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Nie Trink Wasser
5th March 2004, 01:02 PM
I do not support Howard Stern being knocked off the air.

I also do not support Howard Stern's accusation that his criticism of Bush is why he's being pulled off the air.

Stern is the biggest shockjock in america and after the Janet Jackson "I need more attention than Britney and I have an album coming out, woops there's my boob on family tv" the FCC and related companies are trying to make an example of him ONLY for the vulgarity.

once again.....he should be put on the air......but his victim-of-bush pandering to the antibush crowd in an election year is transparent.

Tmy
5th March 2004, 01:10 PM
Well lets see

Clear channel has ties to Bushes

Stern is on 6 Clearchannel stations

Stern has been pro Bush for the last few years

Stern has millions of listeners

Stern has had no problems.

Stern starts being anti-Bush

After years of the same stuff, Clear channel NOW finds hes being offensive

Stern is tossed off Clearchannel.

Clearchannel hires equally contraverisal yet right winged Whatz his name Savage.

Is it that looney a conspiracy?? Same thing happened with CC and the Dixe Chicks.

Nie Trink Wasser
5th March 2004, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Tmy
Well lets see

Clear channel has ties to Bushes

Stern is on 6 Clearchannel stations

Stern has been pro Bush for the last few years

Stern has millions of listeners

Stern has had no problems.

Stern starts being anti-Bush

After years of the same stuff, Clear channel NOW finds hes being offensive

Stern is tossed off Clearchannel.

Clearchannel hires equally contraverisal yet right winged Whatz his name Savage.

Is it that looney a conspiracy?? Same thing happened with CC and the Dixe Chicks.


woo woo

conviently you've left out the super bowl fiasco as it relates.

ASRomatifoso
5th March 2004, 01:26 PM
I don't care if it's a conspiracy or who he blames. He has gone farther on less talent than almost anyone I can think of and I can only see this as a good thing.

My hope is that he will fade into anonymity quickly and be forgotten.

However, given our society's penchant for trashy entertainment, I fear that he will return, probably more than once, in those assless pants that he seemed to think were so very funny.

Evolver
5th March 2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by ASRomatifoso
I don't care if it's a conspiracy or who he blames. He has gone farther on less talent than almost anyone I can think of and I can only see this as a good thing.

My hope is that he will fade into anonymity quickly and be forgotten.

However, given our society's penchant for trashy entertainment, I fear that he will return, probably more than once, in those assless pants that he seemed to think were so very funny.

No, there WAS an a$$ in them.

Tmy
5th March 2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser



woo woo

conviently you've left out the super bowl fiasco as it relates.

Silly me, I shoudlve known that a boob shot in a super bowl 1/2 time show woudl naturally lead to the backballing of syndicated morning radio show that had zero ties to janet jackson. Yep, no scapegoating or conspiricies there.


As for Stern. Hes recently signed a deal wh ABC to do special interview shows. You can complain about his oversexed show but he does to a very good job at interviewing celebrities.

kittynh
5th March 2004, 01:35 PM
well, I'm sure Bush would be glad to take credit for taking Stern off the air. Heck, he's taking credit for being God's rep on Earth.

ASRomatifoso
5th March 2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Tmy



As for Stern. Hes recently signed a deal wh ABC to do special interview shows. You can complain about his oversexed show but he does to a very good job at interviewing celebrities.

I suppose he probably is good at that, however, IMO, that is nothing to applaud. I believe that "celebrity interviews" belong in that category of "trashy entertainment" that I mentioned in my original post.

BTW, the "sex" quotient of his show bothers me not at all. The sheer banality of it all bothers me, the self-congratulatory quality of his attempts at humor bother me (look at me, I'm so funny and my guests are really stupid!!) and the fact that he has such longevity bothers me. Stupid things come and go, they are a fact of life but when they stick around they start to gather an air of, if not respectability, at least acceptedness. People don't feel stupid saying that they like something like that because obviously some other people do, too.

That kind of populist argument lends credence to all manner of horrible *****.

corplinx
5th March 2004, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Tmy

Is it that looney a conspiracy??

Yes and the sad part is that you believe it. Try shaving with occam's razor sometime you cute little kook.

Tmy
5th March 2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by corplinx


Try shaving with occam's razor sometime

Thats just what THEY want me to do!!!:p



Stern grows on you. The end of the show, when the cover the news, it kills me!! They just poke fun of all the nonsense out there. Its an aquired taste.

I think he does a great job in interviews. 100x better than Larry King, Babs Walters and the other softball throwers.

Zep
5th March 2004, 02:04 PM
Which of the following people, judging by the amount of air-time they receive, reinforce the impression the USA is inhabited by a bunch of idiotic boobs:

* Howard Stern
* Janet Jackson
* George W Bush
* All of the above

HarryKeogh
5th March 2004, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Zep
Which of the following people, judging by the amount of air-time they receive, reinforce the impression the USA is inhabited by a bunch of idiotic boobs:

* Howard Stern
* Janet Jackson
* George W Bush
* All of the above

oh for F's sake, yeah, I listen to Stern, I watch Friends and I bought Eminem's last album. It's so tiring to hear people say how popular culture is dumbing down the country. Stop being so judgemental of what other people find humorous or entertaining and lighten up. (and for the record I also listen to classical music, look forward to the latest episode of Nova and enjoy reading biographies of world leaders, it's just nice to not take everything so damn seriously all the time)

(and Zep, this isn't directed at you but just elitist pricks in general especially the biggest prick of them all...the guy who doesn't own a television and makes a point of working that fact into every conversation possible)

and to those who think Howard Stern is talentless...I find it highly unlikely that a talentless individual could keep over 10 million people entertained daily for 20 years straight. But I guess they are all dumb, lazy Americans (even though Stern listeners have the highest average annual income of any American radio program)

LFTKBS
5th March 2004, 03:00 PM
Hey, ladies*, while you and your sewing circle are getting all up in arms about how "trashy" Stern is, remember that he's the only media person calling out John Edward, James Van Pragh, and slanderous Sylvia on their bullsh*t.

*Zep & ASRomatifoso

Zep
5th March 2004, 03:41 PM
I left out a smilie like this ---> :D

Truly, I did!

a) I have heard Howard Stern a few times, and I was not overly impressed, personally. Not up in arms at all, and nothing to do with "trash" or not (which he isn't particularly, in my own short-evidenced opinion). Shock-jock maybe. But kudos to him if he is calling out the woo-woo wierdos.

b) The Janet Jackson boob incident, and JJ herself, were never, EVER newsworthy items here. A big, BIG, dull yawn. But the USA's reaction to it was noteworthy!

c) Outside the USA, GWB is regarded as a boob in the derogatory sense. 1/10, America; we know you can, and will, do better.

d) We really do like the average Americans - nice folks are nice folks the world over. And we also watch Friends and The Simpsons, etc, but please don't think that we would rather be you!

LFTKBS
5th March 2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Zep
I left out a smilie like this ---> :D

Truly, I did!

Then all is forgiven.

Some Friggin Guy
5th March 2004, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Zep
I left out a smilie like this ---> :D

Truly, I did!

a) I have heard Howard Stern a few times, and I was not overly impressed, personally. Not up in arms at all, and nothing to do with "trash" or not (which he isn't particularly, in my own short-evidenced opinion). Shock-jock maybe. But kudos to him if he is calling out the woo-woo wierdos.

b) The Janet Jackson boob incident, and JJ herself, were never, EVER newsworthy items here. A big, BIG, dull yawn. But the USA's reaction to it was noteworthy!

c) Outside the USA, GWB is regarded as a boob in the derogatory sense. 1/10, America; we know you can, and will, do better.

d) We really do like the average Americans - nice folks are nice folks the world over. And we also watch Friends and The Simpsons, etc, but please don't think that we would rather be you!

Zep, speaking as an American who has lived in other countries, I would like to thank you for bringing up point D.

Do you have any idea how often I have to tell people "No, they don't hate us, and no they're not jealous"?

peptoabysmal
5th March 2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Zep
I left out a smilie like this ---> :D

Truly, I did!

a) I have heard Howard Stern a few times, and I was not overly impressed, personally. Not up in arms at all, and nothing to do with "trash" or not (which he isn't particularly, in my own short-evidenced opinion). Shock-jock maybe. But kudos to him if he is calling out the woo-woo wierdos.

b) The Janet Jackson boob incident, and JJ herself, were never, EVER newsworthy items here. A big, BIG, dull yawn. But the USA's reaction to it was noteworthy!

c) Outside the USA, GWB is regarded as a boob in the derogatory sense. 1/10, America; we know you can, and will, do better.

d) We really do like the average Americans - nice folks are nice folks the world over. And we also watch Friends and The Simpsons, etc, but please don't think that we would rather be you!

Why do I suddenly feel like bursting out in a chorus of "I gotta be me"? Must be all the gay news lately.

NOTE TO LIBERAL CONSPIRACY ADVOCATES:
You are right! Clear Channel is owned by conservatives and is a private corporation! They can hire and fire who they want! The very idea! Conservatives do indeed own the AM airwaves, just as you suspected! Don't feel too sad, as you liberals still own FM radio, television, movies, music, newspapers and the Internet. All is not lost!

Zep
6th March 2004, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by peptoabysmal
Why do I suddenly feel like bursting out in a chorus of "I gotta be me"? Must be all the gay news lately.What the f*** are you talking about, pepto???

Ed
6th March 2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Zep
I left out a smilie like this ---> :D

please don't think that we would rather be you!

That is because you are in Oz and upside down and the blood is rushing to your head. Anyone who has taken Geography in one of our excellent public schools knows that.

zenith-nadir
6th March 2004, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Ed
That is because you are in Oz and upside down and the blood is rushing to your head. Anyone who has taken Geography in one of our excellent public schools knows that.



I'm not sure if it is the 'blood' or the fact that their toilet water spins the wrong way...;)

Marc
6th March 2004, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by LFTKBS
Hey, ladies*, while you and your sewing circle are getting all up in arms about how "trashy" Stern is, remember that he's the only media person calling out John Edward, James Van Pragh, and slanderous Sylvia on their bullsh*t.

*Zep & ASRomatifoso

He mentioned that Van Pragh is going to be on their show sometime soon. Everyone was commenting on how desperate he must be to come on there. A real vipers den, hehehehe :D

HarryKeogh
6th March 2004, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Marc


He mentioned that Van Pragh is going to be on their show sometime soon. Everyone was commenting on how desperate he must be to come on there. A real vipers den, hehehehe :D

the last time Van Pragh was on (about half a year ago) Howard made him look like an absolute fool. JVP gave the usual excuses, of course, but anyone listening realized how sad and pathetic Van Pragh is as a cold reader.

I agree, Marc, Van Pragh must be really desperate for some attention.

ASRomatifoso
6th March 2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by LFTKBS
Hey, ladies*, while you and your sewing circle are getting all up in arms about how "trashy" Stern is, remember that he's the only media person calling out John Edward, James Van Pragh, and slanderous Sylvia on their bullsh*t.

*Zep & ASRomatifoso

Don't like him, never have, never will. I can only assume that this comment is meant to make me seem like some sort of prude, easily shocked, of tender sensibilities. Not a red-blooded American male who likes real entertainment. A rather presumptuous and overreaching statement, given that nothing in my post was slanted that way. but so be it.

Quite telling that you didn't try to defend him from the point of view that he has some social value, is actually quite a comic genius if you listen to him with a certain attitude, that he is a barometer of our times, etc., but merely went for the old tried and true insult, calling into question someone's manhood, etc.

LFTKBS
6th March 2004, 03:36 PM
"Quite telling that you didn't try to defend him from the point of view that he has some social value, is actually quite a comic genius if you listen to him with a certain attitude, that he is a barometer of our times, etc., but merely went for the old tried and true insult, calling into question someone's manhood, etc."

Well, this is a thread about Stern. Don't know why folks are expecting the Algonquin Table.

MLynn
6th March 2004, 03:42 PM
Clear Channel is big, but how big? Can Stern get his radio show going again?

HarryKeogh
6th March 2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by MLynn
Clear Channel is big, but how big? Can Stern get his radio show going again?

Clear Channel is huge but out of all the markets where Stern has his show syndicated only 6 of them are on Clear Channel owned stations (the others are on Infinity, the other big player in the radio world).

If Howard gets kicked off of Infinity that's it. Game over.

Unless he goes to satellite radio (XM and Syrius) but he would reach so few people compared to now.

And of course, the FCC has publicly stated that they are considering regulating cable tv and satellite radio the same way they regulate regular tv and radio.

Frank Newgent
6th March 2004, 06:37 PM
The morning after the New York power blackout last August I had CNN on the television. What's her name was interviewing someone knowledgeable about some technical aspects of the situation when their connection was lost. She had already moved onto some other inanity when a connection was reestablished. Or so we all thought...

The expert went on again for a few minutes about when Albany, Peekskill, and so on might get power back. The CNN host had asked him a few questions about what I don't remember when he abruptly said "Would you bonk Howard Stern?"

"What?" she said.

Again: "Would you bonk Howard Stern?"

Maybe more upset with her screening department than anyone else for letting someone from the Stern show hoax her like that on national television, she got indignant and after she sputtered a bit they went to commercial.

No, I'm not making this up.

If only that had been carried live on the Stern show as it happened. Or was it? I've never heard this mentioned otherwise, though I rarely hear his radio show anymore.

LFTKBS
7th March 2004, 08:28 AM
A quick note: those people who call the news networks, scam the screeners, and then say something like "BaBaBooey! BaBaBooey! Howard Stern's penis!" aren't actually from the show, you see. They're just fans with some nifty phone tricks and a lot of time on their hands. Just to clarify.

Fade
7th March 2004, 09:03 AM
Clear Channel is almost a non-entity for Stern. It's more the principle that would be ticking ME off, if I were him.

6 markets is tiny tiny tiny. In my relatively small state, I believe there are 3 seperate radio markets. The Seattle Metro area (which would be translated to the Olympic peninsula) the Tri-Cities area (south) and the Spokane area (which would cover all of the eastern part of the state).

Also, in this age of internet syndication and satellite radio, it's ridiculous to think he'll EVER go off the air unless he decides to himself. Despite years of the same boring things, he still gets fantastic ratings. Even if Infinity were to for some reason ditch him, smaller stations would be clamouring to get him. Think of the ratings (and money!) boost all the smaller stations would get just for having him on the air. Our local clear channel popculture stations, which was already immensely popular, picked up a shock jock named T-Man, and even THEIR already good ratings went up significantly.

No doubt Stern is going to be around for a long, long, long time.