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RSLancastr
29th August 2010, 11:26 AM
Back in the 90s I was a contract computer programmer for a major producer/distributor of home videos. I worked there for three years (on what was supposed to have been a two-month contract).

Towards the end of my time there, they put a man in charge of the development team I was on. A man who was stunningly incompetent. Not uncommon at all, unfortunately.

I had avoided any socializing with the guy, but on my last day there, I finally accepted his invitation to have lunch together.

We sat at a table out on the sidewalk in front of the restaurant, and started to get to know a bit about each other.

At one point he said "I noticed that you were looking at those UFO books in the book store."

This was true. On the drive over to the restaurant we had passed a book store which had a large display of UFO books in its window, which had caught my eye.

I acknowledged that I had been looking at them, and he perked right up, and started telling me about his obsession with the subject of UFOs. He told me all about the fact that Earth was of tremendous interest to aliens from several different star systems, and they had been observing us, and interacting with us, for centuries.

I was not as firm in my skepticism then as I later became, but I knew that this guy was off his rocker. And, as he continued to Explain The Truth to me, it rapidly became clear that he was, in fact, bat-poop crazy.

You see, not only had these alien species been fighting over Earth all of this time, but they had come down and lived among us. In fact, many of the most prominent people in our history were in fact aliens! After explaining in excrutiating detail the physical description and behavior of each of the species involved, he went on to tell me about various famous aliens in our history. The only one I remember was the fact that Jesus of Nazareth was actually an alien from (I forget which star system). He went on and on about all of this, with absolutely no trace of being kidding. I kept responding with polite remarks like "Really?" and "I did not know that!"

After a while, he apologized for having gone on for so long about it.

I told him that was fine - I enjoyed hearing about people's unusual beliefs. I mentioned that I had, in recent years, learned much about the beliefs of Mormons, from a Mormon co-worker at my previous contract. Up until then, I had thought that Mormons were just another protestant group, much like any other in their beliefs, but I had learned that some of their core beliefs were wildly different.

This intrigued my lunch companion, and he asked "beliefs like what?"

I told him that one of the principal goals of being a Mormon is to be so good that, after you die, you become a God of your own universe. This intrigued him, and he explained how it fit in with his personal alien-centric views. He then asked what other Mormon beliefs were a bit unusual.

I told him that Mormons believed that the God of our universe was once a mortal living on a planet called Kolob (or on a planet near a star called Kolob - there is some argument on this within Mormon circles). This of course intrigued my lunch companion tremendously, and he asked for more unusual Mormon beliefs.

I told him of the Mormon doctrine of the Pre-existence, where souls hang around waiting for a baby to be born so that the soul can enter the baby. He was intrigued, and asked for more.

I told him that Mormons believe that Jesus came to the Americas after he was crucified, and spoke to Native Americans. He was intrigued by this, and this may have been where he confided in me that Jesus was, in fact, an alien, which would of course explain how he could have traveled to the Americas. He asked for more Mormon beliefs. I told him about the Mormon ceremony of Baptism of the Dead, or Baptism by Proxy, wherein a deceased person is baptised as a Mormon via a ceremony where a living Mormon is baptised as the deceased person's proxy.

My lunch companion thought about this for a moment before he said

"Well, that's just stupid."

Through a near-miraculous effort, I did not laugh in his face. Everything else made perfect sense, but Baptism of the Dead was evidently just beyond the pale.

That evening I told my family about this conversation. "Well, that's just stupid." became a catch-phrase around the house, used, for example, when watching a Science Fiction or Fantasy movie which took its wild premise just a bit too far.

leon_heller
29th August 2010, 11:54 AM
Our MD, where I once worked, took me to lunch one day after I'd been there a couple of weeks. I was a bit surprised when he started going on about him having psychic powers, seeing peoples' auras, and also being able to heal people. I just humoured him, as it was an interesting job leading a small team and I was being paid rather well. The company went bust a few weeks later.

Marduk
29th August 2010, 01:12 PM
The only one I remember was the fact that Jesus of Nazareth was actually an alien from (I forget which star system).

He got that from the Watchtower, Jesus came from the same place as Yahweh, flying to earth in a rocket powered chariot
It was the Pleiades (these claims started around 1915). Specifically the Star was Alcyone in the constellation Taurus. It is the brightest star in the Pleiades cluster.

I have also heard a claim that Jesus was an Annunaki from Nibiru, but that post dates your lunch with a woo
;)

RSLancastr
29th August 2010, 01:41 PM
He got that from the Watchtower, Jesus came from the same place as Yahweh, flying to earth in a rocket powered chariot
It was the Pleiades (these claims started around 1915). Specifically the Star was Alcyone in the constellation Taurus. It is the brightest star in the Pleiades cluster.

I have also heard a claim that Jesus was an Annunaki from Nibiru, but that post dates your lunch with a woo
;)

The Pleiades - yes, that's what he said! Dunno if his belief sustem copped it from the Watchtower or vice versa...

Marduk
29th August 2010, 03:16 PM
The Pleiades - yes, that's what he said! Dunno if his belief sustem copped it from the Watchtower or vice versa...

He would have copied it from them, probably via Raelism, which teaches the same thing but is much more publicised
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
:D

EeneyMinnieMoe
29th August 2010, 04:40 PM
I told him that was fine - I enjoyed hearing about people's unusual beliefs. I mentioned that I had, in recent years, learned much about the beliefs of Mormons, from a Mormon co-worker at my previous contract. Up until then, I had thought that Mormons were just another protestant group, much like any other in their beliefs, but I had learned that some of their core beliefs were wildly different.

Me too! :eye-poppi I always thought that the Mormons were a Protestant group just like any other and really knew nothing at all about them, apart from the polygamy thing and the Utah thing. I had heard of Joseph Smith and knew he was their prophet but I knew nothing of his story.

I only learned what the Mormons really believed from that episode of South Park and from some of the things Bill Maher mentioned about them on his show. It came as a total shock to learn what they actually believe and how amazingly different it is from Christianity.

I have a friend who was raised with no religion- she's Korean-American- so she knows very little about Christianity (or any other religion, for that matter). When Mitt Romney ran for President, she asked me out of curiosity what Mormons actually were.

So I entertained her by explaining the kookiest of what Mormons believe- the Garden of Eden was in Jacksonville, Mississippi, Adam and Eve lived in America, Native Americans were a lost tribe of Israel and were turned brown as punishment, the Book of Mormon was a new book of the New Testament, was buried in upstate New York and revealed by a Native American angel to Joseph Smith, that black people couldn't go to heaven except as a slave, etc.

She thought that I was pulling her leg and making all this up. She accused me of inventing all of those things.

I wish. My imagination isn't that good. If it were, I'd be writing best selling books or Hollywood screenplays for a living and not doing what I'm doing for a living right now.

Cainkane1
29th August 2010, 04:56 PM
I was having dinner one night at my watering hole when I had a conversation with a very large strong male nurse. He began talking about madamn Blavatsky and her psychic powers. Looking into his eyes I saw insanity but sincere emotion. He was a good guy but man was he weird. The worlds full of people sincerely into woo.

wasapi
29th August 2010, 06:30 PM
A few years ago when I had a seperate rental cottage, I had a tenant who was good natured and always paid her rent on time, made even better by the fact she was rarely home.

Then, a couple of months after she had been living there she came up to my house and was telling me that one of her cats had died. She didn't seem at all upset, but I still told her how sorry I was. She said, "Oh, that's OK! She and all of my other pets and all of the people in my life that I love will all be on the otherside to greet me, and then, well, like, we'll all be together in heaven!!!"

Uh oh. She took my speechlessness for interest and proceeded to tell me more wonders of the awesomeness of the other-side, spirit-guides, ect.

Finally, I managed to speak, and asked, "And you know all of this - how?"

Her answer: "Oh!!!! Sylvia Brown!!!!!

She lived there for 2 years. We didn't talk a lot. But she always payed her rent on time and she wasn't home much

Julia

RSLancastr
29th August 2010, 07:05 PM
I'm so sorry Julia.

fossilhound
29th August 2010, 08:34 PM
One of my best friends married his 1st wife because she could see and read auras. Apparently I had a beautiful aura. After she told me she could see my aura I considered wearing 2 pairs of underpants. They're divorced now. Presumably she's still reading auras.

It's a way for those with low self-esteem to give themselves a social promotion. "Look what I know," or "Look what I can do. I'm more special than you." It's the same dimentia moderate christian pastors display.

(When I was a kid I had Southern Baptist theology rammed down my throat with a plunger handle. woo woo woo.)

roger
30th August 2010, 05:51 AM
I know these people that actually believe a man was nailed a cross, died on it, was put in a cave, rotted there for three days, then got up like nothing happened. Some of these nutters further believe that it rained so much that mount Everest was covered in water - which would require rain to fall at something like 16 ft per hour. Absolute nuts.

I am not trying to be "funny" - just point out that most of the people we encounter (in America, at least) believe crazy things. But in the context of our culture it does not seem so crazy just because we are so used to hearing it.

But to me it is all the same. Believe in ghosts or life after death? Believe in alien spacecraft? All on bump-in-the-night levels of "evidence"? It is all the same to me.

rjh01
30th August 2010, 01:57 PM
Actually Jesus was dead for only a day and half. He was put in the cave Friday night then Sunday morning he was missing.

Ref. The bible.

quixotecoyote
30th August 2010, 02:23 PM
Actually Jesus was dead for only a day and half. He was put in the cave Friday night then Sunday morning he was missing.

Ref. The bible.

Yeah, but that was Good Friday so it was a long weekend.

bobhope2112
30th August 2010, 02:34 PM
One of my best friends married his 1st wife because she could see and read auras. Apparently I had a beautiful aura. After she told me she could see my aura I considered wearing 2 pairs of underpants.

Wait, wait, wait. There's a step missing here. Why should you wear two pairs of underpants?

I've heard the phrase about rainbows shining from people's backsides, but had always assumed it was metaphoric. Even if it's not, why would you want to stifle your "beautiful aura." What in the world could she have meant?

mactonite
30th August 2010, 04:59 PM
Believe it or not, it's not easy to leave the Mormon church either. I have a couple of family members that were harassed by many visits from Mormons after they left the church. Only after several moves are they free and clear.