Man kills 'alien clone' wife

[zakur]

Story (http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/7953008.htm)"We're going against the evil alien clones. ... I started with my wife."

Pat Hutchinson said he shot his wife, Fontaine, in the head yesterday because she, like most of the other people on the planet, had been taken over by alien clones.

[...]

He spoke calmly, but rambled, talking not only about clones but also about UFOs, aliens, cobras, "panther-lions," the CIA and a vast conspiracy.

As he watched police surround his house, he said he had "several" guns and was prepared to use them on anyone who made it past his "cobras and panther-lions."

"Me and God's creatures -- we're going to do the best we can with what we got to work with," Hutchinson said. "These police officers and these folks -- I got a feeling they're getting ready to die."

Asked to start at the beginning, he said, "At the end of World War II, a UFO crash-landed near the Russian border. ..."

Aliens "possess the upper echelons of our administration. There's only 735 true humans left in Lexington, less than 3 million left worldwide," he said.

Asked for the reason behind the shootings, Hutchinson said:

"A cobra came up to me on the farm and gave me a stick and said, 'God told me to give this to you.'"

"I control the tribe of the stick, about 250 panther-lions, thousands of cobras, " Hutchinson said.:crazy:

[Nyarlathotep]

Why does the fact that this happened in Kentucky not surprise me?

[WildCat]

Pat Hutchinson said he shot his wife, Fontaine, in the head yesterday because she, like most of the other people on the planet, had been taken over by alien clones.
Gotta start somewhere... :p

Come to think of it, you're looking a little alien-ish lately, zakur...

[Bottle or the Gun]

What does Alien-clone mean? Clones of aliens? Why do they look human then?

[WildCat]

Originally posted by Bottle or the Gun
What does Alien-clone mean? Clones of aliens? Why do they look human then?
Did you think that by playing dumb you'd avoid suspicion? You don't fool me or my cobra and panther-lion (they all look like my avatar) army. We'll be looking for you...

[Skeptic]

What does Alien-clone mean? Clones of aliens? Why do they look human then?

This is actually a well-known delusion in medical literature. The deluded person believes his loved ones have been replaced by clones that look exactly like the "original" spouse, child, parent, etc.--but are actually aliens.

This actually brings up an interesting point. Such a delusion is as unfalsifiable, as logically consistent (if not more), and as explanatory as the common belief that all natural events were replaced with exact clones of those events, replicas which LOOK exactly the same, but in reality, are essentially different.

I mean, of course, the common belief that the original lightning bolt (say), a natural event caused by an unequal electrical charge between the earth and the clouds, was replaced by an exact replica which looks exactly the same, but is in reality a supernatural event caused by "god's will" (ditto for earthquakes, etc.) And goodness knows that people die and kill every day for THAT belief.

Why, then, is this person considered criminally insane while the other delusion is not only not punished, but praised?

[fishbob]

Why, then, is this person considered criminally insane while the other delusion is not only not punished, but praised? Just guessing here, but I would say becuase in the one example nobody gets shot in the head, while in the other example somebody gets shot in the head.

[Some Friggin Guy]

I have to go wiht the fishie one on this. The people who murder in the name of the invisible sky-captain DO face punishment. Just look at that nutter who shot up the abortion clinic.

The main difference is that more people seem to suffer from that delusion, which is funny, since it is based on a lie told by the alien-clones.

[Marc]

Originally posted by fishbob
Just guessing here, but I would say becuase in the one example nobody gets shot in the head, while in the other example somebody gets shot in the head.

But when someone goes around claiming everyone has been replaced by aliens, they might get taken in for some mental care. When someone goes around claiming natural disasters are the retribution of god that is accepted. The alien-clone guy might get help before they progress to shooting people in the head, the religious nut is far less likely to be questioned.

[Zero]

Hey! Don't judge!! It could have happened to any of us!!:p

[Skeptic]

Just guessing here, but I would say becuase in the one example nobody gets shot in the head, while in the other example somebody gets shot in the head.

Oh REALLY? Just how many deaths is religion responsible for? A hell of a lot more than the "alien clone" delusion, I'll bet...

[Bottle or the Gun]

Why go to the expense of cloning aliens to look like humans and programming them with hidden agendas when the originals can be easily and cheaply controlled by Atlantean blood-spores?

[Upchurch]

From the articleHe denied that he had mental problems: "You think, 'this guy's a nut.' I'm not a nut."
Why do the nuts never realize they're nuts?

[Bottle or the Gun]

Originally posted by Upchurch
From the article
Why do the nuts never realize they're nuts?

Yeah, isn't there some point where they say "Whoa, wait...that's absolutely bug-f*ck! Better get some help..."

[MRC_Hans]

Sad story, but I like the wild anti-logic of such stories: He claims that less that 3 million real people are left. Thats less than 0.001%! So since the aliens have already succeeded totally, why should they keep up the secrecy?? If I was...... mmm, let me rephrase that:

As the alien commander I can assure you that when less than 5% of the real people are left, I will simply issue a command to my trusty clones to go out and exterminate the remainder, then widely declare our victory.

Hans

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Originally posted by Upchurch
Why do the nuts never realize they're nuts? Seriously?

Because even considering the possibility that one's entire set of perceptions and belief might have no relationship with reality requires a certain breadth of mental vision. People that far gone don't have sufficient space in their mental notepad to consider such abstractions.

It's pretty much the same reason hallucinating people rarely consider the possibility that they're hallucinating. If you can question your sanity, that's moderately strong evidence that you're sane. (A principle that seems to elude the characters on old science-fiction disguised-social-commentary shows, for some reason...)

[headscratcher4]

My god, they finally got Big Fig...no wait, that was Tennesee. Never mind...she's still out there....

[odorousrex]

Originally posted by Skeptic

This is actually a well-known delusion in medical literature. The deluded person believes his loved ones have been replaced by clones that look exactly like the "original" spouse, child, parent, etc.--but are actually aliens.

I saw an interview once with a man and his wife, and the man suffered from this delusion. It had been going on for a couple years, and he was undergoing therapy. The wife (who was thought of as merely a clone - not an alien) stayed with him despite the hardship. She seemed to think he would eventually come out of it. It was rather interesting because it apparantly happened to him overnight. He woke up one morning, and just assumed his wife had been replaced during the night. He didn't harbor thoughts of murder with her, but stopped all physical & sexual contact. I was amazed the wife was hanging in there. I wish I could remember the source, 20/20 or Oprah or some claptrap.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by odorousrex


I saw an interview once with a man and his wife, and the man suffered from this delusion. It had been going on for a couple years, and he was undergoing therapy. The wife (who was thought of as merely a clone - not an alien) stayed with him despite the hardship. She seemed to think he would eventually come out of it. It was rather interesting because it apparantly happened to him overnight. He woke up one morning, and just assumed his wife had been replaced during the night. He didn't harbor thoughts of murder with her, but stopped all physical & sexual contact. I was amazed the wife was hanging in there. I wish I could remember the source, 20/20 or Oprah or some claptrap.

What I don't understand is... if it's an EXACT replica IN EVERY DETAIL... WHAT THE HECK IS THE DIFFERENCE??? Who cares?

[Wrath of the Swarm]

The problem seems to be that the brain centers responsible for unconscious recognition are damaged. And no matter how much people recognize that the "replicants" have all the properties of their loved ones, they're unable to override their emotional certainty that they've never seen them before.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Skeptic


What I don't understand is... if it's an EXACT replica IN EVERY DETAIL... WHAT THE HECK IS THE DIFFERENCE??? Who cares? This is exactly what the pod people want you to think...YOU'RE NEXT! YOU'RE NEXT!

[patnray]

Originally posted by Upchurch
From the article
Why do the nuts never realize they're nuts?

Actually, they often do realize it. The ones who don't are more dangerous, generally.

As for why don't people who are hallucinating realize it - a) That's what makes it a hallucination: it seems real, and b) sometimes they do...

In my youth I spent 5 years working in mental hospitals, so I knew quite a few "crazy" people, most of whom were harmless. It is very distressing for a person to see a hallucination, to know it is a hallucination, but to be unable to "make it stop"...

[Bottle or the Gun]

I knew a guy who was convinced that there were actually only 24 people on earth. He read in some stupid article in Omni magazine that in reality, the entire population of earth weer actually just split off fragments, spread through time and space, of the same small group of people.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by odorousrex


I saw an interview once with a man and his wife, and the man suffered from this delusion. It had been going on for a couple years, and he was undergoing therapy. The wife (who was thought of as merely a clone - not an alien) stayed with him despite the hardship. She seemed to think he would eventually come out of it. It was rather interesting because it apparantly happened to him overnight. He woke up one morning, and just assumed his wife had been replaced during the night. He didn't harbor thoughts of murder with her, but stopped all physical & sexual contact. I was amazed the wife was hanging in there. I wish I could remember the source, 20/20 or Oprah or some claptrap.


1% of the population gets schizophrenia. It does seem to happen overnight. His wife is great to hang in there. If he gets treatment, then her efforts will pay off.

[Zep]

[Cain does this really well]

Main screen on! All your moonshine are belong to us. Ha ha ha... with great justice

[subgenius]

Laugh if you will, but there is an actual neurological disorder called "alien hand syndrome" where you can't control what your hand does.
http://www.rense.com/politics6/hand.htm

The guy would have been better off claiming this.

[Ælfgifu]

What does Alien-clone mean? Clones of aliens? Why do they look human then? I don't know, but I hear they taste of chicken. :wink8:

Have a nice day,
Kelly :)

[Darat]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
This is exactly what the pod people want you to think...YOU'RE NEXT! YOU'RE NEXT!

You poor deluded fool - you've already been replaced, you are an alien clone!

[El Greco]

I keep thinking that this couple started happily maybe 20 years ago, with vows of eternal love and dreams about the future, without the slightest idea that such a tragedy would seal their lives... Exactly like many of us...

[Marc]

Originally posted by Darat


You poor deluded fool - you've already been replaced, you are an alien clone!
The sad thing is the people who would believe that. In a chat room where any pro-paranormal talk was supposed to go on one person said they had never seen a UFO, but dreams about them and aliens. Someone suggested they might be a walk-in (I think that was the term) an alien posing as human. The guy agreed that might be right. :rolleyes:

[karl]

Originally posted by Skeptic

What I don't understand is... if it's an EXACT replica IN EVERY DETAIL... WHAT THE HECK IS THE DIFFERENCE??? Who cares?

Why is that so hard to understand? If you just look at the end product there is no difference between "dolphin safe" and regular tuna either, or between "organically grown" and regular sugar, etc., etc. But lots of people still make a big fuss over it.

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by karl


Why is that so hard to understand? If you just look at the end product there is no difference between "dolphin safe" and regular tuna either, or between "organically grown" and regular sugar, etc., etc. But lots of people still make a big fuss over it.

Apparently you haven't discussed this with any Dolphins...




( Not taking sides here... I actually insist on " Tuna Safe " dolphin. myself...:) )

[Agammamon]

That's so weird. It's almost like my delusion that I'm an alien clone and all the other alien clones have been replaced by real people IDENTICAL IN EVERY RESPECT TO ALIEN CLONES!

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by Diogenes


Apparently you haven't discussed this with any Dolphins...




( Not taking sides here... I actually insist on " Tuna Safe " dolphin. myself...:) )

What annoys me about this is that you'll never see any "shark safe" or "anglerfish safe" tuna. It's not saving the animals some people are interested in... it's saving the CUTE animals.

(Isn't "dolphin safe" tuna an insult to tuna? "What about me, you sonofabitch!")

[VicDaring]

What annoys me about this is that you'll never see any "shark safe" or "anglerfish safe" tuna. It's not saving the animals some people are interested in... it's saving the CUTE animals.

(Isn't "dolphin safe" tuna an insult to tuna? "What about me, you sonofabitch!")

Isn't that a decade-old Rush Limbaugh bit?

[epepke]

Women. You can't live with them; you can't shoot them in the head unless they're alien clones.

[Blondin]

Ah yes, "Bodysnatcher Syndrome".

I know this is a bit of a derail but... does anybody else find it peculiar that Donald Sutherland was in both (the remake of) "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" and "The Puppet Masters"?

Maybe he really is... one of "them"!

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by VicDaring


Isn't that a decade-old Rush Limbaugh bit?

Actually it's Dennis Leary from his No Cure for Cancer album.