Families not allowing coverage shown

[SRW]

I was reading an article from Christoper Hitchens today and came across the following:
Link (http://www.slate.com/id/2263334/) Fourth paragraph.

The supposed "feelings" of the 9/11 relatives have already deprived us all of the opportunity to see the real-time footage of the attacks—a huge concession to the general dulling of what ought to be a sober and continuous memory of genuine outrage.

Could be I have seen to many documentary's and youtube videos. But I was not aware of anyone not showing footage. Does anyone know what specifically he is talking about?

[triforcharity]

It's not clear what the bonehead is rambling on about, but I think it refers to the audio of the crashes from Flt. 93 maybe?

I'm not sure. THe entire article doesn't make alot of sense to me one way or another.

I don't follow religion, or politics much, except for local stuff.

What's his point?

[AJM8125]

As far as not being able to see the attacks in real time?

http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive

Don't know what he means by that.

[leftysergeant]

I think somebody hit himself too hard over the head with a bottle.

[T.A.M.]

As much as i appreciate somethings from Hitchens, man the guy has no sense of ... Respect.

I agree, he is probably referring to the actual audio recordings of what happened on flight 93.

TAM:)

[SRW]

I think somebody hit himself too hard over the head with a bottle.

Just found out he has cancer, I am guessing he is mixing the bottle with his pain meds.

[Oystein]

As much as i appreciate somethings from Hitchens, man the guy has no sense of ... Respect.

That is precisely why I love the man! ;)

I agree, he is probably referring to the actual audio recordings of what happened on flight 93.

TAM:)

What informs your speculation? :confused:

[Bell]

What informs your speculation? :confused:

Are you aware of any footage of any of the planes that is withheld from the public? (Except the hundreds of video's that truthers claim the FBI has confiscated.) He is probably mixing up his facts.

[angrysoba]

Are you aware of any footage of any of the planes that is withheld from the public? (Except the hundreds of video's that truthers claim the FBI has confiscated.) He is probably mixing up his facts.

My guess is that he's referring to some unwritten practice by the media of not wanting to cause distress by showing footage of the attacks.

I don't live in the States so I have no idea if it is commonly done so on the anniversary of 9/11.

From what I know about Hitchens, he probably wants the pictures to be shown often to stir up a feeling of anger against the enemies of the US and may have been told that to do so would be gratuitous.

He is usually pissed off when told that certain images can't be shown, such as those of the Mohammed cartoons for fear of it causing offence and in this case he is saying it is hypocritical to be too precious about hurting people's feelings, after all, why should books such as Satanic Verses be withdrawn just because it causes "large numbers of people" offence? Why should the Mohammed cartoons be banned from being broadcast just because they may cause offence? But then, why should video of 9/11 not be shown because it causes offence and why shouldn't a mosque be built just because it causes offence?

At least that is my interpretation.

[Oystein]

Are you aware of any footage of any of the planes that is withheld from the public? (Except the hundreds of video's that truthers claim the FBI has confiscated.) He is probably mixing up his facts.

No, I am not aware of which footage is withheld, if any, and I am also not aware of all the footage that is available. That's why I wonder that some speculate so specifically about the soundbits from flight 93. After all, the "let's roll" call has entered the national folklore.

[Sam.I.Am]

The only live footage that I know of for sure that is available but isn't shown is the people jumping out of the towers. Except for the first hour or so of the attacks, that footage has been withheld from being aired out of respect for the victims and their families.

[T.A.M.]

That is precisely why I love the man! ;)



What informs your speculation? :confused:

Because those audio recordings were one of the few things that the judge did prohibit from being heard at the moussoui trial...just informed speculation based on that. They were held from public based on request of the families.

TAM:)

[Bell]

No, I am not aware of which footage is withheld, if any, and I am also not aware of all the footage that is available. That's why I wonder that some speculate so specifically about the soundbits from flight 93. After all, the "let's roll" call has entered the national folklore.

Reading Angrysoba's post I think he is right. I was not aware the footage of AA11 or UA175 is not shown on TV in the US. And since these clips are all widely available on the YouTubes, this is what made me wonder what "footage" must be available that has never been "shown" to the public, which let me to believe he was talking about UA93's voice recordings.

[switchpoint]

I was reading an article from Christoper Hitchens today and came across the following:
Link (http://www.slate.com/id/2263334/) Fourth paragraph.



Could be I have seen to many documentary's and youtube videos. But I was not aware of anyone not showing footage. Does anyone know what specifically he is talking about?

I don't think he is referring to any specific piece of footage being banned from public view, just in general there has been a move in the media to kind of self regulate the showing of the footage in respect for the families and to only show it when it passes a self-imposed threshold of being pertinent.

[SRW]

I don't think he is referring to any specific piece of footage being banned from public view, just in general there has been a move in the media to kind of self regulate the showing of the footage in respect for the families and to only show it when it passes a self-imposed threshold of being pertinent.


This makes sense, it is not really the families not allowing the footage shown it is
that the networks are not showing it because it may upset the families.


The only live footage that I know of for sure that is available but isn't shown is the people jumping out of the towers. Except for the first hour or so of the attacks, that footage has been withheld from being aired out of respect for the victims and their families.

True and as I recall this happened very early on and is still not shown.

[dudalb]

As much as i appreciate somethings from Hitchens, man the guy has no sense of ... Respect.

I agree, he is probably referring to the actual audio recordings of what happened on flight 93.

TAM:)

Hey, Hitchens is one of those people who, through often brilliant, gets a great deal of pleasure out of shocking people and pissing them off.

[triforcharity]

This makes sense, it is not really the families not allowing the footage shown it is
that the networks are not showing it because it may upset the families.




True and as I recall this happened very early on and is still not shown.

I think it was The Discovery channel (I could be wrong on this ) but I think they did a documentary called "The Falling Man", and it was quite teastfully done, and at the same time, horrifying.

I cannot even wrap my mind around the hell that the people in those tower were going through that jumping to their certain death was a viable option.

*shudder*

[angrysoba]

The only live footage that I know of for sure that is available but isn't shown is the people jumping out of the towers. Except for the first hour or so of the attacks, that footage has been withheld from being aired out of respect for the victims and their families.

This definitely makes sense.

If Truthers weren't so ghoulish and frankly indifferent to the deaths of those on 9/11 they may have realized that no one is under any obligation to show them all the bodies they want to see.