americans can stand this

[King of the Americas]

AFAIK it has not been discussed.

*"AFAIK"...?

I think the lack of reaction is caused by

...the pro-Bushies being unable to think of any Administration-affiliated entity (which Halliburton is) doing anything wrong, and therefore writing off this thread as pure trolling

*If by trolling, you mean looking for a debate, then I guess I am. If by trolling you mean to provoke someone, then again you are right.

...the rest of the Americans getting used of things like what you posted about happening and no longer bothering to reply

*I don't think anyone is 'used to' corporations stealing from the taxpayers and getting away with it... Wait. I conceed this point entirely. The Sheeple of America are ill-informed and under appreciative of corporative criminality.

...the non-Americans being too busy shaking their heads in wonder how you Americans can stand this

*I am one of those fighting the stream, trying with everythig I have to beat the current. However, it is not just the current I am fighting, but the brainless twits going with the flow who constantly find theselves in my path.

[Chaos]

*"AFAIK"...?

There was a thread or two about Halliburton, but I think that was about other aspects of this company´s behaviour. I don´t follow such debates too closely; they get tiring soon after the usual suspects (and I don´t mean you) have joined in.

*If by trolling, you mean looking for a debate, then I guess I am. If by trolling you mean to provoke someone, then again you are right.

I didn´t mean that I consider it real trolling. I meant that certain people here consider any mention of...well...questionable behaviour of anyone in any way affiliated with the current administration to be trolling and Bush bashing. Not that they could resist bashing those they disagree with, of course...

*I don't think anyone is 'used to' corporations stealing from the taxpayers and getting away with it... Wait. I conceed this point entirely. The Sheeple of America are ill-informed and under appreciative of corporative criminality.

I must admit that I am a little underwhelmed by the consequences of the last dozen or so corporate scandals - and by the apparent lack of interest by the public, once the initial dust has settled - certain individuals notwithstanding, of course.

*I am one of those fighting the stream, trying with everythig I have to beat the current. However, it is not just the current I am fighting, but the brainless twits going with the flow who constantly find theselves in my path.

"One of those"? Who are the others? Is there anyone else at all? Not that I´d appreciate that less, - to the contrary - but...well...you seem to be quite alone.

[King of the Americas]

There was a thread or two about Halliburton, but I think that was about other aspects of this company´s behaviour. I don´t follow such debates too closely; they get tiring soon after the usual suspects (and I don´t mean you) have joined in.

*Well, never let it be said that I follow every discussion on any board. I usually read the stuff that helps me develope my own arguments upon current events.

I didn´t mean that I consider it real trolling. I meant that certain people here consider any mention of...well...questionable behaviour of anyone in any way affiliated with the current administration to be trolling and Bush bashing. Not that they could resist bashing those they disagree with, of course...

*I think President Bush is really a polarizing figure, and it is increasingly difficult to find a conservative willing and able to defend all of his actions.

I must admit that I am a little underwhelmed by the consequences of the last dozen or so corporate scandals - and by the apparent lack of interest by the public, once the initial dust has settled - certain individuals notwithstanding, of course.

*That is because Americas are mostly "Sheeple", willing and able to follow any guy with a big stick to their slow slaughter.


"One of those"? Who are the others? Is there anyone else at all? Not that I´d appreciate that less, - to the contrary - but...well...you seem to be quite alone.

*I can not find fault with your characterization. I just wish I could.

[fishbob]

If I remember correctly, the $60 million was due to a couple of Halliburton employees doing some dirty deals. I recall that Halliburton fired these individuals, I don't know if they were arrested or charged. Seems to me that the government should arrest the guilty individuals, and that Halliburton and the government should try to recover the $60 mil.

The other Halliburton overcharge issue about overcharging for gasoline seems to have died out. I think that one was mostly whining due to high prices, but the dirty dealers may have been involved in this issue too. I don't remember any reports linking the 2 issues.

[King of the Americas]

I don't know what you stance is, but mine can be found in my initial post.

I think that just having them 'payback the overcharges' isn't strong enough a punishment. I mean where is the incentative NOT to do this again???

I mean they are ONLY going to have to pay back what they took, IF they get caught.

Moreover, I would ask that were these 'individuals' attempting to keep the money(s) they overcharged or was it going into the Halliburton cauffers?

Basically, I think there is a huge lack of accountability in regards to Halliburton's (or their employee's) activities.