9/11 State of Emergency

[BCR]

On September 9, 2010 there will be a special airing on the History Channel (http://www.history.com/schedule/9/9) at 9 pm (EDT) called "9/11 State of Emergency". I'm not sure of the entire contributor list, but I know a few JREF members did assist with the project. I have not seen the final cut since the producer cannot send out a copy until after the show airs, so I'll be watching it for the first time with the rest of you.

This ground-breaking documentary tells the story of 9/11 in the words of key political and military leaders, and ordinary men and women who suddenly found themselves on the frontlines of a new kind of war. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dick Myers, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and a host of other top officials take viewers deep inside the corridors of power during the most dramatic day of the century, offering fresh insights into the unprecedented state of emergency that was 9/11.

[16.5]

Interesting, History Channel discussing History.

Looks worthwhile. The oldest has been asking some questions about 9/11 recently.

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

I can hear the loons now: It's all a lie!

[TruthersLie]

Actually the most interesting show (IMHO) will be the telephone calls from the towers which is showing on 9/11 on the discovery channel.

maybe we can here those "explosives" going off in the background... Or maybe someone will say something like "hey the walls are glowing, and I see a river of molten steel."

[Myriad]

Actually the most interesting show (IMHO) will be the telephone calls from the towers which is showing on 9/11 on the discovery channel.


That (or a very similar documentary) aired last year.

Perhaps it doesn't need to be said that it's extraordinarily painful to watch.

Nothing about molten steel that I can recall; quite a bit about desperate frightened people reaching out for help or for loving voices in their final minutes of life.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[TruthersLie]

That (or a very similar documentary) aired last year.

Perhaps it doesn't need to be said that it's extraordinarily painful to watch.

Nothing about molten steel that I can recall; quite a bit about desperate frightened people reaching out for help or for loving voices in their final minutes of life.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Ah.. I haven't seen it before, and they are advertising it right now (here in the UAE).

I concur, those phone calls would be (and will be) heartbreaking to listen to.

[Sabretooth]

That (or a very similar documentary) aired last year.

Perhaps it doesn't need to be said that it's extraordinarily painful to watch.

Nothing about molten steel that I can recall; quite a bit about desperate frightened people reaching out for help or for loving voices in their final minutes of life.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Agreed. I had to force myself to watch the whole thing. Truly heartbreaking.

[Bell]

That (or a very similar documentary) aired last year.

Perhaps it doesn't need to be said that it's extraordinarily painful to watch.

Nothing about molten steel that I can recall; quite a bit about desperate frightened people reaching out for help or for loving voices in their final minutes of life.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Do you know what the show is called?

[Justin39640]

Actually the most interesting show (IMHO) will be the telephone calls from the towers which is showing on 9/11 on the discovery channel.

maybe we can here those "explosives" going off in the background... Or maybe someone will say something like "hey the walls are glowing, and I see a river of molten steel."

Don't forget... the mics in phones are designed to pick up noises only a few inches from the mouthpiece. There is no way that you can tell what's an explosion in a taped phone conversation. [/MM,C7 mode]

[Bell]

No explosions can be heard in the Kevin Cosgrove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Cosgrove) tape.

[Myriad]

Do you know what the show is called?


I believe the actual title of the Discovery Channel documentary is "9/11: Phone Calls from the Towers." I'm not 100% certain that's the same documentary as the one on that subject I recall watching last year, but Web sources confirm that it was first broadcast in the U.S. last year.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[Bell]

I believe the actual title of the Discovery Channel documentary is "9/11: Phone Calls from the Towers." I'm not 100% certain that's the same documentary as the one on that subject I recall watching last year, but Web sources confirm that it was first broadcast in the U.S. last year.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Thank you Myriad.

[jaydeehess]

Intrigued, I was about the thread title. Wasn't what I thought it was though. I had thought you were wondering about the war measures , permanent state of emergency, curfews and police state regulations (ala "1984"), not to mention a third GWB term(or the election of his brother to POTUS) we are supposed to be living with by now.

[jaydeehess]

I watched some of that show last year I believe. Too painful, not a pressing need for me to hear those.

[jhunter1163]

Once heard, it cannot be unheard. I don't want to hear.

[triforcharity]

Once heard, it cannot be unheard. I don't want to hear.

I agree. I've heard too much death in my life, and could go without listening to it again.

But, the show that WD mentions might be worth watching.

Of course, my favorite documentary on 9/11 is "9/11" by the Naudet Brothers. Excellent!

[UNLoVedRebel]

Don't forget... the mics in phones are designed to pick up noises only a few inches from the mouthpiece. There is no way that you can tell what's an explosion in a taped phone conversation. [/MM,C7 mode]I still LOL when I see your avatar.

:dl: :dl:

[BCR]

Bump as reminder that the show airs this evening at 9 (EDT) on the History Channel.

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Gonna watch it tonight. I'm pretty sure the Truthers will be in an uproar!

[Sam.I.Am]

This or The Mythbusters playing with fire... That's a pretty tough call.

[WildCat]

I might watch it after the Saints wipe the floor with the Viqueens tonight.

[triforcharity]

TIVO my friends, TIVO.

[dudalb]

Interesting, History Channel discussing History.

Looks worthwhile. The oldest has been asking some questions about 9/11 recently.

History on the History Channel is becoming as rare as Music Videos on MTV....

[dudalb]

This or The Mythbusters playing with fire... That's a pretty tough call.

Not really . BOth will be repeated ad infinitum in the next few days or so...

[gs20]

i wonder what the secret service thinks of this show?...i seriously doubt there was any chance they would have let the president go back to the white house........it scares me that the destruction of two buildings, a small section of the pentagon, four plane crashes and the ensuing cell phone tsunami completely cripples us gov't secure cell communications........i amworried about the NSA wandering around the white house at a total loss other than yelling at the president not to come back which the SS would not have allowed anyway, all the while apparently not seeking intelligence on the attack from the appropriate agencies.....even though we now know they had lots to tell her if she had asked........i find it quite bizarre the freakin secretary of defense is humping a stretcher in what i heartfelt was a self-agrandizing photo op instead of being spirited away to a secure area to what?.........maybe do his freakin job?.......he puts me in mind of the unqualified politicians who fenagled military rank during the civil war in order to advance their political careers......all in all, a highly disturbing demonstration that we are truly wasting our money paying these hacks to protect us...........it was effective in attempting to explain why the president just sat their condescending a bunch of tiny tots instead of bowing out gracefully with some sort of dispatch and getting into the air.........or maybe not...............i am a little uncomfortable however, with the intersection of the unbelievable stories of individual bravery on the part of certain regular working citizens and the apparently total confusion and paralysis on the part of our leaders?............no, wait a minute, i'm very uncomfortable with that...........but what can i do, i am as much a dinosaur as donald rumsfeld, but i am so sorry for the incredibly impotent condoleeza rice because she thought it was all "just terrible"..............yeah, i'll say.

[Newtons Bit]

What.

The.

:rule10 ?

[jaydeehess]

History on the History Channel is becoming as rare as Music Videos on MTV....

Hmmm, not in Canada. Still history on H.C. here.http://www.history.ca/ontv/default.aspx?schedtod=eve&DateDelta=0
Now 'learning' on TLC, that's a different story.

[beachnut]

i wonder what the secret service thinks of this show?...i seriously doubt there was any chance they would have let the president go back to the white house........it scares me that the destruction of two buildings, a small section of the pentagon, four plane crashes and the ensuing cell phone tsunami completely cripples us gov't secure cell communications........i amworried about the NSA wandering around the white house at a total loss other than yelling at the president not to come back which the SS would not have allowed anyway, all the while apparently not seeking intelligence on the attack from the appropriate agencies.....even though we now know they had lots to tell her if she had asked........i find it quite bizarre the freakin secretary of defense is humping a stretcher in what i heartfelt was a self-agrandizing photo op instead of being spirited away to a secure area to what?.........maybe do his freakin job?.......he puts me in mind of the unqualified politicians who fenagled military rank during the civil war in order to advance their political careers......all in all, a highly disturbing demonstration that we are truly wasting our money paying these hacks to protect us...........it was effective in attempting to explain why the president just sat their condescending a bunch of tiny tots instead of bowing out gracefully with some sort of dispatch and getting into the air.........or maybe not...............i am a little uncomfortable however, with the intersection of the unbelievable stories of individual bravery on the part of certain regular working citizens and the apparently total confusion and paralysis on the part of our leaders?............no, wait a minute, i'm very uncomfortable with that...........but what can i do, i am as much a dinosaur as donald rumsfeld, but i am so sorry for the incredibly impotent condoleeza rice because she thought it was all "just terrible"..............yeah, i'll say.


Cell phones don't work when we all use them; we all pay for something that does not really work when we may want to use it! We are fools who pay too much for something ATT and others are making mega profits for.

If I was the president I would go where I wanted! I am the president; screw the SS. We also have 350 million candidates for President.

Too late for the SECDEF to do anything about 911; he is not the tip of the spear.

What can leaders do? Go ahead list what they can do when they don't know what is really happening.

[Sam.I.Am]

Not really . BOth will be repeated ad infinitum in the next few days or so...

Turns out I watched the fire and fireworks a few miles down the road from me instead...

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9600/lasanbrunofire001l8ifgy.jpg

[ProBonoShill]

Hmmm, not in Canada. Still history on H.C. here.http://www.history.ca/ontv/default.aspx?schedtod=eve&DateDelta=0
Now 'learning' on TLC, that's a different story.

Has anyone seen this program?

Is this the Popular Mechanics episode?


http://www.history.ca/ontv/titledetails.aspx?titleid=120280

[Retrograde]

Turns out I watched the fire and fireworks a few miles down the road from me instead...

I hope you continue to be OK - that is one scary fire!

(for those outside of the Bay Area, a gas main exploded early this evening near the San Francisco airport, destroying over 50 houses and killing at least one person. It's still burning.

[Sam.I.Am]

I hope you continue to be OK - that is one scary fire!

(for those outside of the Bay Area, a gas main exploded early this evening near the San Francisco airport, destroying over 50 houses and killing at least one person. It's still burning.

I'm about 5 miles away. It sounds like it's under control.

[dudalb]

Turns out I watched the fire and fireworks a few miles down the road from me instead...

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9600/lasanbrunofire001l8ifgy.jpg

Same here. I am in Sacramento, and the Gas explosion got massive coverage, and I was glued to my set for that.

[DGM]

Same here. I am in Sacramento, and the Gas explosion got massive coverage, and I was glued to my set for that.
There was no "gas explosion". I read this morning that it sounded like a bomb went off and I saw burnt out cars! This can only mean, DEW's and explosive demolition.


SHEEPIE!!!!!!



:D

[BCR]

There was no "gas explosion". I read this morning that it sounded like a bomb went off and I saw burnt out cars! This can only mean, DEW's and explosive demolition.
SHEEPIE!!!!!!
:D

NWO operation fer sure.

[djlunacee]

What.

The.

:rule10 ?

I'm with you.

[Miragememories]

i wonder what the secret service thinks of this show?...i seriously doubt there was any chance they would have let the president go back to the white house........it scares me that the destruction of two buildings, a small section of the pentagon, four plane crashes and the ensuing cell phone tsunami completely cripples us gov't secure cell communications........i amworried about the NSA wandering around the white house at a total loss other than yelling at the president not to come back which the SS would not have allowed anyway, all the while apparently not seeking intelligence on the attack from the appropriate agencies.....even though we now know they had lots to tell her if she had asked........i find it quite bizarre the freakin secretary of defense is humping a stretcher in what i heartfelt was a self-agrandizing photo op instead of being spirited away to a secure area to what?.........maybe do his freakin job?.......he puts me in mind of the unqualified politicians who fenagled military rank during the civil war in order to advance their political careers......all in all, a highly disturbing demonstration that we are truly wasting our money paying these hacks to protect us...........it was effective in attempting to explain why the president just sat their condescending a bunch of tiny tots instead of bowing out gracefully with some sort of dispatch and getting into the air.........or maybe not...............i am a little uncomfortable however, with the intersection of the unbelievable stories of individual bravery on the part of certain regular working citizens and the apparently total confusion and paralysis on the part of our leaders?............no, wait a minute, i'm very uncomfortable with that...........but what can i do, i am as much a dinosaur as donald rumsfeld, but i am so sorry for the incredibly impotent condoleeza rice because she thought it was all "just terrible"..............yeah, i'll say.
A religion demands faith regardless of any temptations to believe otherwise.

Those who adhere to the Church of the Official Conspiracy Theory will continue to keep faith in any power structure that continues to promote their beliefs.

MM

[Sabretooth]

A religion demands faith regardless of any temptations to believe otherwise.

Those who adhere to the Church of the Official Conspiracy Theory will continue to keep faith in any power structure that continues to promote their beliefs.

MM

Pot and kettle logistics at work :)

[Pardalis]

A religion demands faith regardless of any temptations to believe otherwise.

Those who adhere to the Church of the Official Conspiracy Theory will continue to keep faith in any power structure that continues to promote their beliefs.

MM

You actually understood what he was babbling about?

Edited for Rule 0.

[Donal]

I don't think gs20 was ranting off with a CT. It reads to me like he is just dissatisfied with the Bush Admin's response to the day.

[Miragememories]

I don't think gs20 was ranting off with a CT. It reads to me like he is just dissatisfied with the Bush Admin's response to the day.
Dissatisfied?

Mysterious or suspicious is more to the point.

The President, Mr. Big himself, is at a well publicized location and those
sworn to move him to safe haven sit back and let him read children's stories?

The SS wasted no time moving Cheney out of harms way.

MM

[Sam.I.Am]

Dissatisfied?

Mysterious or suspicious is more to the point.

The President, Mr. Big himself, is at a well publicized location and those
sworn to move him to safe haven sit back and let him read children's stories?

The SS wasted no time moving Cheney out of harms way.

MM

They moved Cheney about 100' away into a shelter more than 20 minutes after the second hit on the WTC. This was about the same time that they moved Bush to Air Force 1.

Sounds to me like they "Wasted" plenty of time before Cheney was moved out of his office.

[Bell]

A small school in Florida was as much at threat as the White House was :confused:

[triforcharity]

Turns out I watched the fire and fireworks a few miles down the road from me instead...

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9600/lasanbrunofire001l8ifgy.jpg

Holy ****. Stay safe. It's a miracle more were not killed in that explosion.

[MikeW]

Just noticed this story that explains how the audio in 9/11 State of Emergency was "enhanced":

Prime Focus Sound Designer and Mixer Phitz Hearne, who recently won an Emmy for his work on Nutopia's 'America The Story of Us,' ensured the aural landscape matched the visual presentation. "The client really wanted to maintain the gritty realism of the archive footage," said Phitz. "We wanted to increase the impact of the sound whilst keeping its realism, so we made sure it stayed within the 'recorded on a camcorder' feel. It needed to feel as though it was amateur, but it also needed to have a broadcast production value to it."

"A lot of the archive footage audio needed to be rebuilt," added Phitz, "so we found slightly more realistic sounding clips - bangs, explosions, girder creaks - and built the atmosphere that the badly recorded camcorder sound could lie on. We tried to be very sympathetic to the historical situation - it’s not even been 10 years and there are people for whom it is as fresh in their mind today as it was when it happened."
http://news.creativecow.net/story/864668

Thought I'd post the details here for reference, just in case a particular "bang" or "explosion" turns up in a YouTube video as evidence of something dubious.

[Chuck Guiteau]

A religion demands faith regardless of any temptations to believe otherwise.

Those who adhere to the Church of the Official Conspiracy Theory will continue to keep faith in any power structure that continues to promote their beliefs.

MM

Atheist: " Can you, as a priest, give me a technically viable theory as to the existence of God that is consistent with the known facts?"

Priest: (deathly silence)

Sane person to MM: " Can you, as a truther who has claimed to have evidence of a conspiracy other than the 19 Terrorist Conspiracy, give us a technically viable theory that is consistent with the known facts?"

MM: (deathly silence)

Good one, MM.:p

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

MM is just mad cause he/she doesn't have any evidence to prove any of us in this sub-forum wrong.

MM, don't be mad because you can't show us the evidence. Be mad at the Truthers who duped you into their lies & fairy stories. We didn't do that to you, you made a choice to spend countless hours reading & watching pure BS from Truthers. They've brainwashed you & you took their ignorance based on a whim & a hunch.

You're guilty by association, if you would distance yourself from the Truthers you wouldn't be guilty.

We're trying to steer you the right way, but you don't want any help.