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BigAl
12th September 2010, 09:37 AM
I'm a big fan of the New York Public Library and I know that even the best libraries have problems with what category to put pseudo-science in. I also believe libraries take guidance from the publishers.

It irks me that DRG's The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions is #2 on the list right behind the Commission report. He has another entry way down on the list.

I don't recognize #3: The 5 Unanswered Questions About 9/11: What the 9/11 Commission Report Failed to Tell Us by James Ridgeway and there are several Twoofer DVDs on the list.

Thinking about it, it's a really crappy list. We could all list books that should be on it.

The NYPL page page takes comments. Hint hint.
If you a card carrying member, there is "ask a librarian" by email that has been for me, a very satisfactory service in the past. I may send them a question about DRG when I get my thoughts together. At the very least, I an ask that it be listed under Commentary with the other crap.

Here's the list:


http://www.nypl.org/blog/2010/09/11/9-11-01-materials-available-nypl


The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, 2004
Print 973.931 N
Government Document

The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions
David Ray Griffin
973.931 G

The 9/11 Investigations: Staff Reports of the 9/11 Commission: Excerpts from the House-Senate Joint Inquiry Report on 9/11: Testimony from Fourteen Key Witnesses, including Richard Clarke, George Tenet, and Condoleezza Rice
edited by Steven Strasser
363.3209 N

The 5 Unanswered Questions About 9/11: What the 9/11 Commission Report Failed to Tell Us
James Ridgeway
973.931 R

Al-Qaeda: Casting a Shadow of Terror
Jason Burke
I.B. Tauris, 2003
303.625 B
Spanish Spa 303.625 B

Al Qaeda: In Search of the Terror Network that Threatens the World
Jane Corbin
Thunder Mouth Press/Nation Books, 2002
973.931 C


For Children

14 Cows for America
Carmen Agra Deedy
Peachtree Publishers, 2009
J 327.67 D

Commentary

9-11
Noam Chomsky
Seven Stories Press, 2002
327.117 C

9.11.01: Terrorists Attack the U.S.
Patrick Lalley
973.931 L

9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press
David Ray Griffin
Olive Branch Press, 2008
973.931 G

After shock: September 11, 2001, Global Feminist Perspectives
Susan Hawthorne and Bronwyn Winter, editors
973.931 A

The Age of Terror: America and the World After September 11
edited by Strobe Talbott and Nayan Chanda
Basic Books, 2001
973.931 A

Another World is Possible: New World Disorder: Conversations in a Time of Terror
Edited by Jee Kim
Subway & Elevated Press, 2001
327.73 A

Infrastructure

9/11 and the Future of Transportation Security
R. William Johnstone
Praeger Security International, 2006
363.3259 J

Above & Below: MTA New York City Transit responds to 9/11
presented by MTA New York City Transit
MTA NYC Transit, 2002
VC 974.7104 A

After the World Trade Center: Rethinking New York City
Michael Sorkin and Sharon Zukin, editors
Routledge, 2002
711.4097 A

American Ground, Unbuilding the World Trade Center
William Langewiesche
North Point Press, 2002
974.7104 L
Audiobook 974.7104 L
Large Print LG PRINT 974.7104 L

Personal Accounts

102 Minutes: The Untold Story of the Fight to Survive Inside the Twin Towers
Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn
Times Books, 2005
074.7104 D

9-11: Meditations at the Center of the World
Eugene Kennedy
Orbis Books, 2002
242.4 K

After: How America Confronted the September 12 Era
Steven Brill
Simon & Schuster, 2003
973.931 B
Audiobook 973.931 B
Video

7 Days in September
CameraPlanet Pictures, directed by Steven Rosenbaum
AnchorBay Entertainment, 2004
DVD 974.71 S

The 11th of September: Moyers in Conversation
Thirteen, Public Affairs Television
New Video Group, 2001
DVD 973.931 E

102 Minutes that Changed America
produced by Siskel/Jacobs Productions for History
A&E Television Networks, 2008
DVD 973.931 O

9/11
directed by Jules Naudet, Gedeon Naudet, James Hanlon
Paramount Pictures, 2002
DVD 363.3497 N

9/11: Blueprint for Truth, the Architecture of Destruction
video producers, Ken Jenkins, Hummux, 911TV.org; director, Ken Jenkins
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, 2008
DVD 974.7104 N

The 9/11 Chronicles: Part 1, Truth Rising
written and directed by Alex Jones
infowars.com, 2008
DVD 973.931 N

9/11: Press for Truth
Banded Artists Productions and Standard Issue Films
Disinformation Company, 2006
DVD 973.931 N

Aftermath: Unanswered Questions From 9/11
Guerrilla News Network
Disinformation Co., 2005
DVD 973.931 A

Al Qaeda After 9/11
Distributed by Discovery Education, 2006
DVD 363.3209 A

America Rebuilds
a production of Great Projects Film Company and Shadowbox Films
PBS Home Video, 2006
DVD 363.3497 A
War on Terror

Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror
Richard A. Clarke
Thorndike Press, 2004
363.3209 C
Large Print LG PRINT 973.931 C
World Perspectives

21-seiki no sensō
Bungei Shunjū hen
Bungei Shunj, 2001
Jpn 327.117 Nijuisseiki

9.11 : Seputenbā irebunsu : ano hi kara Amerikajin no kokoro wa dō kawatta ka
Reizei Akihiko.
Shgakukan, 2002
Jpn 973.931 Reizei, Aki

11-S: historia de una infamia: las mentiras de la "version oficial"
Bruno Cardeñosa.
Corona Borealis, 2003
Spa 973.931 C

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BigAl
12th September 2010, 10:29 AM
This list was compiled by by Jean Harripersaud, head of Adult Services at the Bronx Library Center.

I'm going to ask him that the list be expanded and re-ordered to put the truth crap under commentary if it's going to be there at all.

beachnut
12th September 2010, 10:33 AM
This list was compiled by by Jean Harripersaud, head of Adult Services at the Bronx Library Center.

I'm going to ask him that the list be expanded and re-ordered to put the truth crap under commentary if it's going to be there at all.
At best DRG books are political; filed in politics. I thought that is where they were in the library. They need to be put in the Fantasy section.

I found at our local library some of the 911 lies junk in the political section.

T.A.M.
12th September 2010, 11:10 AM
I assume one of two things here.

(A) He has not read the book, and based on the title of the DRG book, took it as an update, revision, companion to the original 9/11 Commission Report.
(B) He is flurting with truthism.

TAM:)

BigAl
16th September 2010, 03:03 AM
Never mind

T.A.M.
16th September 2010, 03:35 AM
why nevermind....did you get a reply back?

TAM:)

Sword_Of_Truth
16th September 2010, 03:47 AM
Bill Smith will join this thread shortly to say something stupid and asinine.

njslim
16th September 2010, 12:18 PM
Books by Grrin should be circular filed , along with any crap by Stephen Jones and Loose Change Version 1 to infinity....

BigAl
16th September 2010, 01:24 PM
why nevermind....did you get a reply back?

TAM:)

I got a "we will pass this on to the web team" response a couple days ago. I asked that the page be taken down pending a rewrite but it's still there.

Miragememories
16th September 2010, 03:11 PM
This list was compiled by by Jean Harripersaud, head of Adult Services at the Bronx Library Center.

I'm going to ask him that the list be expanded and re-ordered to put the truth crap under commentary if it's going to be there at all.

Not everyone is as bigoted as you and your cronies here AL.

DRG's books are well researched and certainly non-fiction.

Next you'll want any history books you take a dislike to removed.

More Nazification of America.

MM

BigAl
16th September 2010, 03:33 PM
Not everyone is as bigoted as you and your cronies here AL.

DRG's books are well researched and certainly non-fiction.


Read http://www.jod911.com/drg_nist_review_1_0.pdf




Next you'll want any history books you take a dislike to removed.


I'm not asking that the library remove the books from the shelves. As much as I would like to, that would be wrong.

I'm asking that the book titles not be included in a reading list with fact-based books unless there is a fiction category.


More Nazification of America.

MM

Not here.

Sword_Of_Truth
16th September 2010, 03:48 PM
Not everyone is as bigoted as you and your cronies here AL.

Only 95.4% of us (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/09/so-much-for-84.html).

JerryGarcia
16th September 2010, 04:04 PM
FWIW most public libraries use call numbers assigned by the Library of Congress.

Most books are assigned a Dewey Decimal or a Library of Congress call number before they are even published.

http://cip.loc.gov/

If you open a book and look at the inside title page, you'll find the number assigned. It's usually next to a bunch of subject headings similar to what you see in your library's catalog

beachnut
17th September 2010, 02:09 PM
Not everyone is as bigoted as you and your cronies here AL.

DRG's books are well researched and certainly non-fiction.

Next you'll want any history books you take a dislike to removed.

More Nazification of America.

MM
DRG books are hearsay and lies. And you can't prove a single point DRG makes. For 911 truth it is more characterized as the NaziStupidfication of themselves. 911 truth are the truth-NAZIs. Pushing moronic lies.

DRG books should not be removed, they are political, or non-fiction, your choice; since you can't figure out 911, or the fact DRG sells lies, maybe you can classify this book; but you were wrong, it in only non-fiction in the fact it proves DRG is a liar on 911 issues. That is the truth part, which requires you understand reality to grasp.

Walter Ego
18th September 2010, 02:35 AM
A notable omission from the list is The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Looming_Tower) by Lawrence Wright.

Myriad
18th September 2010, 12:16 PM
Derail and off-topic posts moved to AAH. Please stay on topic.

Miragememories
18th September 2010, 01:14 PM
DRG books are hearsay and lies. And you can't prove a single point DRG makes. For 911 truth it is more characterized as the NaziStupidfication of themselves. 911 truth are the truth-NAZIs. Pushing moronic lies.

DRG books should not be removed, they are political, or non-fiction, your choice; since you can't figure out 911, or the fact DRG sells lies, maybe you can classify this book; but you were wrong, it in only non-fiction in the fact it proves DRG is a liar on 911 issues. That is the truth part, which requires you understand reality to grasp.
DRG provides a well researched and thoughtful approach to the events of 9/11.

He doesn't rely on your bigoted spambot approach to disagreeing with an argument.

MM

AJM8125
18th September 2010, 01:23 PM
DRG provides a well researched and thoughtful approach to the events of 9/11.

He also thinks buildings can be brought down with thermite, they fell in their own footprints and a being speaks to him from the sky who tells him he'll be living in the sky one day too.

fuelair
18th September 2010, 01:30 PM
Not everyone is as bigoted as you and your cronies here AL.

DRG's books are well researched and certainly non-fiction.

Next you'll want any history books you take a dislike to removed.

More Nazification of America.

MM

Not removed, that is censorship. Merely appropriately placed as fiction or commentary rather than non-fiction. For, fiction they are.:)

Miragememories
18th September 2010, 01:36 PM
He also thinks buildings can be brought down with thermite, they fell in their own footprints and a being speaks to him from the sky who tells him he'll be living in the sky one day too.
So bringing your religious bigotry to the argument somehow makes your argument more sound?

I'm an atheist but prefer to judge people on the basis of what they have to say rather than pre-judging them because I don't agree with their religious views.

MM

AJM8125
18th September 2010, 01:48 PM
So bringing your religious bigotry to the argument somehow makes your argument more sound?

I'm an atheist but prefer to judge people on the basis of what they have to say rather than pre-judging them because I don't agree with their religious views.

MM

Well, there's also the little matter of believing in theremite and perfect building collapses, but your dodging of that part of what I said is duly noted. You can come off your soapbox anytime now.

Miragememories
18th September 2010, 01:58 PM
Well, there's also the little matter of believing in theremite and perfect building collapses, but your dodging of that part of what I said is duly noted. You can come off your soapbox anytime now.
If you had not insisted on bolstering your case by pointing a finger at DRG's religious beliefs, I might have been convinced you were open to a reasoned discussion.

Thermite does indeed exist and I'm certain that DRG does not believe any building can be collapsed like a cut diamond.

Your flogging a dead horse if you think the old 'fell into its own footprint' incorrectness represents some kind of fatal blunder.

MM

beachnut
18th September 2010, 02:08 PM
If you had not insisted on bolstering your case by pointing a finger at DRG's religious beliefs, I might have been convinced you were open to a reasoned discussion.

Thermite does indeed exist and I'm certain that DRG does not believe any building can be collapsed like a cut diamond.

Your flogging a dead horse if you think the old 'fell into its own footprint' incorrectness represents some kind of fatal blunder.

MM
It is called stupidity, and selling lies. DRG has nothing right about 911 except the date. And you can't save him.

If any of DRG claims were correct he would have a Pulitzer Prize. 9 years of failure and you support him with nothing but attacks on other people. Not any credible support for DRG. And your post proves it.

His book is fictional claptrap. He fooled you. You should be mad but you remain in ignorance, happy to fail at supporting him.

AJM8125
18th September 2010, 02:15 PM
Your flogging a dead horse if you think the old 'fell into its own footprint' incorrectness represents some kind of fatal blunder.

MM

What kind of blunder do you call it when that keeps being repeated then?

gnome
19th September 2010, 01:00 PM
Isn't it correct that classifying a book as non-fiction has nothing to do with its accuracy? I imagine they'd have to clear a lot out of that section if we're holding them to that standard.