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svero
4th March 2003, 09:46 AM
Just thought I'd run my own unscientific poll and see where the public stands. If you're not a US citizen don't vote since err... you won't be voting.

Jedi Knight
4th March 2003, 09:50 AM
Bush!! Bush!!! 8 more years!!!!

JK

4th March 2003, 09:53 AM
Didn't vote for him the first time, won't vote for him in the future.

aerocontrols
4th March 2003, 10:01 AM
You couldn't put "probably" and "probably not" options in the poll?

Oh, well...

svero
4th March 2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by aerocontrols
You couldn't put "probably" and "probably not" options in the poll?

Oh, well...

I'm not interested in those kinds of wishy washy opinions. Get some backbone man! ;-)

ZeeGerman
4th March 2003, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Bush!! Bush!!! 8 more years!!!!

JK

Heck JK!

Maximum is 4 -in letters four- .... (count the dots) more years.

That you must have that explained to you by a german leftist - what a disgrace.

Schtonk

Zee

headscratcher4
4th March 2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Bush!! Bush!!! 8 more years!!!!

JK

I was sort of thinking 5 to 10....;)

Supercharts
4th March 2003, 10:27 AM
It depends on if we win the war with N. Korea. :rolleyes:

corplinx
4th March 2003, 10:28 AM
He will lose of course to the democratic dream ticket of Al Sharpton with vice presidential candidate Bernie Mac (they stole this idea from a new Chris Rock film).

c0rbin
4th March 2003, 10:29 AM
Those Bushes are one trick ponies.

One term, one cause.

Domestic affairs will rear their ugly head again.

4th March 2003, 10:34 AM
Domestic affairs? You mean the Pres has to pay attention to that stuff too?

corplinx
4th March 2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by c0rbin
Domestic affairs will rear their ugly head again.

Domestic affairs as in how Bush Sr. was made to look bad because he wasn't doing work outside his constitutional powers (foreign relations + military) ? I always attributed the people bashing presidents for not enough domestic stuff to being ignorance of the constitution.

If you want a better domestic agenda, stop electing weasels to congress.

Saturn
4th March 2003, 11:42 AM
Virtually any Democrat would get my vote in the general election, although I won't vote for any in the primary who supported the war. The exception is Lieberman - if he is nominated, I will write in my vote for someone else. Lieberman has managed the difficult task of being a bigger warmonger than Bush.

Advocate
4th March 2003, 11:44 AM
I suppose I should say it depends on who the Democrats run against him, but I don't think its likely they will run anyone I will like any better and very likely they will run someone I will dislike far more. So, while being open to the possibility of change, I would say right now I would vote for Bush again.

c0rbin
4th March 2003, 12:04 PM
Domestic affairs as in how Bush Sr. was made to look bad

Elections are a bitch. I fully support the ousting of evil dictators. I think this whole thing could have been done multi-laterally if Bush's PR machine had form.

"Terrorism...Weapons of mass destruction...terrorism...non-compliance...weapons of mass destruction..."

Or...

"We have the key evidence that links absolutely Saddam to Al Qaida...this tape recording of a man who sounds like Osama talking to a man who we think is a high-ranking Iraqi intelligence officer."

If they can't sell the destruction of terrorism to people who suffer through it more often then we, how is his administration going to sell anything here at home? Especially after his first election?

Ladewig
4th March 2003, 12:10 PM
Those Bushes are one trick ponies.

One term, one cause.

Yes, but even at the rate of one term/Bush you have to remember that there are a lot of them. Jeb in 2008? Neil in 2016? Jenna in 2024?

corplinx
4th March 2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by c0rbin

I think this whole thing could have been done multi-laterally if Bush's PR machine had form.


When the PLO was the most dangerous terror threat we faced. We were opposed by many countries you would think would support us. Apparently many of them had diplomatic ties with the PLO (Italy for instance).

I think part of the problem with garnering multi-lateral support is the complexity of international relations. For instance, like Italy keeping us from taking the PLO cruise ship hijackers, now France stands in our way and they consequently have many deals going on in Iraq.

In short, I am not sure multi-lateral support will work since most countries are weasals just like us.

I think we should have gone about this unilaterally. If we had done so, we would probably have a free Iraq right now and be much better prepared for dealing with North Korea.

This multilateral nonsense has cost us valuable time, face, and now has us in a weak position to handle a nuclear North Korea.

Now, anytime anyone brings up unilateral action you get europeans yelling about us "american cowboys". The truth is, we can get this done more quickly and with less casualties with a US only force.

Wolverine
4th March 2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by corplinx
If you want a better domestic agenda, stop electing weasels to congress.

Tell him what he's won, Johnny!!! :)

Right on.

c0rbin
4th March 2003, 12:32 PM
I think we should have gone about this unilaterally.

I think we will be doing this Unilaterally, which is fine by me. I think we will do the world some good whether it wants it or not.

Incidentally, in the last year, I bought my first house and had my second child (3 yrs and 4 months). Nothing says "local civic lesson" better than property ownership and growing family.

College kids and socialists have time to march and wave posters, I have taxes to do :)

circuitslave
5th March 2003, 09:05 PM
They forgave Clinton's character because of the economy

They will forgive Bush's economy because of his character.


But ultimately, the only person that can defeat Bush....is Bush.

The Central Scrutinizer
5th March 2003, 09:24 PM
You forgot a fourth choice:

Not Voting

Oso
5th March 2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Ladewig
Yes, but even at the rate of one term/Bush you have to remember that there are a lot of them. Jeb in 2008? Neil in 2016? Jenna in 2024?

I live in Texas and proud to say I've never voted for a Bush.

Having said that I'm still for regime change, just not because of WMDs or any direct threat to the US. Without Saddam Iraq would probably be one of our strongest allies in the region. We could abandon Saudi Arabia completely.

Unfortunately this invasion will be the biggest obstacle to that.

svero
5th March 2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
You forgot a fourth choice:

Not Voting

That's covered under the 3rd choice since I'm not really interested in whether a 3rd party candidate will win as that's not a realistic scenario. (ahhhh democracy)

fishbob
6th March 2003, 01:12 AM
But ultimately, the only person that can defeat Bush....is Bush. Not if he keeps his mouth shut.

Tricky
6th March 2003, 07:00 AM
While foreign policy and the economy are big issues, I cannot vote for Bush because he has done more than any president in history to wreck the environment. From his guileless slap-down of the Kyoto accords to his virtual dismantling of the EPA, he has basically sold America to his rich friends. This is not a thing we can recover from quickly.

It is only too ironic that one of the main reasons he is in power is because of the Green Party splitting the liberal vote.

svero
6th March 2003, 08:37 AM
Well according to this Poll Bush had best hope that the JREF members are not representative. Of course the lot of you that voted for any random democrat are probably all living within the boundaries of the same electoral college vote. :-)

Jedi Knight
6th March 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by ZeeGerman


Heck JK!

Maximum is 4 -in letters four- .... (count the dots) more years.

That you must have that explained to you by a german leftist - what a disgrace.

Schtonk

Zee

Yeah, I know the election standard. As a leftist you should have considered the possibility that I knew the standard, and then asked yourself why I wanted Bush to be president for at least another 8 more years.

JK

CWL
6th March 2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Yeah, I know the election standard. As a leftist you should have considered the possibility that I knew the standard, and then asked yourself why I wanted Bush to be president for at least another 8 more years.

JK

Yes, but technically he can only hold the office for two terms, right? So where would the 8 years come from?

Tricky
6th March 2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by CWL


Yes, but technically he can only hold the office for two terms, right? So where would the 8 years come from?
I think he's hoping Jeb will take over after Dubya is done. Or maybe Noelle. (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/10/noelle.bush/)

roger
6th March 2003, 02:03 PM
It all depends on who is running against him, and what Bush does between now and then.

Jedi Knight
6th March 2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by CWL


Yes, but technically he can only hold the office for two terms, right? So where would the 8 years come from?

From Bush's loyal following lol.

Bush!! Bush!! 8 more years!!!!!!

JK

gnome
6th March 2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Tricky
It is only too ironic that one of the main reasons he is in power is because of the Green Party splitting the liberal vote.

Another reason this country really needs runoffs...

So you can vote your conscience without supporting the opposing party.

Heck, this probably would have given the White House to Bush Sr. in '92, but I'm for it anyway.

CWL
7th March 2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Tricky

I think he's hoping Jeb will take over after Dubya is done. Or maybe Noelle. (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/10/noelle.bush/)
Why doesn't our good friend the Jedi simply suggest scrapping democracy in the US in order to introduce monarchy instead? How does George Walker I of the Bush Dynasty sound?

svero
7th March 2003, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by CWL

Why doesn't our good friend the Jedi simply suggest scrapping democracy in the US in order to introduce monarchy instead? How does George Walker I of the Bush Dynasty sound?

It's obvious isn't it? Jedi Knight must have extensive ties to bush oil money.

susheel
7th March 2003, 02:25 AM
What Bush oil money? I though he'd screwed up that business pretty thoroughly.

Oso
7th March 2003, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by susheel
What Bush oil money? I though he'd screwed up that business pretty thoroughly. No, No, No GW kept Harken Energy Group propped up and fat with money from Saudi banker Khaled bin Mahfouz, known in Arab circles as the "king's treasurer". The worst thing that happened to Harken was for Bush to sell his stock and leave along with his money.

Guess who else Khaled bin Mahfouz is financing. Well, was financing, his assets have now been frozen. How's that saying go?... follow the money?