3287 days

[uke2se]

Hey all!

As the clock winds down to the 9th anniversary of the attacks on September 11, 2001, it has now been 3287 days without the twoof movement getting anywhere. Let's take a moment and summarize what has happened with the movement during these nine years.

For reference:

It took 2979 days from Kennedy announcing his support for the Apollo program as part of a special address to a joint session of Congress to Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon.

It took 1397 days from FDR giving the go-ahead for the development of an atomic weapon to the first atomic bomb being dropped on Hiroshima.

It took 3285 days from the meeting of the First Continental Congress to the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

To measure the achievements of the twoof movement, let's use the goals set in this (http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070111110921739) blog post from 2006 by Dr. Jones:

1. Get very solid evidence that a crime was committed -- focusing on the best evidence, enough to "prove" the case.
2. Then, use that evidence to demand and support an investigation;
3. Get as much public support as possible to help encourage the investigation;
4. Have a goal of organizing such an investigation in 2007.

Let's also include goals such as the impeachment of "criminals", the overthrowing of corrupt governments and the support of academia for the "Cause".

[Miragememories]

Hey all!

As the clock winds down to the 9th anniversary of the attacks on September 11, 2001, it has now been 3287 days without the twoof movement getting anywhere.

We have made major progress.

The OCTER argument has been retreating to constant whining for quite some time.

Nothing but a litany of repetition is all I see.

Rarely a reasoned argument from OCTers.

MM

[Disbelief]

We have made major progress.

The OCTER argument has been retreating to constant whining for quite some time.

Nothing but a litany of repetition is all I see.

Rarely a reasoned argument from OCTers.

MM

Says the poster who refuses to back a claim with evidence or retract it. Says the poster who constantly dodges questions. Says the poster who whines constantly about other posters. Says the poster who never has any real argument.

[Miragememories]

Says the poster who refuses to back a claim with evidence or retract it. Says the poster who constantly dodges questions. Says the poster who whines constantly about other posters. Says the poster who never has any real argument.
Says the poster who does nothing but ignore reasoned argument and replies with more pointless questions.

MM

[Disbelief]

Says the poster who does nothing but ignore reasoned argument and replies with more pointless questions.

MM

So, it is pointless to ask you to back up a specific claim. Great debating style.

[uke2se]

We have made major progress.

The OCTER argument has been retreating to constant whining for quite some time.

Nothing but a litany of repetition is all I see.

Rarely a reasoned argument from OCTers.

MM

Oh, so you have achieved great success on obscure internet forums? I wouldn't put that up against the Manhattan Project, the Apollo Program or the War of Independence, but to each his own, I guess.

Anyone else? Let's reminisce on the achievements of the twoof movement.

[beachnut]

Hey all!

... it has now been 3287 days without the twoof movement getting anywhere. Let's take a moment and summarize what has happened with the movement during these nine years.

For reference:

It took 2979 days ... Apollo program as part of a special address to a joint session of Congress to Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon.

It took 1397 days ... first atomic bomb being dropped on Hiroshima.

It took 3285 days from the meeting of the First Continental Congress to the signing of the Treaty of Paris.


It took minutes for Flight 93 passengers to figure out 911 and take action to stop terrorists. 911 truth has taken thousands of days to fail, and improve on that failure by repeating their failed lies for 9 years.

911 truth is based on failure, ignorance and lies.


Says the poster who does nothing but ignore reasoned argument and replies with more pointless questions.

This sums up the truth movement, made by a truth movement supporter with no evidence, unable to figure out 911 after 9 years of failure.

[Oystein]

Hey all!

As the clock winds down to the 9th anniversary of the attacks on September 11, 2001, it has now been 3287 days without the twoof movement getting anywhere. Let's take a moment and summarize what has happened with the movement during these nine years.

For reference:

It took 2979 days from Kennedy announcing his support for the Apollo program as part of a special address to a joint session of Congress to Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon.

It took 1397 days from FDR giving the go-ahead for the development of an atomic weapon to the first atomic bomb being dropped on Hiroshima.

It took 3285 days from the meeting of the First Continental Congress to the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

It took Hitler 2405 days from taking over a depressed country to throwing into all-out war. It took him 1174 days to conquer all of Eastern Europe up to Stalingrad, on the Volga river, and 899 days to lose it all and capitulate.


On the other hand, during the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's musical composition "Organ²/ASLSP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_As_Possible)", which started 6 days before 9/11 (with a pause/silence lasting 546 days), they have so far only played 9 different chords :p

[DGM]

Says the poster who does nothing but ignore reasoned argument and replies with more pointless questions.

MM
Show us one "reasoned argument".

(Don't forget it has to follow to some conclusion)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Anyone else? Let's reminisce on the achievements of the twoof movement.


I don't know about anyone else, but they've kept me mildly entertained these past 3287 days. I have no problem throwing a few points their way for that.

[uke2se]

Updated OP with some yardsticks to measure achievement.

[SezMe]

Was Christophera's thread the longest one here? Or at least in the 911 subforum? Or the most links to the same url in one thread? That's not to be sneezed at.

[uke2se]

Was Christophera's thread the longest one here? Or at least in the 911 subforum? Or the most links to the same url in one thread? That's not to be sneezed at.

The realstice thread?

[Miragememories]

Show us one "reasoned argument".

(Don't forget it has to follow to some conclusion)
So far I've seen little evidence that you understand the concept.

MM

[jhunter1163]

Was Christophera's thread the longest one here? Or at least in the 911 subforum? Or the most links to the same url in one thread? That's not to be sneezed at.

I'm sure it was the longest in CT. There was a Bigfoot thread that went over 20,000 posts, and I think the original "Three Word Story" thread was around 24,000.

[R.Mackey]

Oh, so you have achieved great success on obscure internet forums? I wouldn't put that up against the Manhattan Project, the Apollo Program or the War of Independence, but to each his own, I guess.

Anyone else? Let's reminisce on the achievements of the twoof movement.

Here's the metric I use. ;)

It's been nine years tomorrow since Sept. 11th. How much research could one do in nine years?

Well, a typical undergraduate degree takes four years to finish. After that, graduate school. Ph.D. tracks are less structured, but the average is five years to completion.

So let's suppose that on Sept. 11th, you saw what happened, and it didn't add up for you. Doesn't matter who you are -- kid fresh out of high school, retiree, working a coffee shop, sysadmin at some small company, blue collar, teacher, liberal arts degree, no degree, doesn't matter. In nine years you'd have time to go to college and become a bona fide, credentialled, world leading expert in any field you want.

Doesn't matter what it is you couldn't understand. Maybe the key is a problem of physics. Maybe aeronautics. Structural engineering. Analytical chemistry? Electrical engineering? Doesn't matter. You have two years to figure out which approximate branch of science is the best one to answer your own personal question. You have two more years to narrow it down to a single field. After that, five years working with a professor to nail it down precisely, and from there tailor your own course of study. Your personal mystery motivates your undergraduate thesis, your graduate research, and your dissertation.

In the process of earning your Ph.D., the average student produces three conference papers and two journal papers (as second author, but that's the price of doing business). All on your topic of choice. Your advisor will also help you with facilities, with funding, open access to real libraries, conference travel, exchange students, the works.

So in nine years, basically anyone, any individual, could answer once and for all any scientific question about Sept. 11th, while producing more papers than the entire Truth Movement worldwide has accomplished, singlehandedly. And after it was done, be wiser and vastly more marketable for having done it.

Amazingly, this has not happened. :boggled:

There is only one credible explanation of "why," and that explanation reflects rather poorly on the Truth Movement.

[T.A.M.]

We have made major progress.

The OCTER argument has been retreating to constant whining for quite some time.

Nothing but a litany of repetition is all I see.

Rarely a reasoned argument from OCTers.

MM

lol...at this rate of "major progress" you better pass the torch on to your children, and tell them to prepare to do the same.

TAM:rolleyes:

[Sword_Of_Truth]

We have made major progress.

The OCTER argument has been retreating to constant whining for quite some time.

Nothing but a litany of repetition is all I see.

Rarely a reasoned argument from OCTers.

MM


From the "impacts and fires did it" crowd: More than 3 dozen peer-reviewed scientific and technical papers proving the "official" version of what happened on 9/11. (http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/peer-reviewedpapersaboutthewtcimpacts%2Cfi)

From the tinfoilers: Zero... zip, zilch, nada, not a single bloody one.

[SezMe]

The realstice thread?
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of.