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Ed
4th March 2004, 04:34 AM
And did I mention the Jews?

From Al Jezzera, today:


Dr Harith al-Dhari, secretary-general of the Association of Muslim Scholars, the highest Muslim Sunni authority in Iraq, blamed foreign powers such as Israel for the attacks. He described the attackers as those parties interested in plunging Iraq into civil war.

"Let us analyse the incident and find out who would benefit from such carnage," he said.

"No Iraqi is interested in perpetuating the state of chaos, but there are parties like the occupation and Israel interested in prolonging the period of occupation.

"They know very well that civil war would make the life of the occupiers easier in Iraq."

Civil war will make it easier? That is the reason for the US being behind these murders? Isreal? Isreal was responsible for these bombings? For what reason?

They con tinue onward:

"An Iraqi citizen would not attack a mosque, and a Muslim would not attack Muslims, these are red lines in our people's ideology," he said.

Yeah, red lines until it is convienient to cross them.

Naturally, if the US hammered what really was going on people would accuse the US of fostering anti-islam sentiment.

Fah.

Edit: Sorry, I assume that everyone reads Al Jezzera in the original Arabic every morning as I do.... Here is an English link (they actually are pretty good)

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8D7DB30D-A8F7-4800-9253-E9F4B60836CC.htm

Darat
4th March 2004, 04:37 AM
""No Iraqi is interested in perpetuating the state of chaos, but there are parties like the occupation and Israel interested in prolonging the period of occupation."

Right - and I take it that the suicide bombers were USA, UK and Israel citizens then? Sheesh talk about not wanting to take responsibility...

(Edited to add.)

"An Iraqi citizen would not attack a mosque, and a Muslim would not attack Muslims, these are red lines in our people's ideology," he said."

Also I wonder how the Israel and USA armies manged to stage the whole of the Iran/Iraq war... Wonder who faked being which side...

(Ed - can you provide a link to the article/interview?)

zenith-nadir
4th March 2004, 04:39 AM
One thing I have noticed about the Arab mentality is that they have a very hard time being introspective and assuming any responsibility.

I dunno if it is cultural or biological, but if you were to ask 90% of Arabs who is responsible for 9-11 they would say America..... Just like this guy is blaming America for Arab terror against fellow arabs in Iraq.

iain
4th March 2004, 04:42 AM
It's no secret that the US has enemies in the Muslim world. Did the US really not expect them to exploit this situation as much as they could; to use lies and propaganda to turn people against the US?

Apparently not. It seems that before the war, the Whitehouse thinkers were of the opinion that democracy would be welcomed in Iraq and other countries in the region would fall in line with the so-called "domino effect".

The point is that regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation, the war planners in the US should have figured out (as many others did, and said so, prior to the war) that if you invade a country far from home in a region where anti-American feeling is rife and there are lots of warring factions, you're going to be pretty lucky if the population all welcome you and admit that the American Way is right after all.

a_unique_person
4th March 2004, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by zenith-nadir
One thing I have noticed about the Arab mentality is that they have a very hard time being introspective and assuming any responsibility.

I dunno if it is cultural or biological, but if you were to ask 90% of Arabs who is responsible for 9-11 they would say America..... Just like this guy is blaming America for Arab terror against fellow arabs in Iraq.

That's funny, it seems to be a more universal trait than just an Arab failing.

Darat
4th March 2004, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person


That's funny, it seems to be a more universal trait than just an Arab failing.

I must agree with you. The number of us who stare out of our now glass free glass-houses and wonder - "What happened to the windows?" is staggering.

zenith-nadir
4th March 2004, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Darat
I must agree with you. The number of us who stare out of our now glass free glass-houses and wonder - "What happened to the windows?" is staggering.


Originally posted by a_unique_person
That's funny, it seems to be a more universal trait than just an Arab failing.


Example #1 and #2. Arabs don't have an introspection problem, the people who say they do actually have the problem. :D

Darat
4th March 2004, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by zenith-nadir


Example #1 and #2. Arabs don't have an introspection problem, the people who say they do actually have the problem. :D

Eh what? Your point being?