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1st March 2004, 02:53 PM
Inane rather than weak. Have you compared it to Incompatibilism? Both were ideas discussed by the pre 20th century clockwork-world determinists, and/or indeterminists, to obscure the problem that people should be morally accountable for their actions, but why hold an automaton accountable.
This quote got me thinking about crime and punishment. In our world, too many people get off for crimes because of ******** about how they "weren't themselves." Take for example the infamous twinkie defense; I was hopped up on sugar from eating twinkies, I was insane.
To me, insanity is a ******** plea.
Anyhow, that's not the point. This is.
Whether free will exists or not, you still have to hold people"morally accountable." If free will exists, the action is seen as punishing a person for a decision they made so that next time they might choose to avoid the punishment.
If you take free will to not exist, the action is seen as trying to recondition the person by attaching a heavier negative weight to the action.
Either way, the same actions are necessary. I have yet to see any argument applicable to the real-world that can be made or unmade by the presumption of free will.
This quote got me thinking about crime and punishment. In our world, too many people get off for crimes because of ******** about how they "weren't themselves." Take for example the infamous twinkie defense; I was hopped up on sugar from eating twinkies, I was insane.
To me, insanity is a ******** plea.
Anyhow, that's not the point. This is.
Whether free will exists or not, you still have to hold people"morally accountable." If free will exists, the action is seen as punishing a person for a decision they made so that next time they might choose to avoid the punishment.
If you take free will to not exist, the action is seen as trying to recondition the person by attaching a heavier negative weight to the action.
Either way, the same actions are necessary. I have yet to see any argument applicable to the real-world that can be made or unmade by the presumption of free will.