View Full Version : Rabbi Urges Pig Fat on Buses to Stop Bombers
I'll_buy_that
13th February 2004, 05:20 PM
Ok, someone help me out with this one...
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A prominent Israeli rabbi has proposed hanging bags of pig fat in buses to deter Muslim suicide bombers who may want to avoid contact with an "unclean" animal, an Israeli official said on Thursday.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&e=1&u=/nm/20040213/od_nm/mideast_pig_dc
why don't they just put wooden stakes, holy water and silver bullets on the bus as well.
Do you think someone who is about to blow himself up would be detered by pig fat? :rolleyes:
espritch
13th February 2004, 06:47 PM
Considering that, according to Islamic theology, a martyr is automatically forgiven all sins (including, I assume, contact with unclean animals), I doubt pig fat would make them reconsider for even a moment.
Kopji
13th February 2004, 10:36 PM
Humm, the smell might keep them off.
More likely, after the explosion the rescuers could watch those not killed immediately burn to death in flaming pig oil. Those Rabbis' really got it going on...
The US government was thinking along the same lines a while back, something about promising unclean burial methods for terrorist bodies. (Like, they can find enough afterward).
Sanamas
13th February 2004, 10:47 PM
Ah, this is something one keeps hearing about as a supposed sure fire terrorist deterrant.
The bad news: It won't work.
The good news: future tragedies will have the tasty smell of bacon!
the_ignored
13th February 2004, 11:36 PM
Sad (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?threadid=131657)
I know, I know, I take a lot from there, but it's so cool to see the same thing from two diametrically opposing points of view!:p
RabbiSatan
14th February 2004, 12:16 AM
I have proposed no such thing! Lies! All of it!
But seriously - I do not see how putting bacon on a bus will deter suicide bombers from blowing themselves up - their clerics will just say that their sins will be forgiven and their 72 virgins will still be waiting for them, and thus, the bombings will continue.
The good news: future tragedies will have the tasty smell of bacon!
"I say...was that a Pigasus that flew by just then?!"
Upchurch
14th February 2004, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by I'll_buy_that
Do you think someone who is about to blow himself up would be detered by pig fat? :rolleyes: The thing is, someone who is irrational enough to be enthusiastic about blowing themselves up, might just be irrational enough to be detered by buckets of pig fat.
I think it's kinda clever.
I'll_buy_that
14th February 2004, 06:29 AM
<Homer> mmmmmmmmmmmmm......grilled pig fat </Homer>
LFTKBS
14th February 2004, 07:48 AM
Plus wouldn't the Jews freak out about the pig fat, too?
I mean, it still has the cloven hooves and doesn't chew the cud . . .
Dancing David
14th February 2004, 09:56 AM
Smacks of sympathetic magic of some sort
... I hear that Air Marshalls must carry lard with them at all times!
Quick Captain America , get the Cootie Ray!
Warning: This bus armed with killer attack Cooties!
FireGarden
14th February 2004, 12:46 PM
Holy cow! (pun intended)
But this seems to come up more and more frequently.
Muslims already allow the use of pig products in medicines. In fact, if you take the trouble to look it up in the Qu'ran, you'll see that Muslims can even "get away with" eating pork under certain conditions.
(Using the translation of NJ Dawood):
[5:4] You are forbidden carrion, blood, and the flesh of swine; also any flesh dedicated to any other than God. [...] He that is constrained by hunger to eat of what is forbidden, not intending to commit sin, will find God forgiving and merciful.
[2:173] He hath forbidden you carrion, blood and the flesh of swine; also any flesh that is consecrated other than in the name of God. But whoever is compelled through necessity, intending neither to sin nor to transgress, shall incur no guilt. God is forgiving and merciful.
So hunger is all it takes, not even starvation.
Why would anyone believe that a Muslim would believe non-Muslims would have the "keys to heaven" (as someone once described this fallacy)?
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm
I liked this quote: "Today's popular notion is the concept that a pig is to a Muslim as a crucifix is to a vampire -- simply arm yourself with a porker, and you can use it to render even the most fanatical terrorist helpless, sending him cowering in fear lest he come into contact with anything porcine."
BTW
I still can't post to RaptureReady, all I can access is my usercp. I suppose that they didn't like the name "FireGarden".
Dancing David
Quick Captain America , get the Cootie Ray!
Warning: This bus armed with killer attack Cooties!
Duke Ellington wrote a "Concerto for Cootie".
I didn't realise that it was about Captain America!
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