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Johnny Pneumatic
12th March 2004, 07:20 PM
A few essays that I find interesting; maybe you will to.
http://atheists.org/church/tencommandments.html
http://atheists.org/church/jesuslife.html
http://atheists.org/church/twelve.html
http://atheists.org/church/ozjesus.html
http://atheists.org/church/fish.html
http://atheists.org/church/didjesusexist.html
Riddick
12th March 2004, 07:37 PM
I can sum it up for you in two words if you don't have time to read the links: Atheist propoganda
Yahweh
12th March 2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Riddick
I can sum it up for you in two words if you don't have time to read the links: Atheist propoganda
Your comment insinuates that you yourself didnt have time to read the links...
Legitimately, there could likely be bias present in the articles, and if they do, I'm sure its very easy for you to flatten the points Atheists.org makes by merely bringing up bias-neutral information to show the objective truth of what the concerning matters are.
Johnny Pneumatic
12th March 2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Yahweh
Your comment insinuates that you yourself didnt have time to read the links...
He posted 17 min. after mine. The essays are not short. I doubt he had enough time to read them.
Skeptic Warrior
13th March 2004, 09:48 PM
The open-mindness of the believers.:D
Riddick
14th March 2004, 05:10 PM
I read about 75% of one of the articles.
And I drew my conclusion from that and the fact that they are all from: atheist.org
hammegk
14th March 2004, 05:40 PM
Who are the articles supposed to be of interest to? Brights already know everything they need to about the subject, and f*cking retards are so dumb they won't be convinced.
Riddick
14th March 2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by hammegk
Who are the articles supposed to be of interest to? Brights already know everything they need to about the subject, and f*cking retards are so dumb they won't be convinced.
oh great, a porch monkey from redneck virginia.
Yahweh
14th March 2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Riddick
I read about 75% of one of the articles.
And I drew my conclusion from that and the fact that they are all from: atheist.org
You mean Atheists.org.
T'ai Chi
14th March 2004, 10:04 PM
From their FAQ's about Atheism:
"An "Atheist" is a person who has a lifestyle premised on the weltanschauung of materialism."
So how does that differ from a materialist? Are all atheists materialists or all materialists atheists?
Or, go to their online store, where you can buy the insightful "Atheists Are the Reason There's Reason" bumper sticker. I wonder if atheists invented reason of if any other group of people has reason??
Yahweh
14th March 2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by T'ai Chi
From their FAQ's about Atheism:
"An "Atheist" is a person who has a lifestyle premised on the weltanschauung of materialism."
So how does that differ from a materialist? Are all atheists materialists or all materialists atheists?
Or, go to their online store, where you can buy the insightful "Atheists Are the Reason There's Reason" bumper sticker. I wonder if atheists invented reason of if any other group of people has reason??
I've personally never been too impressed with folks who are too proud for their own good neither...
Yes, there are some virtues in Pride, and even a few virtures in Vanity, whatever happened to moderation of those two behaviors...
*Yahweh smells the wilted flowers laying on the computer desk*
hammegk
15th March 2004, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by Riddick
oh great, a porch monkey from redneck virginia.
Your psychic abilities aren't doing you much good, are they?
Once you sense something I hope you've figured out the opposite has much better odds.
ceo_esq
15th March 2004, 05:17 AM
The author of these essays, Frank R. Zindler, is a well-educated man and a skilled writer, but is essentially just a polyglot neurophysiologist with a strong general science background. It gets a little tedious to hear him expound about things that he does not have any formal expertise in (the American legal system; first-century Middle Eastern religions). In particular, his writings about the historicity of Jesus are shockingly badly researched.
Still, certain of his articles make a good read.
Johnny Pneumatic
18th March 2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Riddick
I read about 75% of one of the articles.
And I drew my conclusion from that and the fact that they are all from: atheist.org
I draw my conclusion that anything on christianity.com must be xian propoganda
scribble
18th March 2004, 06:04 PM
Which one did you read "about 75% of," Riddick, out of curiosity?
It's amazing to me that even after Lasik surgery, one can be so blind.
c4ts
18th March 2004, 06:28 PM
Riddick's posts could be considered Christian propaganda by his standards. If by reading 75% of them you discover that they are written by a Christian, surely they must be propaganda!
Yahweh
18th March 2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by c4ts
Riddick's posts could be considered Christian propaganda by his standards. If by reading 75% of them you discover that they are written by a Christian, surely they must be propaganda!
Or minimally, someone pretending to be a Christian...
Silicon
18th March 2004, 06:33 PM
I didn't like what I read.
"Your petitioners are Atheists, and they define their lifestyle as follows. An Atheist loves himself and his fellow man instead of a god. An Atheist accepts that heaven is something for which we should work now -- here on earth -- for all men together to enjoy. An Atheist accepts that he can get no help through prayer, but that he must find in himself the inner conviction and strength to meet life, to grapple with it, to subdue it and to enjoy it. An Atheist accepts that only in a knowledge of himself and a knowledge of his fellow man can he find the understanding that will help to a life of fulfillment."
Perhaps writing like this is why people seem to think that atheism is a religion.
I'm just an atheist because I can't find any evidence for God, or any evidence that any of the religions have anywhere near an accurate picture of even the natural world, much less the supernatural one.
c4ts
18th March 2004, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Yahweh
Or minimally, someone pretending to be a Christian...
Just because he says he's Christian, believes in Jesus, and does what his church tells him to do doesn't mean he really is.
scribble
18th March 2004, 11:36 PM
The passage in Josephus' Life mentions a town called Kepharnokon, not Kapharnoum, and it is only a blinding bias induced by Christian ganglion-washing that makes almost all scholars suppose that Josephus is talking about the biblical town. But Kepharnokon clearly is not Capernaum, and Capernaum, like Nazareth, is unknown outside the gospels before the end of the first century.
From where Jesus didn't walk.
The connection between the names seems at least as likely as the connections he draws in showing the the Jesus myth likely descended from Mithraism. Am I missing something, or is it a double standard?
epepke
19th March 2004, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by T'ai Chi
From their FAQ's about Atheism:
"An "Atheist" is a person who has a lifestyle premised on the weltanschauung of materialism."
So how does that differ from a materialist?
The difference is that it's got the word "Weltanschauung" in it. This is almost as good as using "ontological" three times in a sentence.
Honestly, even though I'm an atheist, I have only a vague idea what this is supposed to mean, and as far as I can tell, it's wrong.
An atheist is a person who isn't any kind of theist. Everything else is up for grabs.
epepke
19th March 2004, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Riddick
I can sum it up for you in two words if you don't have time to read the links: Atheist propoganda
Of course it's atheist propaganda, just as the New Testament is Christian propaganda.
Care to lay some more demonstrations of basic literacy on us?
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