View Full Version : Banning Valentine's. So good or no good?
afree87
20th February 2004, 10:39 PM
In Saudi Arabia, ever-alert Sheikh Ibrahim Al-Ghaith, president of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, recently issued a warning against celebrating Valentine's Day or the "Feast of Love." He instructed his officials all over the Kingdom to keep a watch on shops selling roses and other gift items to celebrate the occasion. Can't be too careful. Somebody might actually express love for another, and that would be the end of Islam. Sigh.
Yeah, it's always fun to tease religious nuts like Al-Ghaith, but I have too take issue with how Randi phrases the last sentence there. I certainly wouldn't say something like that about Christianity.
And don't argue that Islam is somehow more violent than Christianity, because it's obviously not. Remind me again, which one started the Crusades, and which one got invaded and responded peacefully, hrrrmmrm?
Zep
20th February 2004, 10:52 PM
I think Randi was being ever so slightly ironic.
afree87
21st February 2004, 10:52 AM
I guess I've been browsing ChristianForums too much.
thaiboxerken
22nd February 2004, 04:19 AM
I think he was being sardonic.
BillyJoe
22nd February 2004, 04:27 AM
Afree, is that a little mouse on top of your head? :)
BillyJoe
Hand Bent Spoon
22nd February 2004, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by afree87
Remind me again, which one started the Crusades, and which one got invaded and responded peacefully, hrrrmmrm?
Your example of this peaceful Islam I keep hearing about is hundreds of years ago.
Recently what hath Islam wrought? Remind me again which faith sent two planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Which faith held a Russian theatre full of civilians, including children, hostage under threat of being blown up?
These examples are recent, not mouldering away in the middle ages. Islam is, in its fundamentalist form, a hateful, violent religion. The day it ceases to exist (along with the other religions), the world will be a far better place.
Peskanov
23rd February 2004, 10:14 AM
Yeah, it's always fun to tease religious nuts like Al-Ghaith, but I have too take issue with how Randi phrases the last sentence there. I certainly wouldn't say something like that about Christianity.
I would. My grandfather and the priest used to fight againts most kinds of dances in the village 30 years ago. They found them highly inmoral; today nobody can even understand why the did...
Soapy Sam
25th February 2004, 02:51 AM
Hand Bent Spoon-
"Remind me again which faith sent two planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. "
-Misplaced faith in the universality of Common Sense.
Remind me again which faith contributes to mass death and poverty by forbidding contraception.
Remind me again which faith tells it's followers they are appointed by God to own Israel, and have the right to regularly invade their neighbours.
No matter how you choose between varied idiocies, you still get idiocy. A plague on all their houses.
Soapy Sam
25th February 2004, 03:06 AM
Incidentally, the Valentine ban is nothing new.(In Saudi Arabia).
Syndicated cartoon strips in newspapers were edited to alter "Christmas" to "Holiday" ast least 20 years ago. I recall a debate in the "Saudi Gazette" on whether it was correct to wish Christians "Merry Christmas". (Answer. "No.")
El Greco
25th February 2004, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by BillyJoe
Afree, is that a little mouse on top of your head?
No, it's big head on bottom of his mouse
Captain Trips
26th February 2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Hand Bent Spoon
Your example of this peaceful Islam I keep hearing about is hundreds of years ago.
Recently what hath Islam wrought? Remind me again which faith sent two planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Which faith held a Russian theatre full of civilians, including children, hostage under threat of being blown up?
These examples are recent, not mouldering away in the middle ages. Islam is, in its fundamentalist form, a hateful, violent religion. The day it ceases to exist (along with the other religions), the world will be a far better place.
I think your point is a little stretched. As you said, "in its fundamentalist form." Well, true Islam teaches peace above all. To lump the entirety of Islam under the same banner as a few extremists is equivalent to saying that all Xtians are violent because a small group thought David Koresh was Jesus reborn. It just doesn't wash. Just as most Xtians do not accept Koresh's actions, most Muslims do not agree with the actions of the few extremists. Think about it.
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