Daily Show 9/11 Truth Reference

[grandmastershek]

The Daily Show is hosting the Rally to Restore Sanity on Oct 30th in DC. Among other recommended signs to display they have suggested "9/11 Was an Outside Job".

[Orphia Nay]

I just watched the episode on TV. :rule10 it was funny! And spot on!

Here's a link to the online clip:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-16-2010/rally-to-restore-sanity

NYCCAN'T were saying they were going to air their "Building What" ad during the Daily Show. Nice to see Jon Stewart going on the record about truthers. :thumbsup:

He also compared truthers to birthers. :D

Here's a link to a "Rally to Restore Sanity" Facebook page you can "Like" and show your support:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-To-Restore-Sanity/155382737812809

And here's another one where you can post that you're attending the rally:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=118856078167623

[T.A.M.]

arrgghhh

Comedy network in Canada only has the 15th and below up yet....grrrrrr

TAM:)

[DaveThomasNMSR]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

[fourtoe]

Oh Stewart, stay gold.

[T.A.M.]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

South Park, The Onion, and Now the Daily Show...

If I were an angry young truther, I would have to throw in the towel at this point...all your favorite media has given you the bird.

TAM:)

[beachnut]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

truthers miss the real truth movement

[grandmastershek]

I am kicking around going. If I do my sign will say "Keep your 'truth'. I prefer the facts".

BTW-Colbert's spot was pretty funny. March to Keep Fear Alive. Maybe I'll go to that one with a poster of Alex Jones & Glenn Beck saying "Fear has never been so profitable".

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

I am so jealous of that audience. I went to a taping in early August. I would have loved to have been at that one.

If anyone else is going we should post it here and have a JREF group....make some cheap t shirts or something. I will say up front though I can't guarantee I am going.

[Chorduroy]

Outstanding! In the continual frustration that is debunking truthers, a little humiliation can go a long way sometimes.

[bardamu]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

Many truthers would agree.

[T.A.M.]

really? Oh so you think the 9/11 attacks were done by who then, bardamu?

TAM:)

[Orphia Nay]

Many truthers would agree.

Thanks, bardamu, but we already know truthers are equivocators.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Many truthers would agree.

We know.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/img/911-outside-job.png

You people are disgustingly predictable that way.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

I like whenever celebrities mention 9/11 truth, especially when it’s supposedly been dead for years now. I really liked it when Rescue Me incorporated it into the show. As far as 9/11 truth goes any publicity is good publicity. Leibowitz should have Daniel Sunjata on the show some time and have a real discussion about 9/11. It’s good that Leibowitz can laugh about 9/11 these days instead of shake and cry. It wasn’t always that way. Funny man.

[T.A.M.]

I like whenever celebrities mention 9/11 truth, especially when it’s supposedly been dead for years now. I really liked it when Rescue Me incorporated it into the show. As far as 9/11 truth goes any publicity is good publicity. Leibowitz should have Daniel Sunjata on the show some time and have a real discussion about 9/11. It’s good that Leibowitz can laugh about 9/11 these days instead of shake and cry. It wasn’t always that way. Funny man.

Give it up already...you guys are a joke...they are MAKING FUN OF YOU. YOU WILL NEVER, EVER be taken seriously. YOU HAD YOUR MOMENT...it was 2006.

You are right though, given the truth movement is almost non existent, any attention is better then no attention...isn't it.

TAM:)

[triforcharity]

"Best part" Just think of Mario's mustache with Wario's personality!!" LOL!!

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Give it up already...you guys are a joke...they are MAKING FUN OF YOU. YOU WILL NEVER, EVER be taken seriously. YOU HAD YOUR MOMENT...it was 2006.

You are right though, given the truth movement is almost non existent, any attention is better then no attention...isn't it.

TAM:)

Well my my you sound angry. Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010? Who would have thunk it back in 2006? Did you?

[T.A.M.]

Well my my you sound angry. Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010? Who would have thunk it back in 2006? Did you?

No doesn't bother me in the slightest. As a matter of fact, I would pay good money to watch Jon Stewart hang the retards of the truth movement out to dry every night of the week for the next 10 years.

I am just telling you that you can give up with this false bravado, that any publicity is good publicity...no it isn't. It might be for artists, actors, etc... but not for a group that wants their cause to be taken seriously...mockery is the coffin nail...and your group has had the best of the best (south park, the onion, Bill Maher, now Jon Stewart) make fun of you.

But you interpret my response anyway you like...what ever gets you through the night...

TAM:)

[jaydeehess]

Well my my you sound angry. Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010? Who would have thunk it back in 2006? Did you?

A topic? Its a topic of ridicule. Main stream media, when it does mention the 911 conspiracies, is making fun of them for the most part and certainly in the shows mentioned in this thread.

Do you suppose also that the news coverage of the listeria contamination of Maple Leaf foods products was good publicity for the company?

[Sivan Kurzberg]

No doesn't bother me in the slightest. As a matter of fact, I would pay good money to watch Jon Stewart hang the retards of the truth movement out to dry every night of the week for the next 10 years.

Well he's already had 9 years as have the rest of you. What's taking so long? And if it doesn’t bother you then why all the CAPS like you’re yelling?

I am just telling you that you can give up with this false bravado, that any publicity is good publicity...no it isn't. It might be for artists, actors, etc... but not for a group that wants their cause to be taken seriously...mockery is the coffin nail...and your group has had the best of the best (south park, the onion, Bill Maher, now Jon Stewart) make fun of you.
TAM:)

And I would just like to know why someone like you would get so giddy about Leibowitz putting down 9/11 truth in 2010. Why bother right? Why does the Onion, why does Maher bother? What does Leibowitz know about 9/11 anyway? Except that it made him cry.

He’s a funny guy. If he thinks so little of truthers you need to wonder what he would think of people who spend their life obsessing about them.

[T.A.M.]

Well he's already had 9 years as have the rest of you. What's taking so long? And if it doesn’t bother you then why all the CAPS like you’re yelling?



And I would just like to know why someone like you would get so giddy about Leibowitz putting down 9/11 truth in 2010. Why bother right? Why does the Onion, why does Maher bother? What does Leibowitz know about 9/11 anyway? Except that it made him cry.

He’s a funny guy. If he thinks so little of truthers you need to wonder what he would think of people who spend their life obsessing about them.

The CAPS? Well most of your ilk are so lost in your own world, I find putting certain things in ALL CAPS is the only way to get you to pay attention...

If he knew the reason most of us do it...namely so that those not as knowledgeable, those who could be taken in and convinced by your charlatan snake oil salesmen brethren, can find a place where people have looked at the truther bullcrap, and shown it for what it is, he would probably thank us.

Does make you wonder though, why smart, funny people like Bill Maher, and Jon Stewart side with us on this issue...and think you guys are nut jobs...why is that I wonder.

I guess they are just dumb sheeple too right...lol

Like I said, what ever allows you to sleep at night.

TAM:)
TAM:)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

A topic? Its a topic of ridicule. Main stream media, when it does mention the 911 conspiracies, is making fun of them for the most part and certainly in the shows mentioned in this thread.

It's not ridiculed by all in the mainstream. I already pointed that much out. Leibowitz is a comedian. A clown. I can find plenty from the mainstream that given the chance could wipe the floor with Leibowitz on the topic of 9/11 and leave him in a puddle of snot and his own piss just like he was right after 9/11 happened.

Do you suppose also that the news coverage of the listeria contamination of Maple Leaf foods products was good publicity for the company?

Hardly the same thing.

[T.A.M.]

It's not ridiculed by all in the mainstream. I already pointed that much out. Leibowitz is a comedian. A clown. I can find plenty from the mainstream that given the chance could wipe the floor with Leibowitz on the topic of 9/11 and leave him in a puddle of snot and his own piss just like he was right after 9/11 happened.



Hardly the same thing.

Name one PERSON, one, from the mainstream media, who even SUPPORTS the ridiculous truther theories on 9/11.

Unless you are talking about your little actor friend sunjata...not media, but I guess he is somewhat mainstream...While yer at it, go get ed asner and ed bagley jnr to help out, and finish it off with a charlie sheen.

lol

TAM:)

[jaydeehess]

Well he's already had 9 years as have the rest of you. What's taking so long? And if it doesn’t bother you then why all the CAPS like you’re yelling?



And I would just like to know why someone like you would get so giddy about Leibowitz putting down 9/11 truth in 2010. Why bother right? Why does the Onion, why does Maher bother? What does Leibowitz know about 9/11 anyway? Except that it made him cry.

He’s a funny guy. If he thinks so little of truthers you need to wonder what he would think of people who spend their life obsessing about them.

Oh, I get it. This is the 'if we are so ca-ca-crazy, then why do people respond to us' and the 'if people respond to us we must not be ca-ca-crazy' thing.

Personally I just cannot abide stupidity being propigated as 'truth' and choose to expose it for what it is. If a little levity gets injected into the subject I'm all for it.

[Grizzly Bear]

Moon hoaxers also enjoy TV exposure decades after they sprang up and are still irrelevant. Who'da thunk it? :)

Though I'd personally be a little more retracted in my enthusiasm if the only attention I was getting for it was a mention in a comedian's joke... Just my thoughts on it...

[jaydeehess]

It's not ridiculed by all in the mainstream. I already pointed that much out. Leibowitz is a comedian. A clown. I can find plenty from the mainstream that given the chance could wipe the floor with Leibowitz on the topic of 9/11 and leave him in a puddle of snot and his own piss just like he was right after 9/11 happened.

.

The topic here IS the ridicule being heaped upon the 911 conspiracists by a comedian and several other comedy shows. What serious main stream media attention of this topic are you refering to?

BTW is there a reason why you refer to JS as Leibowitz? Are you in the habit of refering to all celebrities by their birth names?

[T.A.M.]

The topic here IS the ridicule being heaped upon the 911 conspiracists by a comedian and several other comedy shows. What serious main stream media attention of this topic are you refering to?

BTW is there a reason why you refer to JS as Leibowitz? Are you in the habit of refering to all celebrities by their birth names?

Look at his chosen username...I am guessing it isn't his real name, and I am guessing he blames a particular religion (not Islam) and its followers for 9/11.

just a hunch

TAM:)

[Orphia Nay]

A topic? Its a topic of ridicule.

Quoted for truth (small T).

BTW is there a reason why you refer to JS as Leibowitz? Are you in the habit of refering to all celebrities by their birth names?

I had no idea he was talking about Jon Stewart. I suspect his "reason" has nothing to do with Reason.

[jaydeehess]

Many truthers would agree.

right, so in typical 911 conspiracy fashion we now have their battle cry of '911 was an inside job' and the polar opposite of '911 was an outside job' being held as valid at the same time.

Why does it come up so often that we get told by 911 conspiracists that two diametrically and mutually exclusive ideas are both true at the same time?

[jaydeehess]

Quoted for truth (small T).



I had no idea he was talking about Jon Stewart. I suspect his "reason" has nothing to do with Reason.

born Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.

[jaydeehess]

Look at his chosen username...I am guessing it isn't his real name, and I am guessing he blames a particular religion (not Islam) and its followers for 9/11.

just a hunch

TAM:)

I had not picked up on that.
thx

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Name one PERSON, one, from the mainstream media, who even SUPPORTS the ridiculous truther theories on 9/11.

Unless you are talking about your little actor friend sunjata...not media, but I guess he is somewhat mainstream...While yer at it, go get ed asner and ed bagley jnr to help out, and finish it off with a charlie sheen.

lol

TAM:)

Did you forget who Leibowitz is? He is a comedian. A clown. He'll tell you that himself just like he told Carlson Tucker on CNN. No better than an actor like Sheen or Sunjata who I already mentioned. Maher is a comedian and the Onion is a bunch of jokers. Plenty in the mainstream are 9/11 truthers or debunkers if you like. It's still a hot issue.

And speaking of Sheen how does ABC keep paying him the big bucks to get huge ratings if what Sheen believes is truly so wacky and offensive to most of America? Ever wonder about that? Maybe you debunkers should write some letters and boycott some sponsors. Isn't there enough of your types around to get him blackballed? You know he is the highest paid sitcom actor on TV these days.

We also have plenty of experts in the proper fields willing to go on the record. But you already know that.

[UNLoVedRebel]

He’s a funny guy. If he thinks so little of truthers you need to wonder what he would think of people who spend their life obsessing about them.Because, as a comedian, truthers give him a lot of material to work with. For example, there was a poster here who had a fat wife, who compared WTC 7 to a barbecue.

[AJM8125]

It's not ridiculed by all in the mainstream. I already pointed that much out. Leibowitz is a comedian. A clown. I can find plenty from the mainstream that given the chance could wipe the floor with Leibowitz on the topic of 9/11 and leave him in a puddle of snot and his own piss just like he was right after 9/11 happened.

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?albumid=199&pictureid=3742

[T.A.M.]

Did you forget who Leibowitz is? He is a comedian. A clown. He'll tell you that himself just like he told Carlson Tucker on CNN. No better than an actor like Sheen or Sunjata who I already mentioned. Maher is a comedian and the Onion is a bunch of jokers. Plenty in the mainstream are 9/11 truthers or debunkers if you like. It's still a hot issue.

And speaking of Sheen how does ABC keep paying him the big bucks to get huge ratings if what Sheen believes is truly so wacky and offensive to most of America? Ever wonder about that? Maybe you debunkers should write some letters and boycott some sponsors. Isn't there enough of your types around to get him blackballed? You know he is the highest paid sitcom actor on TV these days.

We also have plenty of experts in the proper fields willing to go on the record. But you already know that.

Stewart is more then a comedian, as is Bill Maher. They are both political pundits, both democratic ones.

As for Sheen, they pay him because he is funny, and hence the show is popular. No one really give a **** about his political views or opinions, which is why we all laugh when you trot out your list of actors that support your silly claims. Hollywood still accept Polanski the Pedophile, I think they will tolerate truther wifebeater sheen.

You have a lot of self proclaimed experts, and yet how many of them have put out papers where they use their knowledge in the area of alleged expetise to explain where the govt or NIST or others got it wrong? hmmm?

Gage - DRG parrot
S. Jones - Physicist talking about materials science and paint chips.
DRG - A theologian
Judy Wood - No plane Space beam believer - nuff said.

But please, prove me wrong, show me all the published (truther journals dont count) works your experts have provided to enlighten the general public.

Oh wait, is this where you cry foul, that the scientific community won't publish your theories and papers...awww...wanna tissue?

TAM:)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Because, as a comedian, truthers give him a lot of material to work with. For example, there was a poster here who had a fat wife, who compared WTC 7 to a barbecue.

I remember when Bush was in office he gave the Daily show, Maher, and the Onion plenty of material too. In fact I bet none of them could believe how they had absolutely no impact when Bush was reelected and continued to push through whatever he wanted.

[T.A.M.]

I remember when Bush was in office he gave the Daily show, Maher, and the Onion plenty of material too. In fact I bet none of them could believe how they had absolutely no impact when Bush was reelected and continued to push through whatever he wanted.

Face it, if Stewart came out giving you guys a break, you would be trotting him out like he was God. You are just being a sore loser...but it is ok...9 years of trying to sell the snake oil, only to have him tell you, and everyone watching, that it is just that...

TAM:)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?albumid=199&pictureid=3742

Got Kleenex handy? You never know when you're gonna start crying on your comedy show.

Doesn't Beck hate the truthers and cry also? Two different political spectrum pundits can't avoid 9/11 truth 9 years later.

[T.A.M.]

Got Kleenex handy? You never know when you're gonna start crying on your comedy show.

Doesn't Beck hate the truthers and cry also? Two different political spectrum pundits can't avoid 9/11 truth 9 years later.

you're right, it is too easy a target for mockery...even 9 years later.

TAM:D

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Face it, if Stewart came out giving you guys a break, you would be trotting him out like he was God. You are just being a sore loser...but it is ok...9 years of trying to sell the snake oil, only to have him tell you, and everyone watching, that it is just that...

TAM:)


If he showed he actually knew something about the topic I might. See you don't even need to know if he has any knowledge about the topic before you trot him out.

[AJM8125]

Got Kleenex handy? You never know when you're gonna start crying on your comedy show.

The only time I've been close to crying on this board was from the laughter inspired by this idiot that really wanted to know why thermal expansion doesn't collapse his charcoal grill.

And he was serious.

He wasn't laughing.

But I am.

lol

Doesn't Beck hate the truthers and cry also? Two different political spectrum pundits can't avoid 9/11 truth 9 years later.

You watch Beck? The guy's a tool. No wonder you have issues.

[UNLoVedRebel]

I remember when Bush was in office he gave the Daily show, Maher, and the Onion plenty of material too. In fact I bet none of them could believe how they had absolutely no impact when Bush was reelected and continued to push through whatever he wanted.But at the same time, logical arguments have had no impacts on truthers and their fat wives have continued to eat whatever they wanted.

[UNLoVedRebel]

The only time I've been close to crying on this board was from the laughter inspired by this idiot that really wanted to know why thermal expansion doesn't collapse his charcoal grill.

And he was serious.

He wasn't laughing.

But I am.

lol



You watch Beck? The guy's a tool. No wonder you have issues.

:dl: :dl:

[T.A.M.]

If he showed he actually knew something about the topic I might. See you don't even need to know if he has any knowledge about the topic before you trot him out.

Like I said, whatever makes you sleep...but we all know....

Mockery is the worst form of ridicule to a truther.

say HI to Sunjata, and say HI to asner, and say HI to sheen for me, won't you.

TAM:)

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Doesn't Beck hate the truthers and cry also? Two different political spectrum pundits can't avoid 9/11 truth 9 years later.

TV personalities attract the attention of stupid people.

TV personalities that host political commentary shows attract the attention of stupid people with political agendas.

If Beck and Stewart both quit their jobs and became just average joes, they would likely never see another truther the rest of their lives.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

But at the same time, logical arguments have had no impacts on truthers and their fat wives have continued to eat whatever they wanted.


Fat wives? Well alright then?

[T.A.M.]

TV personalities attract the attention of stupid people.

TV personalities that host political commentary shows attract the attention of stupid people with political agendas.

If Beck and Stewart both quit their jobs and became just average joes, they would likely never see another truther the rest of their lives.

Hey I happen to enjoy Jon Stewart...I laughed so hard at his segment in the OP that I thought I would pee myself.

Don't dis good political humor...

TAM:D

[Sivan Kurzberg]

[QUOTE=T.A.M.;6346173]Like I said, whatever makes you sleep...but we all know....

Mockery is the worst form of ridicule to a truther.

say HI to Sunjata, and say HI to asner, and say HI to sheen for me, won't you.

TAM:)[/QUOTE

He can mock all he wants. I'll still watch him I think he is funny. I would tell those people hi for you if I knew them. Never said did. Do you know Leibowitz?

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Hey I happen to enjoy Jon Stewart...I laughed so hard at his segment in the OP that I thought I would pee myself.

Don't dis good political humor...

TAM:D

Wasn't suggesting that either of them quit, I was just pointing out to Sivan that truthers are all but non existent and easy to avoid for those of us not in places that they target for their antics.

[UNLoVedRebel]

He can mock all he wants. I'll still watch him I think he is funny. I would tell those people hi for you if I knew them. Never said did. Do you know Leibowitz?What I want to know is what you know what Stuart knows what happened on 9/11 and I want to know how you know what Stuart knows.

[T.A.M.]

Why yes, he is my half jewish brother...I mean my jewish half brother.

TAM (Thomas Abraham Muslimowitz)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

The only time I've been close to crying on this board was from the laughter inspired by this idiot that really wanted to know why thermal expansion doesn't collapse his charcoal grill.

And he was serious.

He wasn't laughing.

But I am.

lol



You watch Beck? The guy's a tool. No wonder you have issues.

I didn't say you were crying I meant Leibowitz. Watch Beck? What channel is he on? I heard him on the radio. He's nuts. He has the same view point about truthers as most of you here though.

[Sam.I.Am]

As I seem to recall all of the people who had comedy shows (Late Night, The Late Show, The Tonight Show, The Daily Show etc) spent at least 10 minutes of their first shows after 9/11 talking about the decision to come back and whether if it was maybe too soon to do so. All of them had teary eyed hosts and guests for the first few days back on the air. Hell, some of them had hardened newsmen on as guests who got "Blubbery" and "Snot nosed" when discussing the attacks and their own feelings while delivering the news as it happened. I'm not sure what your point is by pointing out that well known people are also humans and have human feelings.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Why yes, he is my half jewish brother...I mean my jewish half brother.

TAM (Thomas Abraham Muslimowitz)

Mazel tov

[T.A.M.]

I didn't say you were crying I meant Leibowitz. Watch Beck? What channel is he on? I heard him on the radio. He's nuts. He has the same view point about truthers as most of you here though.

Yes, and like most of the world. Similarly, he also believes the world is round. Look he is right twice...just like a broken clock. Apart from that though, I think he is a freaking nutbar...just like most of your fellows.

TAM:)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

If he showed he actually knew something about the topic I might. See you don't even need to know if he has any knowledge about the topic before you trot him out.


Why the double standard? It's not like being a truther requires any knowledge on the topic...

[T.A.M.]

Why the double standard? It's not like being a truther requires any knowledge on the topic...

No he meant truther knowledge.

TAM;)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

As I seem to recall all of the people who had comedy shows (Late Night, The Late Show, The Tonight Show, The Daily Show etc) spent at least 10 minutes of their first shows after 9/11 talking about the decision to come back and whether if it was maybe too soon to do so. All of them had teary eyed hosts and guests for the first few days back on the air. Hell, some of them had hardened newsmen on as guests who got "Blubbery" and "Snot nosed" when discussing the attacks and their own feelings while delivering the news as it happened. I'm not sure what your point is by pointing out that well known people are also humans and have human feelings.

I said I'm glad he can laugh now and make jokes. He knows nothing about 9/11 as far as truthers and debunking goes.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I said I'm glad he can laugh now and make jokes. He knows nothing about 9/11 as far as truthers and debunking goes.


Wait, so now you've narrowed "the topic" down to "truthers and debunking" instead of just "9/11". Well, I personally wouldn't blame him for not knowing much about that; in the big picture neither are all that significant. Merely knowing that either side exists is enough.

[Dog Town]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

Better yet, a new avatar...MINE!

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Why the double standard? It's not like being a truther requires any knowledge on the topic...

That was my point. It's not like putting down a truther requires any knowledge of the topic in your world. Ignorance is bliss.

[Orphia Nay]

Better yet, a new avatar...MINE!

:D :thumbsup:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

That was my point. It's not like putting down a truther requires any knowledge of the topic in your world. Ignorance is bliss.


I'm confused. Are you insulting yourself here?

It's not like putting down a truther requires any knowledge of the topic in your world.


Do you believe that the reverse is true?

[AJM8125]

That was my point. It's not like putting down a truther requires any knowledge of the topic in your world. Ignorance is bliss.

Wrong.

Putting down a truther does require knowledge of the topic, which is easily comprehended by elementary school students nation wide.

Sadly, this seems to bust the hump of all 9/11 truth scholars.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

What I want to know is what you know what Stuart knows what happened on 9/11 and I want to know how you know what Stuart knows.

I know.

[Dog Town]

I know.

Are you the Shadow?

[Sivan Kurzberg]

I'm confused. Are you insulting yourself here?

No.

Do you believe that the reverse is true?

Why would I?

[triforcharity]

Why yes, he is my half jewish brother...I mean my jewish half brother.

TAM (Thomas Abraham Muslimowitz)

So you both a Jew-ISH???? :D:D:D

[Dog Town]

Why would I?

Wait a second...I thought you knew!:D

[portlandatheist]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave

Most excellent.

[Walter Ego]

Well my my you sound angry. Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010? Who would have thunk it back in 2006? Did you?

From "The Beast" on A&E (2009). Anyone wanna play "chicken foot?" :D

JkLNiHvG3OE

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010?

So are UFOs, dragons and vampires.

[Walter Ego]

BTW is there a reason why you refer to JS as Leibowitz? Are you in the habit of refering to all celebrities by their birth names?

I think the reason is pretty obvious.

Sb-qXrQ2v3E
Edit: Sivan Kurzberg was wheel man of the so-called "Dancing Israelis." Need I say more?

The driver was Sivan Kurzberg. The other passengers included his brother, Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari...

http://www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html

[fitzgibbon]

Well my my you sound angry. Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010? Who would have thunk it back in 2006? Did you?

'truthers' are a punchline, a coda, a topic for ridicule. I wouldn't be so chuffed for my 15 minutes of fame if it included 1 second of stunned silence and the remaining 14:59 of scorn.

[fitzgibbon]

I said I'm glad he can laugh now and make jokes. He knows nothing about 9/11 as far as truthers and debunking goes.

He recognises pompous, self-important, ill-informed fools because they're his stock-in-trade. And it isn't just now that he's laughing and making jokes; it's been for years because the 'truth' movement is the proverbial gift that keeps on giving.

'truthers' know nothing about 9/11 and wilfully keep it that way pretending to believe in all sorts of special foolishness that the vast, vast majority recognise for the snake oil it is. Turn off your computer and you'll soon realise that 'truthers' aren't some latter day chosen people; they're just ill-informed goofs. Mind you, them spending 40 years in the wilderness does sound appealing on some level. :D

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Edit: Sivan Kurzberg was wheel man of the so-called "Dancing Israelis." Need I say more?


Is there some rule about using a real person's name when you're not that person? He's clearly not trying to impersonate Mr. Kurzberg, but still...

[grandmastershek]

Well my my you sound angry. Does it really bother you that much that 9/11 conspiracy is still a topic on mainstream TV in 2010? Who would have thunk it back in 2006? Did you?

Congratulations...you guys now have something else in common with creationists.

[grandmastershek]

If he showed he actually knew something about the topic I might. See you don't even need to know if he has any knowledge about the topic before you trot him out.

I would recommend the lists of people paraded around at the various appeal to authority sites truthers regularly defer to in place of evidence.

[fess]

It's not ridiculed by all in the mainstream. I already pointed that much out.
Ever since the truth movement shot themselves in the ass, it’s hardly ever mentioned anymore.
Leibowitz is a comedian. A clown.
Then he should fit right in with you folks. You know, like you, BS, and Jammy, you are all clowns with no circus.
I can find plenty from the mainstream that given the chance could wipe the floor with Leibowitz on the topic of 9/11 and leave him in a puddle of snot and his own piss just like he was right after 9/11 happened.
I hope you checked you blood pressure after that little tirade.

[Walter Ego]

Is there some rule about using a real person's name when you're not that person? He's clearly not trying to impersonate Mr. Kurzberg, but still...

No, there's no "rule" about using a real person's name, even the name of an obscure person like Silvan Kurzberg, and there's no "rule" about referring to Jewish comedians by their "real" (i.e., given "Jewish") names either but generally a person who consistently does the former is, dollars to doughnuts, an anti-Semite. The use of the name Kurzberg (a Mossad agent according to the truthers) as pseudonym is the cincher.

[Justin39640]

right, so in typical 911 conspiracy fashion we now have their battle cry of '911 was an inside job' and the polar opposite of '911 was an outside job' being held as valid at the same time.

Why does it come up so often that we get told by 911 conspiracists that two diametrically and mutually exclusive ideas are both true at the same time?

Inside-out job?

[Sivan Kurzberg]

No, there's no "rule" about using a real person's name, even the name of an obscure person like Silvan Kurzberg, and there's no "rule" about referring to Jewish comedians by their "real" (i.e., given "Jewish") names either but generally a person who consistently does the former is, dollars to doughnuts, an anti-Semite. The use of the name Kurzberg (a Mossad agent according to the truthers) as pseudonym is the cincher.

You would lose your dollars and the doughnuts. There is nothing anti-Semitic about it.

[AJM8125]

You would lose your dollars and the doughnuts. There is nothing anti-Semitic about it.

He didn't say that. He basically said if it's walking like duck, it's likely just another joo basher.

[Walter Ego]

You would lose your dollars and the doughnuts. There is nothing anti-Semitic about it.

Just "anti-Zionist," right? Whatever. You're plonked (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet)) anyway.

Say hello Jack Kubelsky, Aaron Chwatt, Joseph Gottlieb, Melvyn Kaminsky, Mendel Berlinger, Jack Chakrin, Jerome Silberman, Yakov Mosher Maza, William Yarmey, Leonard Hacker, Joseph Levitch, Danny Kaminski, Borge Rosenbaum, Allan Stewart Konigsberg and Joan Molinsky for me on your way out!

Au revoir and mazel tov!

[BaaBaa]

This deserves to be saved for Posterity!
http://www.nmsr.org/outsidejob.jpg
Dave
big ups for the pic, sah!

[beachnut]

...
And speaking of Sheen how does ABC keep paying him the big bucks to get huge ratings if what Sheen believes is truly so wacky and offensive to most of America? Ever wonder about that? Maybe you debunkers should write some letters and boycott some sponsors. Isn't there enough of your types around to get him blackballed? You know he is the highest paid sitcom actor on TV these days.

...

Sheen, is an idiot on 911 issues, like 911 truth, no clue.

Sheen is the best 911 truth can do.

Sheen is funny as half a man.

[BaaBaa]

Better yet, a new avatar...MINE!
G@#&!#** it!

[Dog Town]

G@#&!#** it!

Too late!

[Donal]

Sivan Kurzberg, why do you insist on referring to Jon Stewart by his birth name, but don't do it for Charlie Sheen (he was born Charles Estevez)?

Do you find something significant about Stewart's family name?

[CHF]

Two different political spectrum pundits can't avoid 9/11 truth 9 years later.

"Can't avoid?" No, they could avoid it just as easily as everyone else does. But they don't because the 911 "truth movement" is comedy that writes itself.

Speaking of which, did you seriously just take comfort from the fact that people are still laughing at you?

[Orphia Nay]

Speaking of which, did you seriously just take comfort from the fact that people are still laughing at you?

Well, at least he's had a change from people being disgusted by him. ;)



Although people still are disgusted by him, and rightly so. :mad:

[shawmutt]

Hey is this rally for real? I'll have to clear my calendar if it is...

[Orphia Nay]

Hey is this rally for real? I'll have to clear my calendar if it is...

I just watched the episode on TV. :rule10 it was funny! And spot on!

Here's a link to the online clip:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-16-2010/rally-to-restore-sanity

NYCCAN'T were saying they were going to air their "Building What" ad during the Daily Show. Nice to see Jon Stewart going on the record about truthers. :thumbsup:

He also compared truthers to birthers. :D

Here's a link to a "Rally to Restore Sanity" Facebook page you can "Like" and show your support:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-To-Restore-Sanity/155382737812809

And here's another one where you can post that you're attending the rally:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=118856078167623

At the last link, over 93,000 people have replied that they're attending the rally, and there are tons of posts about people organising carpools etc to get there. Looks like it IS happening.

[Orphia Nay]

Straight after that Daily Show episode, Stephen Colbert announced the "March to Keep Fear Alive" to be held same place same time... :big:

http://www.keepfearalive.com/

Their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=154317524597618&ref=nf) has nearly 40,000 attending.

To spoil the joke, his march is basically supporting Jon Stewart's statements, but is a piss-take of it.

[Orphia Nay]

And already satellite rallies are being organised around the US.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-To-Restore-Sanity-Satellite-Rallies/155558444474323?ref=mf

Check the Discussions page for a rally near you. :)

[timhau]

Sivan Kurzberg, why do you insist on referring to Jon Stewart by his birth name, but don't do it for Charlie Sheen (he was born Charles Estevez)?

I wondered the same thing.

BTW, I believe it's Carlos Estevez, not Charles.

[Walter Ego]

Sivan Kurzberg, why do you insist on referring to Jon Stewart by his birth name, but don't do it for Charlie Sheen (he was born Charles Estevez)?

Do you find something significant about Stewart's family name?

Need I point it out? Stewart is a Jew, Sheen is not. Stewart is obviously trying to "hide" something.

Btw, Charlie Sheen was born Carlos, not Charles, Estévez (Spanish-Irish heritage). His father, Martin Sheen (born Ramón Estévez), though adopting a stage name, has never changed his name legally which must cause some confusion when he presents his passport or diver's licence.

[timhau]

I think Charlie Sheen, just like Martin Sheen, is still only a stage name. Jon Stewart's real name is Jon Stewart; IIRC, he changed it years ago because he wants to infiltrate the goy world wishes to have nothing to do with his estranged father.

[Walter Ego]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_228454c97b46a6fc1c.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=21108)
Jon Stewart Trashes 9/11 Truth

Holding a huge sign on his show saying that "9/11 Was An Outside Job", Stewart is feeding the perception that the left has better things to do than pay heed to serious questioning into the validity of the official 9/11 story. I suppose there is nothing "funny" about questioning the official story. Maybe it's time for either of these comedic geniuses to show some moral backbone and intellectual courage and bring David Ray Griffin or David Chandler onto their shows....but that wouldn't be funny....would it?

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09-18/jon-stewart-trashes-911-truth#comments

The Court Jester and 9/11 Truth

[O]ne of The Daily Show’s staff writers – Kevin Bleyer – has contributed material to President Obama’s speeches and is a member of the influential Council on Foreign Relations. Bleyer is also a Truman National Security fellow and one of the founding contributors to The Huffington Post, a site which strictly forbids questioning of 9/11. In the past, Bleyer has worked with Bill Maher and Dennis Miller, two other comedians who have regularly disparaged 9/11 activists. Surely this is all just a coincidence, but one that’s interesting enough to note.

What is it about 9/11 and its unanswered questions that makes it so hard for mainstream journalists, media figures and even comedians to address it in an honest, straightforward manner? Is it because if it became common, verified knowledge that we were lied to about those attacks that changed the world and launched us into endless war, the establishment would be too threatened? Would too many comfortable jobs would be lost?

http://911truthnews.com/the-court-jester-and-911-truth/

Hat tip to SCL Blog (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/). Interestingly. the stuff about Kevin Bleyer is true (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/).

[shawmutt]

It is for real, they have applied for permits and everything. I will definitely be there, trying to get a sitter so my wife can join me, and my brother and his girlfriend are coming down from CT to go.

...now to figure out what to misspell on my sign...

[T.A.M.]

The Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, South Park ridicule hurts them more then anything else because it belittles and mocks them in front of their own key audience, young college kids angry with authority.

TAM:)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Sivan Kurzberg, why do you insist on referring to Jon Stewart by his birth name, but don't do it for Charlie Sheen (he was born Charles Estevez)?

Do you find something significant about Stewart's family name?

It's a funnier name for a clown. I can call Carlos by his real name too if it makes you feel any better. See?

Now don't tell me Sunjata's real name is Jones.

[T.A.M.]

No his real name is "stupid naive actor".

say it with me now...

TAM:)

[Disbelief]

Now don't tell me Sunjata's real name is Jones.

Actually, it's Daniel Sunjata Condon.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

The Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, South Park ridicule hurts them more then anything else because it belittles and mocks them in front of their own key audience, young college kids angry with authority.

TAM:)

I heard Maher got canceled. Too bad he doesn't appeal to the masses like Carlos Estévez.

[T.A.M.]

I heard Maher got canceled. Too bad he doesn't appeal to the masses like Carlos Estévez.

really...is your research that poor...

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/real-time-with-bill-maher-season-nine-14289/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/18/AR2010091801512.html

TAM:)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

really...is your research that poor...

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/real-time-with-bill-maher-season-nine-14289/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/18/AR2010091801512.html

TAM:)

Is that where he ran to after he got thrown off of network TV for being offensive? How ironic considering the debunker delusions that Carlos and his beliefs about 9/11 are so offensive, yet network throws off Mahr and pays Carlos big time.

Go figure.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

You guys like Mahr huh? How many debunkers here believe the hijackers were courageous? Tam?

[T.A.M.]

Listen, I love Charlie Sheen as an actor, so you are not doing anything with your whole "Charlie is great, Bill is a clown" routine, but making yourself look stupid (not a stretch I am sure). He is a fabulous actor...and a *********** moron when it comes to his views on 9/11...plain and simple.

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

You guys like Mahr huh? How many debunkers here believe the hijackers were courageous? Tam?

Liking a guy for his comedy, and agreeing with most of his views, does not mean I agree with him on EVERYTHING.

I am sure you will pull out some quote to try and prove something...go ahead.

TAM:)

[sheeplesnshills]

Listen, I love Charlie Sheen as an actor, so you are not doing anything with your whole "Charlie is great, Bill is a clown" routine, but making yourself look stupid (not a stretch I am sure). He is a fabulous actor...and a *********** moron when it comes to his views on 9/11...plain and simple.

TAM:)

and he is also a nasty wife beater to boot.........I'll go with the Jewish Comedian myself.

[beachnut]

Is that where he ran to after he got thrown off of network TV for being offensive? How ironic considering the debunker delusions that Carlos and his beliefs about 9/11 are so offensive, yet network throws off Mahr and pays Carlos big time.

Go figure.911 truth and Sheen have made zero progress advancing anti-intellectual claptrap; not a threat to most, only a threat to the incredibly gullible who lack knowledge.
Your movement of lies has Sheen, he crashes cars and beats up women. Wow, have an army of dolts with Sheen, the big bad woman beater. You win the lost another car and beat up another woman award, but lost the reality award! Go get your Pulitzer Prize and the award for attracting losers. I know many losers who are rich and dumb. Mel Gibson, rich and dumb. All of 911 truth only shares the dumb attribute, and it may only be on 911 issues. Good news for 911 truth, you might not be rich, but you share delusions with Sheen. Wow.

South Park nailed the stupidity of 911 truth. Ironic a cartoon is more real than 911 truth. Jon Stewart is right about 911 truth and you are unable to provide evidence to support the moronic delusions pushed by 911 truth. Don't worry, 911 truth has no evidence and has failed for 9 years.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

911 truth and Sheen have made zero progress advancing anti-intellectual claptrap; not a threat to most, only a threat to the incredibly gullible who lack knowledge.
Your movement of lies has Sheen, he crashes cars and beats up women. Wow, have an army of dolts with Sheen, the big bad woman beater. You win the lost another car and beat up another woman award, but lost the reality award! Go get your Pulitzer Prize and the award for attracting losers. I know many losers who are rich and dumb. Mel Gibson, rich and dumb. All of 911 truth only shares the dumb attribute, and it may only be on 911 issues. Good news for 911 truth, you might not be rich, but you share delusions with Sheen. Wow.

South Park nailed the stupidity of 911 truth. Ironic a cartoon is more real than 911 truth. Jon Stewart is right about 911 truth and you are unable to provide evidence to support the moronic delusions pushed by 911 truth. Don't worry, 911 truth has no evidence and has failed for 9 years.

Oh I'm not so sure that Liebowitz walks lock step with the JREF debunkers here on 9/11.

Did you catch this show?

http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/jon-stewart-takes-on-the-%E2%80%98uncensored%E2%80%99-history-of-the-911-commission/

And I think Mahr and Carlos could have some party at the Playboy Mansion.

And I think South Park is a cartoon.

[Dog Town]

Is that where he ran to after he got thrown off of network TV for being offensive?

You might wanna take a look at the MUCH better programing, not on your (must be using antenna) "Net Work" TV!

How ironic considering the debunker delusions that Carlos and his beliefs about 9/11 are so offensive, yet network throws off Mahr and pays Carlos big time.

Go figur

Is that REALLY some sort of cause and effect argument? REALLY?!?!

[Sivan Kurzberg]

You might wanna take a look at the MUCH better programing, not on your (must be using antenna) "Net Work" TV!

What's better television Dog Town? Claiming the terrorists were courageous? What a strange belief for a JREF debunker.

Is that REALLY some sort of cause and effect argument? REALLY?!?!


No need to yell. It's just the truth Dog Town. Mahr got thrown off and Carlos got paid. Big time.

So who wrote your avatar Dog Town? Liebowitz or the writer from the CFR?

[Dog Town]

What's better television Dog Town? Claiming the terrorists were courageous? What a strange belief for a JREF debunker.



No need to yell. It's just the truth Dog Town. Mahr got thrown off and Carlos got paid. Big time.

So who wrote your avatar Dog Town? Liebowitz or the writer from the CFR?

WOW! You didn't understand a thing I wrote. Yet, yet you still replied! What's the Twain saying, about keeping a mouth shut?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/109234699fe7de0c94.gif (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7037)http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/109234699fe7de0c94.gif (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7037)

For the record: Courage mixed with crazy, YES!

[Sivan Kurzberg]

WOW! You didn't understand a thing I wrote. Yet, yet you still replied! What's the Twain saying, about keeping a mouth shut?

For the record: Courage mixed with crazy, YES!

You take over forty minutes to reply and the best you can come up with is "Yet, yet..." (what are you stuttering?), and some laughing dogs? Well at least the stuttering is original. And you think the terrorist were courageous huh? You should look that Clemens quote up. You could benefit from it.

Oh, and for the record? I don't think that cold blooded murder is ever courageous. No matter who does it.

[beachnut]

Oh I'm not so sure that Liebowitz walks lock step with the JREF debunkers here on 9/11.

Did you catch this show?

http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/jon-stewart-takes-on-the-%E2%80%98uncensored%E2%80%99-history-of-the-911-commission/

And I think Mahr and Carlos could have some party at the Playboy Mansion.

And I think South Park is a cartoon.
So the idiot web site violated copyright. And?

911 truth has failed for 9 years due to no evidence. You post an article about politics which does not support the moronic lies pushed by 911 truth. What is your point? 911 truth fails no matter what you post.

Jon Stewart thinks 911 truth is nuts. Looks like we agree. 911 truth has delusions; the best they can do after 9 years of pathetic failure. 9 years! Failure.

South Park exposed 911 truth as a cartoon movement spreading lies, nonsense and idiotic delusions. With 911 truth being a complete failure and an anti-intellectual movement, cartoons and comedians are able to debunk 911 truth. Not much you can do to save 911 truth from failure for the next 9 years.

[jaydeehess]

Inside-out job?

http://www.ostomy-winnipeg.ca/woain_ot.html
Contact a colo-rectal surgeon, the 911 conspiracy needs one.

[jaydeehess]

I heard Maher got canceled. Too bad he doesn't appeal to the masses like Carlos Estévez.



Seems to me the Maher said that the hijackers showed sopme courage.
I see his point thought I personally would not have put it that way.

A suicide mission takes a person totally committed to the cause. That may be a definition of courage in some circles. Take a hypothetical situation in which a soldier stands his ground firing at an advacing enemy in order to allow his comrades to move to a better position or escape an ambush. Our military is quite willing to honour that individual posthumously for their courage and sacrifice. A true story would be of that first bomber raid ion Tokyo after which the ombers tried to fly on to China. many never made it or went down before reaching the Chinese army controlled territory. I am quite sure that in fundementalist Islamic circles the hijackers are regarded as courageous soldiers who carried out a mission to hit at the homeland of the enemy.

[jaydeehess]

I heard Maher got canceled. Too bad he doesn't appeal to the masses like Carlos Estévez.

I've never heard of Carlos Estevez. Guess I'm not in the "masses".

Seems to me that Maher said that the hijackers showed sopme courage.
I see his point thought I personally would not have put it that way.

A suicide mission takes a person totally committed to the cause. That may be a definition of courage in some circles. Take a hypothetical situation in which a soldier stands his ground firing at an advacing enemy in order to allow his comrades to move to a better position or escape an ambush. Our military is quite willing to honour that individual posthumously for their courage and sacrifice. A true story would be of that first bomber raid ion Tokyo after which the ombers tried to fly on to China. many never made it or went down before reaching the Chinese army controlled territory. I am quite sure that in fundementalist Islamic circles the hijackers are regarded as courageous soldiers who carried out a mission to hit at the homeland of the enemy.

[carlitos]

I didn't say you were crying I meant Leibowitz. Watch Beck? What channel is he on? I heard him on the radio. He's nuts. He has the same view point about truthers as most of you here though.
If your desire is for people to understand your posts, you would be better served using people's real name. I read the whole first page thinking that you were talking about Jon Lovitz. (probably not his real name either)


...
And speaking of Sheen how does ABC keep paying him the big bucks to get huge ratings if what Sheen believes is truly so wacky and offensive to most of America? Ever wonder about that? Maybe you debunkers should write some letters and boycott some sponsors. Isn't there enough of your types around to get him blackballed? You know he is the highest paid sitcom actor on TV these days. CBS pays Charlie Sheen, not ABC.

[Bell]

CBS pays Charlie Sheen, not ABC.

Three letter acronym companies and agencies are evil!

[Spindrift]

If your desire is for people to understand your posts, you would be better served using people's real name. I read the whole first page thinking that you were talking about Jon Lovitz. (probably not his real name either)

CBS pays Charlie Sheen, not ABC.

They're all one big network, didn't you now that.

[Dog Town]

Snip drivel...
Oh, and for the record? I don't think that cold blooded murder is ever courageous. No matter who does it.

False choice noted!

Considering how you feel about 911, all you do is troll forums, and that's no surprise. You haven't the foggiest idea of what courage is! Pfft...done with you!

[T.A.M.]

Notice how personal and vitriolic his post get with respect to this topic...

Like I said, not all publicity is good publicity, when you are trying to have your theories taken seriously.

TAM:)

[Bell]

Notice how personal and vitriolic his post get with respect to this topic...

Like I said, not all publicity is good publicity, when you are trying to have your theories taken seriously.

TAM:)

Truther's publicity can't get any worse than beating up a girl in a wheelchair.

[T.A.M.]

Truther's publicity can't get any worse than beating up a girl in a wheelchair.

well that was a low for them, but not widely publicized. The Jon Stewart thing...huge....much more negative impact for them. They are, quite literally, the "laughing stock" of america.

TAM:)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

If your desire is for people to understand your posts, you would be better served using people's real name. I read the whole first page thinking that you were talking about Jon Lovitz. (probably not his real name either)

Leibowitz is his name. Lovitz? lol

CBS pays Charlie Sheen, not ABC.

CBS huh? More than I knew. So you're a fan of Carlos? Glad to hear his views on 9/11 don't offend you.

[Sivan Kurzberg]

They're all one big network, didn't you now that.

I was making the distinction between network and cable. You didn't get that much huh?

[Sivan Kurzberg]

Edited to remove breach. I strongly suggest that you read - and abide by - the Membership Agreement.

[carlitos]

I was making the distinction between network and cable. You didn't get that much huh?

Inability to admit error continues to manifest itself in truther people posts.

It's sad. ABC is not CBS. It's OK. You made a mistake. I make them all the time. Like seeing "Leibowitz" and thinking "Lovitz," when all the time you were talking about a guy named "Stewart."

[timhau]

It's OK. You made a mistake. I make them all the time. Like seeing "Leibowitz" and thinking "Lovitz," when all the time you were talking about a guy named "Stewart."

Maybe he was just distracted after watching Konigsberg and Kaminsky movies all day.

[Orphia Nay]

The rabid Dem truthers at a forum I post at are all excited about the rally!

I'm befuddled. I even posted the pic of JS holding up the "Outside Job" pic as a subtle dig, but didn't get any response.

Are they that dumb that they think JS supports truthers?

Or is the fact that JS think truthers are nutjobs making them reconsider their beliefs?

[T.A.M.]

Are you suggesting there is something wrong with being a liberal? You know some of us liberals hate the truthers more then conservatives!

TAM:D

[Orphia Nay]

Are you suggesting there is something wrong with being a liberal? You know some of us liberals hate the truthers more then conservatives!

TAM:D

Not in the slightest! If I was a yank, I'd be a Democrat. But these guys think the Dems can do no wrong, and call Rebubs fascists, Bush Hitler, etc etc. Totally off the deep end. Moderate doesn't exist in their vocabulary. Hence me calling them rabid Dems. I'm not saying all Dems are rabid. Hope that clears things up.

Jon Stewart, while a liberal, still points out when the Dems do things wrong. His recent "Why I give up" bit about the 9/11 first responders bill is one bit I have in mind. He also gave Obama a bit of a serve yesterday, which I was a bit disgruntled about. I think Obama is doing very well, against steep odds.

[T.A.M.]

lol...I thought so. You never struck me as a Republican/Conservative.

TAM:)

[Orphia Nay]

Cheers!

[timhau]

I'm befuddled. I even posted the pic of JS holding up the "Outside Job" pic as a subtle dig, but didn't get any response.

Are they that dumb that they think JS supports truthers?

This option gets my vote.

Stupid people aren't real good at subtle. In some cases, 'subtle' includes everything less conspicuous than a 19th-century cavalry charge.

[sheeplesnshills]

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_was_an_outside_job_tshirt-235122767658059450

Got to get one of these T shirts :)

[Sivan Kurzberg]

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_was_an_outside_job_tshirt-235122767658059450

Got to get one of these T shirts :)

These shirts are pretty snappy too. :)

http://www.zazzle.com/truth_now_tshirt-235202549348052481

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_an_inside_job_tshirt-235366647600876577

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_demand_truth_tshirt-235112347079709163

[shawmutt]

I like this one:

http://www.cafepress.com/thestupidburns.231612456

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Jon Stewart, while a liberal, still points out when the Dems do things wrong. His recent "Why I give up" bit about the 9/11 first responders bill is one bit I have in mind. He also gave Obama a bit of a serve yesterday, which I was a bit disgruntled about. I think Obama is doing very well, against steep odds.

I rather enjoy his appearances on Bill O'Reilly.

[T.A.M.]

These shirts are pretty snappy too. :)

http://www.zazzle.com/truth_now_tshirt-235202549348052481

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_an_inside_job_tshirt-235366647600876577

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_demand_truth_tshirt-235112347079709163

Do they have a T-shirt that reads,

"I'm a dumbass sock puppet, too stupid to realize everyone else knows."

TAM:)

[beachnut]

These shirts are pretty snappy too. :)

http://www.zazzle.com/truth_now_tshirt-235202549348052481

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_an_inside_job_tshirt-235366647600876577

http://www.zazzle.com/9_11_demand_truth_tshirt-235112347079709163
Jon Stewart got it right. The T-shirts for 911 truth, as much evidence packed in each t-shirt as 911 truth has. Zero. T-shirts to prove you are clueless on 911 issues. Who is dumb enough to wear one?

Truth? What a NAZI like, 1984 like name for a movement of lies and delusions.

911 truth has 9 years of failure, what do they do for an encore?

9 more.

[timhau]

Jon Stewart got it right. The T-shirts for 911 truth, as much evidence packed in each t-shirt as 911 truth has. Zero. T-shirts to prove you are clueless on 911 issues. Who is dumb enough to wear one?

Hmm... let me think...

http://www.topnews.in/files/Ahmadinejad.jpg

[carlitos]

I rather enjoy his appearances on Bill O'Reilly.

I don't watch much Fox News anymore, but from what I saw, he was OK but disingenuous. Like he'd make a serious point or two, then O'Reilly would challenge something and he'd put his hands up "Hey, I'm just a comedian." That seemed like a cop out when I saw it.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Jon Stewart has been doing that for a while. I remember back in 2004, he went on CNNs "Crossfire" and criticized them for not really dealing substantively with the issues. When Tucker Carlson pointed out that he had the democrat nominee for the Presidency on his show and he didn't "deal substantively" either, Stewart begged off, saying his lead-in show was about puppets who make crank phone calls and he didn't have to.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact that Stewart and O'Reilly will go on each others shows and behave civilly while the only way you might see Keith Olberman, or Jeneanne Garafalo on O'reilly is if they are wearing an Al Qeada suicide vest.

[T.A.M.]

Wait, how are we comparing a comedy show that focuses on political punditry for its laughs, to an ALLEGED Political News Show, like O'Reilly or Crossfire?

The person making such a comparison needs to think it through a little more.

TAM:)

[carlitos]

SOT, I think that I was thinking of that very crossfire episode, now that you mention it.

I take your points on civility. The more hard-left like on MSNBC seem to pride themselves on their incivility to Bush, for example. Olbermann's rants come to mind.

[beachnut]

Hmm... let me think...

http://www.topnews.in/files/Ahmadinejad.jpg
... over qualified to wear the moronic 911 truth t-shirts of stupid.

[Dog Town]

while the only way you might see Keith Olberman, or Jeneanne Garafalo on O'reilly is if they are wearing an Al Qeada suicide vest.

And if they had shows, that people listen to or watch, it would be vice a verse.

PS
Keith is a twit!

[T.A.M.]

SOT, I think that I was thinking of that very crossfire episode, now that you mention it.

I take your points on civility. The more hard-left like on MSNBC seem to pride themselves on their incivility to Bush, for example. Olbermann's rants come to mind.

Before this "hard lefty" here gets too annoyed, I am gonna suggest we keep politics out of this subforum. JREF has a forum dedicated to it (which I tend to stay out of).

TAM:)

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Before this "hard lefty" here gets too annoyed, I am gonna suggest we keep politics out of this subforum. JREF has a forum dedicated to it (which I tend to stay out of).

TAM:)

Fair enough... but if you'd like to take a parting shot at Ann Coulter, be my guest. ;)

[T.A.M.]

Fair enough... but if you'd like to take a parting shot at Ann Coulter, be my guest. ;)

Ann "I am more of a man then Rush Limbaugh" Coulter? Who is that?

TAM:D

[ShadowSot]

Wait, how are we comparing a comedy show that focuses on political punditry for its laughs, to an ALLEGED Political News Show, like O'Reilly or Crossfire?


That's been my view.
Yes it's slanted, but I don't take it all that seriously. It's comedy. They aren't really trying to be fair and balanced.... but they tend to be more fair and balanced than the guys who have it as their motto.

[cantonear1968]

South Park, The Onion, and Now the Daily Show...

If I were an angry young truther, I would have to throw in the towel at this point...all your favorite media has given you the bird.

TAM:)

I once had a truther try to use a clip from a The Onion show as proof for his claims. Totally unaware that the show is a fake news show and only proof that truthers will believe whatever they have to in order to fuel their delusions.

Love Jon Stewart and The Daily Show! Never miss it!

[Triterope]

South Park, The Onion, and Now the Daily Show...

And Maddox. Don't forget Maddox (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons).

[Walter Ego]

I like this one:

http://www.cafepress.com/thestupidburns.231612456

Try this one .... the 4.6% number comes from a truther commissioned poll (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/09/so-much-for-84.html)!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_228454ca442e94acbc.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=21221)

[T.A.M.]

Try this one .... the 4.6% number comes from a truther commissioned poll (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/09/so-much-for-84.html)!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_228454ca442e94acbc.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=21221)

GiVen the percentage of americans who are under the age of 10, one could accurately place on the back of that shirt "which is about the same percentage as those believing in santa claus and the easter bunny.".

TAM:)

[Orphia Nay]

I started a thread about NYCCAN wanting to air their ad during The Daily Show at the Daily Show Forum:

http://forums.thedailyshow.com/?page=ThreadView&thread_id=32166

Surprise, surprise, some truthers are trying to sell their snake oil in it.

[Clarrisani]

That's the character of debunkers. They don't care about actual evidence, they just want to believe the government story.

I saw that quote and actually had to laugh. Especially since before this the poster pulled out the "no evidence of molten steel" argument, claiming this as the "government story" even though most of us know this is not the truth.

Also, claiming that the removal of the debris is a violation of the law. wtf? Now, I'm not American, but which laws? They also claim that "FEMA BPAT members had to chase trucks to salvage yards and get samples there to conduct their investigation." Nice choice of words there by our poor misinformed friend.

Does anyone have any background Salem News article listed? First time I've seen it.

and just start on the right side of the main page, and see the nice, lengthy list of supporting evidence for demolitions, as listed and as suported by over 1300 working architects and civil engineers....

I guess what I'll be doing this evening: looking at their "evidence" on ae911truth. I'll also be doing a background look into Neils Harritt and the supposed "peer-reviewed paper" that "shows trace evidence of undetonated, high-tech explosive in all of the dust samples"

By the way, is it just me or is one of the Truther's on the Daily Show forum an administrator? The one that says WTC7 should have collapsed since a plane didn't hit it.

[Orphia Nay]

By the way, is it just me or is one of the Truther's on the Daily Show forum an administrator? The one that says WTC7 should have collapsed since a plane didn't hit it.

I'm pretty sure that's just one of the rankings you get at the forum based on how many posts you've made. I'm sure all of his are pure gold. ;)

[Orphia Nay]

By the way, is it just me or is one of the Truther's on the Daily Show forum an administrator? The one that says WTC7 should have collapsed since a plane didn't hit it.

My mistake. That guy is an Admin at the forum. :boggled:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Ahh, I knew there was thread about The Daily Show forums: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=172897

itry2brational, in post #34, mentions that "the moderators are also truthers".