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bit_pattern
7th October 2010, 02:44 AM
An interesting take on economic growth being the be all and end all, thought I'd share

Ballooning success of capitalism is doing us a fat lot of good (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/ballooning-success-of-capitalism-is-doing-us-a-fat-lot-of-good-20101005-16613.html)

In Australia, 61 per cent of adults are overweight or obese, making us almost as fat as the Americans. In the past 20 years, our rate of overweight has increased faster than in any other developed country. It's projected to rise a further 15 per cent in the next 10 years.

And the good news? It's saving taxpayers money. Although healthcare spending for obese people is at least 25 per cent higher than for someone of normal weight, and increases rapidly as people get fatter, severely obese people are likely to die eight to 10 years earlier, so their shorter lives mean they incur lower healthcare costs over their lifetime. Even greater than the saving on smokers.

If you don't like that, try this. As measured by gross domestic product, obesity is a win-win-win situation. The more you eat, the more you add to GDP and the profits of businesses. If the messages of advertising and marketing make you feel self-conscious about your overweight, everything you spend on fancy diets, gym subscriptions and so forth adds to GDP.

And then when you damage your health, everything you, the government and your health fund spend on trying to keep you going also adds to GDP. Even when you die prematurely, that won't count as a negative against GDP - although the absence of your consumption will be missed.

Get the feeling there's something amiss?

ThermionicScott
7th October 2010, 11:39 AM
Does it say something horrible about me that I don't see a problem here?

- Scott

kmortis
7th October 2010, 11:43 AM
An interesting take on economic growth being the be all and end all, thought I'd share

Ballooning success of capitalism is doing us a fat lot of good (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/ballooning-success-of-capitalism-is-doing-us-a-fat-lot-of-good-20101005-16613.html)
Something tells me that that article is missing some of the underlying costs of obesity.

bit_pattern
7th October 2010, 12:50 PM
Something tells me that that article is missing some of the underlying costs of obesity.

That... is kinda the point of the article. Or more rather our indicators of economic health don't take into account 'underlying costs' that can't be calculated in the GDP:

Egger and Swinburn say the trouble is our tendency to overshoot by trying to maximise, rather than optimise, good things such as economic growth and plentiful food. So the question is how long it will take us to recognise the signal that famine has turned to feast and too much feasting is bad for us.

But however long it takes us, our trusty GDP meter will continue assuring us we're doing fi

The True Scotsman
7th October 2010, 08:48 PM
Well, despite what the article suggests, it is hard for me to wrap my brain around obesity being anything but a character flaw (not to say that it isn't fixable).

Going on a different point, the article brings up the case that GDP does not measure all indicators of human prosperity, but rather only economic prosperity. That is why many economists are starting to use the HDI (Human Development Index) which measure not just economic growth, but also education levels, life expectancy, and average living standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#Three_dimensions_in_the_HD I