Is Bill Maher a bigot?

[ProBonoShill]

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-09-15/politics/primary.bill.maher_1_bill-maher-savior-s-alliance-election?_s=PM:POLITICS

Bill Maher: O'Donnell's win is good for the Democrats

Comedian Bill Maher says he's happy Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell won Delaware's GOP primary for U.S. Senate on Tuesday night.

First, because he knows and likes her. Second, because he thinks her nomination has ensured that Democrats will keep the Senate seat in the general election....

...."And the other part of me is rooting for her because she's going to get her Christian ass kicked in the general election."_____________

I wonder if we changed the quoted phrase to:

I hope Keith Ellison gets his Muslim ass kicked in the upcoming election

or

I hope Barbara Boxer gets her Jewish ass kicked in 2010,

would everyone still think it's perfectly fine.

[dudalb]

I think Maher has made his contempt for Religion in general quite clear.

If you want to criticise him, go after him for his support and pushing of Crackpot Medicine on his show.

[mhaze]

I think Maher has made his contempt for Religion in general quite clear.....

Umm, no actually you've sidetracked the OP, which makes a good point.

I've always believed in equal rights for comedy on all subjects. Maher doesn't.

But then he stopped being funny long ago.

[Ziggurat]

But then he stopped being funny long ago.

When was he ever funny? It must have been before Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094834/).

[Dunstan]

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-09-15/politics/primary.bill.maher_1_bill-maher-savior-s-alliance-election?_s=PM:POLITICS

Bill Maher: O'Donnell's win is good for the Democrats

Comedian Bill Maher says he's happy Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell won Delaware's GOP primary for U.S. Senate on Tuesday night.

First, because he knows and likes her. Second, because he thinks her nomination has ensured that Democrats will keep the Senate seat in the general election....

_____________

I wonder if we changed the quoted phrase to:

I hope Keith Ellison gets his Muslim ass kicked in the upcoming election

or

I hope Barbara Boxer gets her Jewish ass kicked in 2010,

would everyone still think it's perfectly fine.

If Ellison and Boxer were campaigning on the premise that "vote for me because I'm a good [Muslim/Jew]," then yes, it would be perfectly fine. I can't speak to Ellison, but I live in California and don't recall Boxer ever campaigning on her religion. A visit to her website doesn't give any indication of her beliefs.

I don't know if O'Donnell's been trumpeting her religion in her campaign. According to Wiki, she's been a spokesperson and founder of Christian political lobbying groups, and is a creationist, and I've heard about her bizarre anti-sex beliefs. I don't know whether that's all in the past and her campaign has been about the libertarian, small-government stuff, or if she's pushing her Christianity as well. (Her campaign website seems to consist of nothing more than a donation page right now.)

So if Maher is bringing her religion up gratuitously, then I'd agree that's inappropriate. If she's made it a political issue herself, then it's fair game.

[fuelair]

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-09-15/politics/primary.bill.maher_1_bill-maher-savior-s-alliance-election?_s=PM:POLITICS

Bill Maher: O'Donnell's win is good for the Democrats

Comedian Bill Maher says he's happy Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell won Delaware's GOP primary for U.S. Senate on Tuesday night.

First, because he knows and likes her. Second, because he thinks her nomination has ensured that Democrats will keep the Senate seat in the general election....

_____________

I wonder if we changed the quoted phrase to:

I hope Keith Ellison gets his Muslim ass kicked in the upcoming election

or

I hope Barbara Boxer gets her Jewish ass kicked in 2010,

would everyone still think it's perfectly fine.The problem is that most of the POS's that want to rule us and are living in the US are christian and republicker. That's why those two terms are appropriate for use in the context. If enough muslims come in and enough of them start trying to switch us to sharia "law" then "muslim ass" will be appropriate - though I bet the christian right will be there supporting them all the way - since for fundies only the names are changed.:mad::mad::mad:

[casebro]

Christine O'Donnell, or Rosie O'Donnell?

[dudalb]

Christine O'Donnell, or Rosie O'Donnell?

No matter who wins, we lose.......

[seewhatflows]

Bill Maher regularly expresses his contempt for anyone who isn't a thin, upper-class, educated, urban, liberal atheist. The guy is a completely smug, arrogant, dick-faced snob.

He also looks to Ashton Kutcher for deep political analysis.

[mhaze]

If Ellison and Boxer were campaigning on the premise that "vote for me because I'm a good [Muslim/Jew]," then yes, it would be perfectly fine. I can't speak to Ellison, but I live in California and don't recall Boxer ever campaigning on her religion. A visit to her website doesn't give any indication of her beliefs.

I don't know if O'Donnell's been trumpeting her religion in her campaign. According to Wiki, she's been a spokesperson and founder of Christian political lobbying groups, and is a creationist, and I've heard about her bizarre anti-sex beliefs. I don't know whether that's all in the past and her campaign has been about the libertarian, small-government stuff, or if she's pushing her Christianity as well. (Her campaign website seems to consist of nothing more than a donation page right now.)

So if Maher is bringing her religion up gratuitously, then I'd agree that's inappropriate. If she's made it a political issue herself, then it's fair game.

From your wiki source:

On September 16, 2010, O'Donnell said she does not believe in regulating private sexual behavior, and if elected "it'll be the Constitution on which I base all of my decisions, not my personal beliefs."[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_O%27Donnell#cite_note-no_tax-70)

Which doesn't address the whole of the religion issue, but a part of it.

[johnny karate]

On September 16, 2010, O'Donnell said she does not believe in regulating private sexual behavior, and if elected "it'll be the Constitution on which I base all of my decisions, not my personal beliefs."

I look forward to her proposal for a Constitutional amendment to outlaw masturbation.

[MattusMaximus]

From your wiki source:

On September 16, 2010, O'Donnell said she does not believe in regulating private sexual behavior, and if elected "it'll be the Constitution on which I base all of my decisions, not my personal beliefs."[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_O%27Donnell#cite_note-no_tax-70)

Which doesn't address the whole of the religion issue, but a part of it.

So she wouldn't have a problem with gay marriage? Awesome! :)

[Thunder]

hmmm..

I doubt Bill Maher would say something about Joe Lieberman's "Jewish" ass.

this indeed may be a case of bigotry.

[Praktik]

I will say this, his "New Rules" segments last season were occasionally BRILLIANT pieces of hilarity.

Best part of the show for sure.

[Dunstan]

From your wiki source:

On September 16, 2010, O'Donnell said she does not believe in regulating private sexual behavior, and if elected "it'll be the Constitution on which I base all of my decisions, not my personal beliefs."[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_O%27Donnell#cite_note-no_tax-70)

Which doesn't address the whole of the religion issue, but a part of it.

If I believed her, yes.

Unfortunately, a lot of people -- both conservatives and liberals -- have a funny way of interpreting the Constitution to correspond to their political beliefs. So saying that you'll legislate according to the Constitution is pretty meaningless, unless you've given a very clear explanation of how you interpret the Constitution.

Also, I don't think you can pull religion off the table that way. If -- and I stress that I'm not claiming O'Donnell has done this -- you go on conservative talk radio and tell people to vote for you because you're a good Christian and will promote good Christian values, then the fact that you tell the mainstream press that you're all about the Constitution and good government doesn't negate that you've made religion an issue.

[Skeptic]

I think Maher has made his contempt for Religion in general quite clear.

You're quite correct, but he would never say anything about someone's "Jewish ass" or "Muslim ass" being whipped in the general elections. Christians, however, are fair game.

I've noticed the same attitude in this forum. There's a sliding scale: Christianity can be mocked with impunity, the silly "ultra-orthodox" or the "zionists" can be smeared with impunity buy one must make clear one isn't attacking Jews in general (though how wanting the only Jewish state wiped off the face of the earth isn't antisemitism is never explained), and anything bad said about Islam is "Islamophobia".

But I agree it isn't so much bigotry as it is snobism. Maher clearly cannot imagine why anybody would ever have any opinions that do not 100% agree with what the "right-thinking progressives" from the big liberal coastal cities -- the only people who really matter -- happen to accept at the moment.

He's constantly amazed how many Americans are so stupid, bigoted, and ignorant as to dare to disagree with one or another points of the laundry list of progressive opinions he clearly considers gospel truth.

Christopher Hitchens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTrzZLM0Tm4) told him what's what. It's not that Maher disagrees with Hitchens -- Hitchens disagrees with, well, everybody -- but that he clearly is full of sheer disbelief that anybody could possibly think differently than he, Maher, does.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I hope Harry Reid gets his Mormon ass kicked in the election.

[Ladewig]

Bill Maher regularly expresses his contempt for anyone who isn't a thin, upper-class, educated, urban, liberal atheist.

While he has his faults, his politics are not as one-dimensional as you suggest. He respects Ann Coulter, supports the partial privatization of Social Security, and has some libertarian beliefs.

The other stuff on your list is pretty accurate.

[seewhatflows]

I've noticed the same attitude in this forum. There's a sliding scale: Christianity can be mocked with impunity, the silly "ultra-orthodox" or the "zionists" can be smeared with impunity buy one must make clear one isn't attacking Jews in general (though how wanting the only Jewish state wiped off the face of the earth isn't antisemitism is never explained), and anything bad said about Islam is "Islamophobia".


It is always acceptable to make fun of religious fundamentalists. How is Israel relevant to this conversation?

[Dorian Gray]

While he has his faults, his politics are not as one-dimensional as you suggest. He respects Ann Coulter, supports the partial privatization of Social Security, and has some libertarian beliefs.

The other stuff on your list is pretty accurate.His libertarian beliefs extend to "legalize pot".

[mhaze]

So she wouldn't have a problem with gay marriage? Awesome! :)I can't imagine someone saying what she said having a problem with gay marriage handled in various ways at a state level. That's a typical small government Constitutional approach - let the states decide.

She's not running for a state office.

So where is a connection with this issue and the job she's trying to get?

Is there some kind of bill the Senate can/could/should vote on that has something to do with gay marriage?

Can't think of what it would be...

[mhaze]

It is always acceptable to make fun of religious fundamentalists.....

Correcting your statement.

It is always acceptable to make fun of religious fundamentalists, including zealous athiest fundamentalists.

[johnny karate]

All you guys feigning indignation know that Bill Maher is a comedian who hosts a comedy show, and that sometimes on his comedy show he does comedy, right?

[EvilSmurf]

Correcting your statement.

It is always acceptable to make fun of religious fundamentalists, including zealous athiest fundamentalists.

What would you consider "zealous fundamentalist atheism"?

[GrouchoMarxist]

All you guys feigning indignation know that Bill Maher is a comedian who hosts a comedy show, and that sometimes on his comedy show he does comedy, right?

Evidence?

[Bob Blaylock]

It seems to me that discussing whether Mr. Maher is a bigot or not is to attribute much more intelligence and depth to him than he actually has.

[MaGZ]

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-09-15/politics/primary.bill.maher_1_bill-maher-savior-s-alliance-election?_s=PM:POLITICS

Bill Maher: O'Donnell's win is good for the Democrats

Comedian Bill Maher says he's happy Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell won Delaware's GOP primary for U.S. Senate on Tuesday night.

First, because he knows and likes her. Second, because he thinks her nomination has ensured that Democrats will keep the Senate seat in the general election....

_____________

I wonder if we changed the quoted phrase to:

I hope Keith Ellison gets his Muslim ass kicked in the upcoming election

or

I hope Barbara Boxer gets her Jewish ass kicked in 2010,

would everyone still think it's perfectly fine.

Maher being a Jew, (half Jew actually) would never say that about Boxer.

[MaGZ]

The problem is that most of the POS's that want to rule us and are living in the US are christian and republicker. That's why those two terms are appropriate for use in the context. If enough muslims come in and enough of them start trying to switch us to sharia "law" then "muslim ass" will be appropriate - though I bet the christian right will be there supporting them all the way - since for fundies only the names are changed.:mad::mad::mad:

You seem to have missed the Jewish takeover of America.

[DC]

He is somewhat bigoted, but against all religions.
that Muslim from that Mosque in Religulous comes to mind." This Jew is not Funny, I know comedy and he never makes me laugh :)

ETA: I personally find he has some strange opinions about some religions, he isn't to well informed about them, but he makes me laugh with no end, i like him anyway. sympathetic bigotry if you will :D

[Praktik]

Ya actually I don't really like listening to him talk about religion all that much - though it must be said that in his rants he does happen on to some good zingers..;) I just don't line up intellectually with his particular brand of atheism, which is I dunno, kinda preachy ironically..;)

[Praktik]

All you guys feigning indignation know that Bill Maher is a comedian who hosts a comedy show, and that sometimes on his comedy show he does comedy, right?

Evidence?

Evidence. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szYWVMJ0_OE)

[fuelair]

You seem to have missed the Jewish takeover of America.

Why yes, I must have!! Oh, wait, I just checked a bit - and it turned out they decided not to - I guess you didn't get that memo. It was in the e-mail about three weeks ago!! The one from the Rothschilds - which reminds me, did you not get your invite to their Ramadan party? It was a blast!!!

Best, fuelair:D

[fuelair]

And i assume we all saw O'Donnell on witchcraft in a clip from Maher's old show. I could not quite push away the suspicion I had that any eating she was involved in on the satanic altar was not actually of the picnic kind!

[joobz]

You seem to have missed the Jewish takeover of America.
Well, if they have, you should be thanking them for improvements they've made.

[seewhatflows]

Correcting your statement.

It is always acceptable to make fun of religious fundamentalists, including zealous athiest fundamentalists.

Atheist fundies just aren't as...funny I guess.

[Dorian Gray]

All you guys feigning indignation know that Bill Maher is a comedian who hosts a comedy show, and that sometimes on his comedy show he does comedy, right? You should know that when it comes to the drug industry, he's 100% woo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXXTCc-IVg). Also, he smokes a lot of pot. He's not like Jon Stewart at all. He couldn't go to a breakfast on C-SPAN (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jon+stewart&suggested_categories=24%2C25%2C23&page=3) and hold his own, for example.


Okay, maybe he's only 90% woo.

[Olowkow]

I think she's a caricature of the ultimate Christian, and Maher knows it, otherwise it would not be funny.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/109727/christine_odonnell_witchcraft_casts_spell

[dc1971]

But then he stopped being funny long ago.

I think he's more controversial than he is funny. I do have his book "New Rules" and it includes some funny anecdotes.

Then again I think there are those here on JREF who could smoke a whole bag of weed, sit in the front row of the circus when the spotlight turns to the clowns piling out of a Mini Cooper and still keep a straight face due to their lack of humor.

Really, Bill Maher does have a sense of humor and I really gained respect for him when I watched this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p80hXaM4QgU

"And Cows disagree with me!"

[dc1971]

Correcting your statement.

It is always acceptable to make fun of religious fundamentalists, including zealous athiest fundamentalists.

A man (woman?) of corrections, we are!!

[Spindrift]

You seem to have missed the Jewish takeover of America.

I certainly did. Where do I get my yarmulke?

[Kensington Bailey]

Here is a snippet from Christine's web page, the "About Christine" section:

An effective communicator, Christine is known for her skill in winning over even those who disagree with her most. Liberal Bill Maher stated, “I don’t know how many times you’ve been here but it’s always a good show when you’re on.” Even Democratic strategist James Carville was forced to admit of Christine O’Donnell “Now, this is one hip woman,” on CNN’s “Crossfire.”

So, she is using her appearances with Bill Maher to further her campaign. But she has no qualms betitling Maher as "Liberal Bill." Bigoted? I dare say so.

[cienaños]

You should know that when it comes to the drug industry, he's 100% woo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXXTCc-IVg). Also, he smokes a lot of pot. He's not like Jon Stewart at all. He couldn't go to a breakfast on C-SPAN (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jon+stewart&suggested_categories=24%2C25%2C23&page=3) and hold his own, for example.


Wow. This is astounding, even for you Dorian.

Please enlighten us as to how physical exercise is a "100% woo" option in the battle against depression. Now before you try to confuse your half-argument with the link you posted, remember, Maher poses exercise as the logical approach towards depression. As opposed to the pharma pills you seem to be endorsing.

Again, your link is entitled "he's 100% woo." One-hundred percent of the link is woo. This includes his argument for exercise. Your words.

I await your evasion.

[technoextreme]

Wow. This is astounding, even for you Dorian.

Please enlighten us as to how physical exercise is a "100% woo" option in the battle against depression. Now before you try to confuse your half-argument with the link you posted, remember, Maher poses exercise as the logical approach towards depression. As opposed to the pharma pills you seem to be endorsing.

Again, your link is entitled "he's 100% woo." One-hundred percent of the link is woo. This includes his argument for exercise. Your words.

I await your evasion.
What evasion? The guy is a paranoid conspiracy nutjob who thinks that the pharmaceutical industry is making everyone sick for $$$$. Its quite evident from the video that was what he was saying. On top of that he thinks that germ theory is a fraud. He has been schooled by another famous idiotic doctor on the importance of vaccines. Its easiest softball on face of the earth. The only person who comes off more idiotic in medical issues is Jenny McCarthy and thats only because she can't string a single sentence together.

[dudalb]

Wow. This is astounding, even for you Dorian.

Please enlighten us as to how physical exercise is a "100% woo" option in the battle against depression. Now before you try to confuse your half-argument with the link you posted, remember, Maher poses exercise as the logical approach towards depression. As opposed to the pharma pills you seem to be endorsing.

Again, your link is entitled "he's 100% woo." One-hundred percent of the link is woo. This includes his argument for exercise. Your words.

I await your evasion.


When it comes to medicine, Maher is damn near 100% woo.

[Ziggurat]

The only person who comes off more idiotic in medical issues is Jenny McCarthy and thats only because she can't string a single sentence together.

Well, to be fair, it's possible Anna Nicole Smith said something even dumber, but we can't be certain since she had trouble stringing consonants together.

:duck:

[Undesired Walrus]

Would it kill Maher to be less smug?

[Ziggurat]

Would it kill Maher to be less smug?

Yes! It's his only weakness!

[Snide]

Umm, no actually you've sidetracked the OP, which makes a good point.

I've always believed in equal rights for comedy on all subjects. Maher doesn't.

But then he stopped being funny long ago.There's gotta be a Godwin equivalent to people who have little else to say on a topic other than an ad hom about someone who has done some sort of comedy, such as, "They're not funny, either."

From Al Franken to Dennis Miller...it's awfully lazy.

[Snide]

hmmm..

I doubt Bill Maher would say something about Joe Lieberman's "Jewish" ass.

this indeed may be a case of bigotry.He wouldn't say it because it's not as safe as saying "Christian ass" about a Christian. Doesn't make it any less or more bigoted.

[Aoidoi]

Well I for one am simply glad that he didn't comment on the proportions or attractiveness of said ass, as that would be sexist and we certainly can't have that!

[cienaños]

When it comes to medicine, Maher is damn near 100% woo.

Please explain to me how his film "Religulous" is 100% woo.

Please. I beg you. I await your evasion.

NOTE: religion as medicine is woo. in other words, 6 billion people see religion as medicine. please for the love of thor, explain to me how maher's view of medicine is so far off reality.

NOTE #2: Yes. Pills are nonsense for the most part. What people really need is diet and exercise, NOT PILLS. Please argue how pills can and should replace diet and exercise. I beg you.

[cienaños]

What evasion? The guy is a paranoid conspiracy nutjob who thinks that the pharmaceutical industry is making everyone sick for $$$$. Its quite evident from the video that was what he was saying. On top of that he thinks that germ theory is a fraud. He has been schooled by another famous idiotic doctor on the importance of vaccines. Its easiest softball on face of the earth. The only person who comes off more idiotic in medical issues is Jenny McCarthy and thats only because she can't string a single sentence together.

Psst. There is more material out there for you to read. Material that reasonable people read. All the time. It's common.

Give it a shot.

[varwoche]

Wow. This is astounding, even for you Dorian.

Please enlighten us as to how physical exercise is a "100% woo" option in the battle against depression. Now before you try to confuse your half-argument with the link you posted, remember, Maher poses exercise as the logical approach towards depression. As opposed to the pharma pills you seem to be endorsing. Don't be so literal. Clearly, Dorian exaggerated for effect.

But a comedian doing a bit? Now that's a situation where exaggeration is inappropriate.

[novice skeptic]

Back to the original premise of the OP: IMO he would never use the phrase Muslim ass on his show. Too scared

[Frying Dutchmen]

All you guys feigning indignation know that Bill Maher is a comedian who hosts a comedy show, and that sometimes on his comedy show he does comedy, right?

That has politicians, writers, scientist (joking) and other non comedy types on his show.

[Skeptic]

First, because he knows and likes her. Second, because he thinks her nomination has ensured that Democrats will keep the Senate seat in the general election....

I am not a particular fan of Maher, but how is this bigotry? It's precisely what happened. O'Donnel was simply a lousy candidate.

[varwoche]

I wonder if we changed the quoted phrase to:

I hope Keith Ellison gets his Muslim ass kicked in the upcoming election or I hope Barbara Boxer gets her Jewish ass kicked in 2010,

would everyone still think it's perfectly fine. There's a glaring difference -- Chistianity is the dominant, majority religion in our culture. Chris Rock gets it (NSFW): s692dqQVUIE

[novice skeptic]

There's a glaring difference -- Chistianity is the dominant, majority religion in our culture. Chris Rock gets it (NSFW): s692dqQVUIE

Just so I'm clear: Atheists are opposed to religious fanatics who run for office ONLY if they are the dominant religion in a culture, and thus it's ok for a religious fanatic whose religion is not dominant to run for office?

Finally my worship of Ra has given me an advantage in life.

[thaiboxerken]

Those who say Maher makes fun of Christians, but not the Jews and Muslims clearly do not watch the show.

[novice skeptic]

Those who say Maher makes fun of Christians, but not the Jews and Muslims clearly do not watch the show.

Those who say that Maher makes fun of Muslims to the same extent as he does Christians clearly do not watch the show.

BTW I'm an atheist too, but let's not pretend for a second that there is an equal amount of humor geared at Muhammed as their is Jesus.

[Cain]

Re: Bill Maher mocking Christianity.

Why doesn't the Daily Show make more fun of the North Korean media? It's way, way worse than Fox.

Why did liberals criticize Bush more than Bin Laden?

Anyway, I'm disappointed Stewart/Colbert would even go through with this rally because it's so half-assed. If you want to go activist, then go activist. If you want to sardonically comment on why everyone sucks -- glorified Internet commenter* -- then do that. It's another reminder of why the Right will continue to kick the left's ass. Stewart favors same-sex marriage, pot-legalization, and universal health-care (called Obama's legislation "timid"; Republicans view the same legislation as a "takeover" of the health-care sector). Bill O'Reilly's opinions are more mainstream.

[thaiboxerken]

Those who say that Maher makes fun of Muslims to the same extent as he does Christians clearly do not watch the show.

BTW I'm an atheist too, but let's not pretend for a second that there is an equal amount of humor geared at Muhammed as their is Jesus.
Probably because Muslims do not influence our government as much. I poke more ty Xians myself because they effect me more

[novice skeptic]

Probably because Muslims do not influence our government as much. I poke more ty Xians myself because they effect me more

Guess I'm one of those wacky people who were affected by 3,000 of my countrymen getting murdered.

Sorry to hear that didn't affect you.

[thaiboxerken]

Guess I'm one of those wacky people who were affected by 3,000 of my countrymen getting murdered.

Sorry to hear that didn't affect you.

Oh, the extreme Muslims do effect people in a more extreme way, but way less Americans. Christian extremists, however, affect the entire USA albeit in a less extreme way.

[CORed]

You seem to have missed the Jewish takeover of America.

That's probably because it never happened.

[plumjam]

I don't believe Bill Maher is a bigot.
I think he's a generally funny guy, who has a natural inclination towards free thought and free speech, and a suspicion of accepted truths, orthodoxies and the like.
His discussion shows were always worth watching IMO.

Now, I'm a theist, so when it comes to his movie Religulous, I watched it and found some parts funny, some parts questionable and some parts clearly him being too easily dismissive of things he clearly had not educated himself sufficiently about to try to take on a mocking stance.
Wrt the latter parts I was left with a feeling that he was trying to imitate Dawkins and surf the anti-religion money wave, for a great pension plan.

Whatever the case, I still find him amusing and worth doing a Youtube search for.
I'm sure he and I would get on great in real life.