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neutrino_cannon
4th March 2003, 08:16 PM
http://www.drchinese.com/David/Hume's_Determinism_Refuted.htm

3.2 Hume’s argument can be turned around and applied equally well to the theory that the laws of nature are indeterministic. We look out on our world, and note that chance events are commonplace. Numerous events transpire which are outside of our causal control, and are completely indeterministic by any objective standard. (If you question their status as indeterministic, then simply present a causal law which predicts such events. If you have assumed they could be explained by “undiscovered” causal laws, then you are not being objective.)

Whoa! Deep man.

Yahzi
5th March 2003, 08:12 PM
I always understood Hume's argument to be a demonstration of the weakness of formal logic, not a comment on the nature of the world.

Hume had absolutely no problem playing pool. I hear he was even good at it.

neutrino_cannon
5th March 2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Yahzi
I always understood Hume's argument to be a demonstration of the weakness of formal logic, not a comment on the nature of the world.

Hume had absolutely no problem playing pool. I hear he was even good at it.

The weakness of formal logic? Please explain.

And if there is any time when physics look deterministc, it's pool.

PixyMisa
5th March 2003, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by neutrino_cannon
And if there is any time when physics look deterministc, it's pool. You haven't seen me play.