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WWu777
13th March 2004, 03:41 AM
Hi all,
In case some of you don't check the other folder "JREF Community", check it out sometime. I posted some interesting new off-topic essays there dealing with other subjects I'm interested in. I don't know if the posters here check that folder too, so I thought I'd let you know.

Regards,
Winston

CFLarsen
13th March 2004, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by WWu777
Hi all,
In case some of you don't check the other folder "JREF Community", check it out sometime. I posted some interesting new off-topic essays there dealing with other subjects I'm interested in. I don't know if the posters here check that folder too, so I thought I'd let you know.

Regards,
Winston

Why do you think anyone would be interested in how you try to score girls (but obviously fail), in Asia or anywhere else?

Zep
13th March 2004, 03:57 AM
Hi Winston!

Looks like you are into peddling prostitutes and pornography for a living! How wonderful for you. At least you have seen the sense to drop the "afterlife" pretence with this particular escapade.

Oh, by the way. I'm now seriously considering referring each and every one of your "girls" posts you made here to Victor Zammit for his own delectation and review. You see, I have personal email contact with Victor, and we are on pretty good terms, more or less. So I'm sure he will be tremendously pleased at how you conduct yourself in public and what you get up to in your spare time. And especially he will be so proud of you since you proudly claim him as a buddy, you trumpet his name in all directions, and he proudly hosts your afterlife essay watchamacallit on his own website.

Won't that be nice?

Ta ta!

WWu777
13th March 2004, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by CFLarsen


Why do you think anyone would be interested in how you try to score girls (but obviously fail), in Asia or anywhere else?

W: Why are you so narrow minded? It is not just about girls, it's about society, culture, countries, etc. Your mind is such a dimwit.

And why do you think I fail? I have hundreds of girls in Russia. See my photo journals below for a glimpse of some of the bombshells I've dated. Perhaps you are describing yourself?

http://hometown.aol.com/wwu777/myhomepage/travel.html

WWu777
13th March 2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Zep
Hi Winston!

Looks like you are into peddling prostitutes and pornography for a living! How wonderful for you. At least you have seen the sense to drop the "afterlife" pretence with this particular escapade.

Oh, by the way. I'm now seriously considering referring each and every one of your "girls" posts you made here to Victor Zammit for his own delectation and review. You see, I have personal email contact with Victor, and we are on pretty good terms, more or less. So I'm sure he will be tremendously pleased at how you conduct yourself in public and what you get up to in your spare time. And especially he will be so proud of you since you proudly claim him as a buddy, you trumpet his name in all directions, and he proudly hosts your afterlife essay watchamacallit on his own website.

Won't that be nice?

Ta ta!

W: Oh I'm so scared! Sheesh, I sent those posts to try to help you losers. And you use it against me?

If you want, go ahead and tell Zammit. He probably already knows about it anyway. I've been on that topic for years. There's nothing dirty about what I do in Russia.

CFLarsen
13th March 2004, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by WWu777
W: Why are you so narrow minded? It is not just about girls, it's about society, culture, countries, etc. Your mind is such a dimwit.

And why do you think I fail? I have hundreds of girls in Russia. See my photo journals below for a glimpse of some of the bombshells I've dated. Perhaps you are describing yourself?

http://hometown.aol.com/wwu777/myhomepage/travel.html

"Hundreds"? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...........only if you buy them, Winston.

Zep
13th March 2004, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by WWu777
W: Oh I'm so scared! Sheesh, I sent those posts to try to help you losers. And you use it against me?

If you want, go ahead and tell Zammit. He probably already knows about it anyway. I've been on that topic for years. There's nothing dirty about what I do in Russia. Who's talking about scaring you! I just thought that Victor would like to share. After all, he's a friend of yours, right?

Had a look at your website - the "Russian women" are hidden behind the button labelled "Matchmaker", and therein lies another page on another site of Russian-brides-for-sale sites (http://www.americanwomensuck.com/matchmaker/index.htm). Oh me, oh my, Mr Big-time Guy! You're peddling Russian women for sale to the West and you're actually proud of it!

Gimme an L! Gimme an O! Gimme an S O E! Gimme an R! What does it spell? LOSER! I can't hear you! What does it spell?<h1>LOSER!</h1>

WWu777
13th March 2004, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by CFLarsen


"Hundreds"? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...........only if you buy them, Winston.

W: Nope, I don't deal with gold diggers. I dump them. I have too many real women to have to bother with them.

There are lots of nice women in Russia who won't let me buy them anything, and don't want me to buy them anything. It's too bad you didn't have the pleasure of experiencing that.

You are more cynical than I thought. If you read some of my advice articles, it will teach you to recognize the user from the nice girl.

Winston

WWu777
13th March 2004, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by Zep
Who's talking about scaring you! I just thought that Victor would like to share. After all, he's a friend of yours, right?

Had a look at your website - the "Russian women" are hidden behind the button labelled "Matchmaker", and therein lies another page on another site of Russian-brides-for-sale sites (http://www.americanwomensuck.com/matchmaker/index.htm). Oh me, oh my, Mr Big-time Guy! You're peddling Russian women for sale to the West and you're actually proud of it!

Gimme an L! Gimme an O! Gimme an S O E! Gimme an R! What does it spell? LOSER! I can't hear you! What does it spell?<h1>LOSER!</h1>

W: I do not have a matchmaking business, you liar! I have no vested interest or profit from it. That website you are referring to is not even mine. It belongs to another guy there. He simply hosted links to my material on his travel section, which helped me out a lot since I don't know to put up websites of my own. Only one page on his site is mine, which is the travel section under WWu777. And that's the honest truth. I am NOT selling anything. I am just trying to help and enlighten you losers.

WWu777
13th March 2004, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by CFLarsen


Why do you think anyone would be interested in how you try to score girls (but obviously fail), in Asia or anywhere else?

W: By the way dude, you obviously didn't read the posts I referred to. The posts about Asia were not my writings, but of another guy who went there. I have never been to the Philippines, so how could the tale be mine? It seems you only glanced at the title rather than read it. Since you're so lazy, here let me paste the story for you here below.

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Dear all,

I just read an incredible story on the message boards about a Ukrainian man's experiences in the Philippine island of Cebu. WOW! Dang! I couldn't believe it. It's a must read, and will inspire you to go there someday! Check it out. I pasted it below, and another post about it as well. It seems that for white American men, the Philippines is the best place in Asia for them to get women, for a variety of reasons listed below. The guy who wrote this not only described his experiences, but also his thoughts and feelings as well, and made comparisons with how women were in the US (just my style) kind of like how I do in my writings too, which makes life in America look so bad in comparison! Check it out, and pay attention to the paragraph I highlight in bold below, cause it's very touching.

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http://www.americanwomensuck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247

Post subject: Love and Adventure in the Philippines

"They all want to meet you"

Hi guys, I am from Ukraine and I lived in the US from 1978 until 1990 and left the US after that. I still go back on business and also to visit my parents but most of my life is now abroad.

I am a US citizen now and can now go back to Ukraine if I want to but I have created a bit of a lifestyle for myself that is even better than what I had in Ukraine.

The reason I am interested in Asian women is ,paradoxically, because of my school days in Russia where I lived from age 4-15. Not all people in Russia are white. There are small minorities of Oriental-looking people, the natives of Siberia and also, Tartars. There was this Tartar girl in my class and she had a crash on me. She was very cute and was the best student in the class. But she would write me notes and always turn around and stare at me. In Russia many girls chase guys and are aggressive. I was very shy at that time and did not respond to her advances. And I was only 14-15 at the time. Years went by but the sense of unfullfilled love lingered. I should have responded, I always thought. So, since then, I like Oriental looking girls.

In 1989 I dated this Filipina-American girl who was a knock out but a terrible person and she treated me like dirt. But I still got more and more hooked on the SE Asian look. She eventually dumped me and it was then that I thought that maybe the problem was not me after all. So, I got a job in Japan and left.

Japan is better than the US when it comes to dating, that's for sure and it is easier to get a girlfriend there. But there are problems. For one, most Japanese do not want to seriously get involved with a foreigner. There are some girls that will. And since there are 120,000,000 people there, you *will* find a girlfriend. I scored one girl per year. Not bad but still better than the US. Once I saved money I went to Thailand. Thailand is not a bad place but most girls that like white men are hookers. There are still many normal girls that will marry you but there is still a bit of a cultural/racial problem- they do not want to be seen with you in public, keep looking around as to what the others will say, in short, while it was still OK, it was not the best.

In 1991 I finally went to the Philippines to check it out. This was the place where I had a blast. I mean a real blast. The time I spent there was my great redemption. The absolute total repayment of damages that loneliness and mistreatment by women in the US caused me.

I arrived there a bit jittery- you always hear about how dangerous the Philippines was. A Navy guy recommended that I go to Cebu which was supposed to be a very safe place. So go I did.


After I arrived at the hotel where I was to stay, immediately I met a girl, a floor manager and she seemed to be interested in me. We talked and I plucked up my courage and asked her on a date- Guess what the answer was? "Yes!!! When can we go?"Wow! Just like that! I was not used to it. None of this- "I am busy, I have an appontment/headache" stuff you hear in the US.

I went out with her and we went to the movies , then, a few days later, the beach and then we started swimming under the full moon and kissing- that was a total blast- just like a dream...

Then, the next day I left early to avoid her as I really did not want to get hooked on the first girl I met and just stepped out of the hotel and started walking. The streets were full of young college girls- all in really cute uniforms and every girl was cuter than the next. Some were looking at me. Then one girl blew me a kiss. I heard "Wow! Handsome" coming from some...Incredible!

I was shocked! This was unreal. I was even embarrased. I got into a jeepney- it is a vehicle that the Filipinos use for transporation: It looks like this:

http://www.cebu-city.ph/Jeepney-WenWen.JPG

And as I sat down, one young guy told me: "Hey, you are new here, watch out! ". I asked him why I should watch out. He said: "Because we are gonna marry you to a Filipina." I grunted something and off we went. I went to the beach and then on the way back, these college girls just flooded into the jeepney. One really cute creature just like one of those dream Hawaiian girls from the movie Blue Hawaii just plopped right next to me smiling. The driver said: "You like her? Ask her out!" I was blushing. But since this was not the US, I plucked up my courage and said Do you want to go to the movies? The answer was a nod and a smile. We went to the movies . It is always " Yes" with those girls. Later after the movies, she took me to her house and introduced me to her family.

This was just the beginning. Later I got on another jeepney and it was full of girls, too. One girl stared at me and asked me: "You got a wife?". I said "No" . She pointed at her friends: "Well, choose one!". And they all roared with laughter.

The thing was the girls were all so cute and fresh-looking and appearing very happy. They were friendly. Modest, coquettish, feminine yet aggressive. Real girls.

The floor manager at the hotel met me again and we went out again but I told her " Baby, baby don't get hooked on me..." and just asked that we'd be just friends. Then the second girl called me and said these words:

"Hello, my name is Inday, we met in the jeepney. I told all the girls in college about you and they all want to meet you.

Yup! They ALL want to meet me.

I went to a department store and again it was chuck full of little miss Universes- sales girls. I approached a counter and they crowded me.
" You are so cute. Your face is so cute". Then on another occasion I was paying for some stuff that I bought and the cashiers started whispering something. I though something was wrong. The answer was: "Very handsome"." Who, me?". "Yes, you". "What is so handsome about me?"."I don't know, maybe it is your tantalizing eyes". And they started laughing.

I could go on and on and on. I would sit down and relax and girls would pass by and whisper to each other pointing me out. The word I learned was "gwapo"- handsome. Once I was just crossing the road. Four young ladies linked their hands and would not let me through. Sales girls from stalls would call out- "Hello, Darling!"

After a few days, I noticed something different about me when I looked in the mirror. My eyes were no longer sad as they used to be. I was smiling for real. Because this was the way a man should be treated. Appreciated. Desired. Women should seek him out and not the other way around. Rejections and maltreatment by women in the US or anywhere else where cruel women live harm the man from within. Rob him of his dignity. Slowly eat away at his self-respect and the sense of self-worth. Make him ill onhis inside. He may not show it but permanent scars would form on his inside. My time in the Philippines was like some magic ointmet for those scars. They were finally gone!

A place like that was not planet Earth the way I knew it. At least it should not be planet Earth. It was a Shangri-lah.

At night, my nighlife would start. I would go to bars and karaoke establishments and there would be girls everywhere and not many guys. The girls would crowd me. They were so gorgeous I was out of breath.

In the US, if you go to a night club, you always see more guys than girls and the guys look glum and pissed off. The girls look like they are princesses even if butt ugly. Here it was different. The guys looked friendly and non-threatening. Most were just relaxing. No competition. Enough girls for everyone to go around.

Eventually, I took three girls who were working in the karaoke and we went to a resort where we rented a hut on the beach under palm trees. If there is a heavenly situation that one can imagine, it would probably be falling alseep in a bamboo house while listening to the surf nd thewind rustling in the palm trees while being hugged by three angelic young ladies from the South Seas...

That's living!. No amount of job satisfaction or professional achievement cannot bring you close to the sense of fullfilment that such experiences can bring.

In 1998 I took $14,000 I saved up and went to the Philippines just to live. It lasted me six months. You can rent a hotel there for $200 a month. I had even more hell of a time. I was 38 now but nothing changed. The girls were still looking at me everywhere I went. I dated and dated. It just dont stop....

Anyway, I have a girlfriend in the Philippines now and she looks s bit like that Tartar girl I knew in Russia...I have been going to the PI for 13 years. My work is now in the Middle East so saving money is no problem.

I invite all guys who are fed up with being lonely to experience what I have experienced. The Philippines is 5-6 times cheaper than the US. It is easy to get there and tickets are cheap. It will make all those wounds heal like magic.

And if you are not handsome in the US, by being a Westerner you are automatically handsome in the Philippines. And if you are in your 40ies, 50ies and 60ies, no problem again. You can get a girl in her 20ies-30ies. And a guy in his 30ies can find an 18 year old just like that! If you do not look like the Hunchback of Notredame or the Elephant Man, you should be good to go...

And if the society in the US says that the problem is *you*, then try changing societies. You may be in for a big surprise.

As that Inday girl said:" They ALL want to meet you!"

WWu777
13th March 2004, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by Zep
Who's talking about scaring you! I just thought that Victor would like to share. After all, he's a friend of yours, right?

Had a look at your website - the "Russian women" are hidden behind the button labelled "Matchmaker", and therein lies another page on another site of Russian-brides-for-sale sites (http://www.americanwomensuck.com/matchmaker/index.htm). Oh me, oh my, Mr Big-time Guy! You're peddling Russian women for sale to the West and you're actually proud of it!

Gimme an L! Gimme an O! Gimme an S O E! Gimme an R! What does it spell? LOSER! I can't hear you! What does it spell?<h1>LOSER!</h1>

W: By the way, just to educate you, no one including me can peddle Russian women for sale, at least not literally. All people can do is sell you their CONTACT info. which could include mailing address, phone number or email. No one can buy or order a woman as a bride or girlfriend. That's a false media created myth. It's no different than using the personal ads in the states, except the women are much better in quality abroad. Read my essay below to get educated on this subject.

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Dear Reader,
If you are one of the many people who harbor the myth that most or all Russian women are desperate to leave their country, then please read my article below and consider the eight points in it. They are based on my experiences of being 6 months in Russia, visiting nine cities, and meeting hundreds of people there.

Regards,
Winston

Ten Reasons Why Russian Women Are NOT Desperate To Leave Their Country

By Winston Wu (WWu777@aol.com)

I would like to address something because it comes up so often when I enter discussions about Russian women. Many ignorant people (who have never been to Russia obviously) constantly claim that Russian women treat me and other foreign men much better because they are desperate to get out of their country. These people make snap judgments about something they know nothing about. This common claim is ignorant, laughable and easily disproven from every angle. Allow me to elaborate.

1) First of all, Americans are not the standard to compare the rest of the world by. Just because people in other countries are different, doesn't mean that they must have ulterior motives. Why can't people be naturally different or have different attitudes and behaviors without having ulterior motives or something fishy up their sleeve? American women are not the default standard set by God for how all women should be, else there is something wrong with them, thank goodness.

2) Second, most Russian women are NOT trying to leave their country to live abroad. In fact, according to the statistics on the Myths section of Elena's site (http://www.womenrussia.com/myths.htm) the percentage of the women in Russia affiliated with marriage agencies looking for foreign men is about 0.13 percent of the total population. That's almost a tenth of one percent! Such a stat is only an estimate, but the point is that the women looking to leave their country for good is a very small percentage of the whole, contrary to what egocentric Americans believe and what our media likes to perpetuate.

Through the many diverse Russian women I've met and interacted with in 9 cities, here is what I've gathered in regards to the position of the average Russian woman. Most Russian women love to travel to places like Europe, America, or other counries for vacation but not to move there permanently (I don't think that in any country, the typical person there is looking to leave it). And even among those that do want to leave their country to live elsewhere, many of them prefer Europe over America because it's much more convenient to come back home to visit their families, and because European culture is closer and similar to theirs. Also, even among those that want to leave their country, most of them are not desperate. They are merely considering it as an option, not basing all their hopes on it. They would consider moving abroad for the right man that they fall in love with, but it's not their goal in life.

A few may be desperate, but they are usually either gold digger types, have a highly materialistic mentality, need to be in an environment with a high money-making potential to be happy, brainwashed by Hollywood movies depicting luxurious lifestyles, or have a child that they need a financially stable man to help raise. But they do not constitute most of the women in marriage agencies, especially if they're in their 20's and still young.

This misconception arose partly because of the false image of Russian women portrayed by our egocentric media. One of the jobs of our media besides selling news for its advertisers, is to motivate you to get up and go to work or school everyday to keep our economy/society productive. (Do you think it's just a coincidence that the media's values are usually consistent with those of corporate America? For example, when there's a recession in our economy and consumer spending is down, or when people refuse to waste money on extraneous goods they don't need that only satisfy fleeting desires, the media does not see this as a good thing. Instead, rather than admitting that people have wised up or become more spiritually focused on non-material things, they portray this as a bad thing.) One of the ways of doing this is to make you think that other people are worse off than you and would give anything to be in your shoes. And of course, bad news sells better for the media and its advertisers, since people like to believe that others are worse off than they are and would give anything to be in their shoes, to keep themselves motivated in their current situation in life.

3) Third, as a matter of fact, there's really no such thing as a "Russian mail order bride" anymore than there is a Santa Claus. You cannot just go online and "order" a wife or bride. That denigrating term and concept was created by our media for political and social reasons. You can read about this in more detail at:

http://www.womenrussia.com/mail_order_brides/
http://www.womenrussia.com/russianwomen/escape.htm

Sorry folks, but the truth is, in real life you can't "buy" or "order" a bride from Russia, contrary to the fictional concept created by our media. Those marriage/introduction/dating agencies out there simply allow you to purchase their womens' contact information, not sell away their individual rights. You've still got to win their hearts or attraction to you. Of course, there are prostitutes in Russia that you can buy for a while, but these internet marriage/dating agencies are not in that kind of business. They are either legit, or else they are a scam to take your money without offering you someone real. But in either case, they are NOT letting you buy or order actual women to be brides. Of course, these agencies all have their share of gold diggers, visa whores, and leisure snoochers, but they have many quality women who are not like that at all.

4) Fourth, another factor at work here that helps us men, is that in Russia there is a big surplus of attractive mentally healthy single women, rather than a shortage like in the US. As we men all know, in the US there is a surplus of nice good single men and a shortage of nice attractive mentally healthy single women. As a result, even the less attractive women in the US can afford to become pickier, and single American men can easily have trouble finding any available decent women. Just go to a bar or nightclub in the US and you'll see that the men far outnumber the women. And even the unattractive women in those places seem like princesses to the big surplus of disgruntled unhappy chumps there. It's a really pathetic scene for the nice guy. On the other hand, in Russia and some other countries, there is a big surplus of attractive, friendly, mentally healthy single women with good values. And there's a shortage of nice, non-alcoholic single men there with decent money and values. That's why the conditions there greatly favor the American man. And another reason why many attractive single women in Russia are so friendly to me.

5) Fifth, if you want to claim that some of these Russian women want a foreign man because he has more money and is a better provider, that may be a factor, but you've also got to ask yourself, how is that any different from an American woman (or any woman for that matter) who wants a serious partner who is financially stable so he will be a good provider for the family? Such double standards are too prevalent in our society. Motives are not mutually exclusive, contrary to what ignorant people who don't like to think, want to believe. It is strange that many Americans sometimes assume that there must be only one motive to every action. Even with the ones that want to leave their country, at least they want to leave with someone they love and feel is compatible with them. Just because someone wants a foreign husband, doesn't mean they'll take anyone! Common sense should tell you that. After all, if an American woman wanted to have children and raise a family, do you think she will just marry anyone who could give her that? No, of course not. She would want the right person for her and her future, someone compatible with her with the qualities that she desires, who could capture her heart, and provide for her. So would you say then that her ONLY motive for being with any man was just to use him? Obviously not. So why would it be any different for a Russian woman who wanted to marry a foreigner? People are so quick to believe the worst about others, which is sad because it marks a sign of a dysfunctional psyche.

6) Sixth, there are many American man/Russian woman couples who live in Russia, not America. If the Russian woman in these couples was desperate to leave their country, then why would they choose to stay in Russia? Some of the men in these couples told me that their Russian wife/girlfriend preferred to stay in Russia, and so they stayed with them.

7) Seventh, the Russian women I met who weren't seeking relations with foreign men didn't treat me any less better than those who did. They were willing to spend time with me, get to know me, and didn't blow me off. The same goes for those who didn't have a romantic interest and just wanted to be friends. Besides, it is not uncommon in Russia for women to follow the "friends first" rule, as they do in most of the world.

8) Eighth, I can tell you conclusively from experience that overt friendliness and hospitality is an integral part of Russian culture. As my friend Masha told me after my first 6 week trip to Russia:

"I don't think that Russians treated you so well only to your being a rich, Hospitality is an integral part of Russian character, and you can see it during travelling by trains when people in one compartment became good friends, spending together not much time and treating each other with their food. On my way to Izhevsk, I was in one compartment with an old woman and spent 2 days together and she told me about all her life since her childhood and when she got off the train( but earlier than I) she introduced me to all her relatives who came to meet her at the station. So, don't think that you was met good only due to your been a foreigner, rich foreigner, may be, you can't understand why they did so, and I can't explain-it's Russian character, if you'll come to Russia again and live for a while, may be then you will understand and even feel why."

Well she was right. After 6 months in Russia, I experienced what she meant. I definitely felt the hospitality and friendliness that was an integral part of Russian culture and soul. It is something that exists without agenda or motive, and it's sad that many Americans cannot fathom such a concept that's above their heads, since in our western materialistic individualistic society, actions almost always have motives and agendas. That says sad things about what our society, though economically prosperous, has become. Our mistaken mentality is that just because we tend to be agenda-driven, does not mean other people are too.

9) Nineth, if they were desperate and saw me as a ticket out of Russia, why would some dump me if they didn't think we were compatible? And why didn't I get a 100 percent response rate from the ones I wrote, if it didn't matter who wrote to them, only that he could take them out of their country?

10) Tenth, I recently saw another good point made on an internet article I read. It made sense and is something I haven't considered before. Let me quote it.

(http://www.womenrussia.com/russianwomen/escape.htm)

"The truth of the matter is, that the percentage of Russian women who are looking for their "soul mates" through the internet is no greater than the percentage of women from western countries such as England, Canada, Australia and the United States who are searching the Internet for their future spouse!!!!
Here is an interesting tidbit: With the population of Russia at approximately 170 million people as compared to the United State's population of more than 250 million people, why is it that you don't see as many dating agencies from other countries?
The answer, is a simple one... CHOICE!!!
Women, from the USA and most other Western Nations have choices to use or not to use the services of a dating agency. Almost all women from western countries have computers at home or at work. The Internet services in most of these countries are ridiculously low when compared with the cost of the same services in Russia.
Only a few very big Russian cities such as Moscow and St. Petersburg have Internet services that are more or less affordable for an average person. Russia is a huge country, with its eleven time zones from East To West and is just now establishing Internet services. It is only within the last three or four years that the Internet service providers have begun to take hold within Russia and the fees for their monthly services are out of reach to most Russian citizens. It is not uncommon for most Internet services to cost $100.00 or more, a month. With the average salary, for example, for a Russian doctor being around a $100.00, it is a luxury few citizens can afford. But, we are talking about a single woman or a one-parent household.
Do you think that the average American single mother could afford this kind of money for Internet services? So, this is the reason why you see so many Russian dating agencies! Russian women HAVE TO USE their service!"

Conclusion

The people making these rash statements about Russian women being desperate to leave their country have never even been to Russia. No one who has spent extensive time there thinks that people there are desperate to leave their country. Most Russians are very proud of their country and culture, and it shows in their traditions, architecture, music, holidays, vibes, etc.

From what I've learned, the reasons why Russian women treat me better and give me much more attention are: 1) Some perceive me as rich and wealthy by their standards (even if I tell them that I'm not). 2) Those that don't care about money still see me as an exotic and interesting novelty, or as a chance to practice their English with. 3) Like I said earlier, there is a big surplus of attractive single women in Russia, and a shortage of good men who can treat a women right (which is inverse to the US). Therefore, a lot of nice single women who have trouble finding a good available man see me as a rare available find. 4) Finally, as mentioned above, Russian women themselves (and men too) are NATURALLY friendlier and more open anyway, so it isn't all about me. They are definitely naturally curious, communicative, intellectual, and exploratory. There is a free-spirited uninhibited playfulness about them which you would have to experience to know what I mean. These are common traits I've noticed in a very high proportion of Russian women I've met. Some Russian women are friendly to me due to one of these factors, other are due to a combination of them. But as you can see above, none of the reasons involve them being desperate to leave their country.

And if you still doubt this, then ask yourself this. Who is more qualified to comment on whether Russian women are desperate to leave their country, someone like me who has been to 9 cities in Russia, traveled around there for 6 months, met hundreds of people and had lots of experiences, or the average egocentric American who never goes abroad, and gets all his/her knowledge about Russia from the egocentric US media, getting the impression that people there are desperate to leave?

Here's a lesson in reality for some of you folks. No one thing explains everything in life. Not money, sex, attitude, pain/pleasure, love, or religion. Such concepts like "It's all about money", "It's all about sex", "It's all about attitude", "It's all about pleasure/pain", "It's all about love", or "It's all about God or Jesus" etc. are mantras for their believers who like to believe that everything in life can be explained by it. But in reality, they are simply ways for closed minded people who don't like to think, to put the world into one little box that they can understand. I could easily prove such statements false with an infinite number of examples to the point where the believer of them runs away or gives up. (And I have plenty of times too!) Therefore, try to resist the urge to label or pin down the motivations of all Russian women.

The reasons I elaborated on obviously prove that this ignorant myth about desperate Russian women is wrong. I have been acquainted with many Russian women, and I can tell you that the majority of them do not act desperate or project those kind of vibes. They are simply sweeter, more modest, unspoiled, friendly, unparanoid, etc. and they do not have the self-righteous and arrogant tone that many American women (and sometimes men) have on the phone with me, which I notice when I call them. In fact, you can notice the difference on the phone alone. When you call a typical young American girl, they give you an arrogant spoiled tone and attitude, and you feel like you are an intruder who has to convince her that you're worth her time, or else the conversation gets cut short. They give you an attitude that says "You'd better prove yourself to me or else I've got better things to do." And sometimes you feel like you are being manipulated, toyed, or confused by their mind games too. With Russian women on the other hand, they often have a childlike sincere joy at hearing your voice when you call them, like a child opening a Christmas present, which makes you feel very welcomed. You don't feel like you have to convince them or prove yourself to them. Furthermore, it is much easier to hold a conversation with them because they are naturally curious and intellectual, and find even simple things you talk about to be interesting. You just feel so much more appreciated when you call them, and it lifts your spirits afterward. The tremendous difference in these little things says A LOT, in my opinion.

WWu777
13th March 2004, 06:57 AM
Life in Russia vs. USA

What every American man should know

By Winston Wu
(WWu777@aol.com)

Table of Contents
Introduction
Highlights of general differences
Friendships, bonds, and social attitudes
Threat of identity crisis
Lack of intellectual curiosity in America
Inverse of social atmosphere and paid friendliness
The general attitude of women
Meeting and dating women
Russian women having a combination of the best qualities
Surplus vs. shortage of attractive mentally healthy single women
The personal psychological issues involved
The social status factor for me
Being a celebrity vs. a ghost
My response to Americans with a victim-blaming mentality
Confidence level and mental health
High strung egos vs. carefree playful attitude
Dispelling the myth that Russian women are desperate
Concrete visual proof of my claims
What I hope to accomplish with this
A few final things and helpful links

Introduction

Dear Reader,

If you think that this is another typical clicheish media story of an immigrant who fleed oppression and poverty in a foreign country to find freedom and opportunity in America, think again. You may be shocked (or delighted) to find that it's quite the opposite. In fact, it's about an Asian American who fleed oppression and societal desolation to find freedom and fulfillment in a foreign country. There are many stories such as mine, but your propaganda-driven, corporate/feminist-controlled media won't allow you to know about any of it. Instead, they prefer you to be a good slave to your job, bills, mortgage payments, debt, car insurance, health insurance, and American women, all under the guise of living for the American dream.

BIG SECRET: One of the big secrets our media NEVER tells you is that in almost every other country in the world, bills, mortgage payments, debt, car insurance, health insurance, etc. are NOT an issue that people stress about to the point of insanity. They either don't exist in other countries, or they are simplified to the point of them not being a major stress factor in your life! But do you ever hear our media tell you this? Nooooo! Why would they? It would not be in corporate America's interest to have their citizens know about something like that! In fact, for this reason, many immigrants in America regret coming here. But does the media tell you about these people's feelings and the causes for them? Nooooo! They need to help keep a large industrial slave labor force for the interests of those at the top. (Read any book by Michael Moore to get an idea of how things really work in this country!)

Now, onto my story. To counterbalance the media stereotype of Russia as a cold, snowy, bleak place with freezing hungry people, I am writing this point by point essay I wrote below. It is based on my observations and experiences of my 6 months experience in Russia. I also have a link below that takes you to some online slide shows I created containing over 800+ photos which back up my claims, and show you a good glimpse of what I'm talking about. These photos, along with my 12 hours of video tape, and vast personal experiences and adventures there, show you the REAL Russia that the US media never shows you. (For some reason, our media likes to portray all foreign countries as oppressed and impoverished, perhaps to instill a sense of pride and motivation for our slave labor force.) The Russia my material shows you is of an exciting country that is sunny and beautiful, with magnificent cultured architecture, and beautiful single women everywhere who are incredibly friendly and intellectual. It's no wonder so many Western and European men who go there soon remark to themselves "Where have I been all this time?!" As a result, many men are now making frequent trips to Russia or emigrating/ex-patriating themselves there (some after retirement even). This number has been steadily growing. However, this new phenomenon is not covered at all by the US media, which prefers to portray it all in a negative light instead for some odd reason (probably for its own agenda and political reasons). Therefore, the only way so far that people know about this phenomenon is through internet circles, word-of-mouth, or personal experience of course.

I wrote this essay for a local newspaper a while ago. Since then, I've expanded and revised it many times to include more deep observations about my childhood, society, social status, etc. It will explain to you in point by point vivid detail why I love Russia so much, and how it compares to life in America, putting it all in perspective. Thanks and enjoy.

Regards,
Winston

Highlights of general differences

First of all, in Russia, there is a rich deep culture and architecture that puts most places in the USA, especially suburbian America, to shame and emptiness. There are gorgeous museums and structures everywhere to stimulate your mind, intellect, and imagination. You are constantly stimulated by everything around you, so you barely notice the time passing and you feel intrigued by every moment. There, many of the pros and cons of living in America are reversed, making it so interesting that you learn something new everyday. (e.g. Customer service is terrible in Russia compared to America, but there people don't have the stress of health insurance, car insurance, mortgages payments, etc.)

But the best thing about Russia are the people, who are a total contrast to people in the states. For one thing, it is normal for young people to be intellectual and interested in things like art, history, literature, philosophy, and culture. (Embarrassingly enough, some of the young people I met there were surprised that I didn't know certain American authors that they had known and read!) Here though, and in most of America, that would be abnormal for young people, since most intellectuals are over 35. That is why young intellectuals in America tend to feel alienated, misunderstood and seen as uncool in our society. In Europe and Russia though, they are very normal and appreciated.

Also, people in Russia are generally more lively and free-spirited than one can imagine. (When you don't have to worry about mortgage payments, health insurance, car insurance, etc. it's a lot easier to be that way of course) They are incredibly open, friendly and naturally love meeting new people. People there have a totally different attitude toward strangers than people here do. In Russia, I never feel like I'm a stranger to someone. There are always people around me who want to meet me, no matter which city I'm in, and it feels fluid and natural, not like you have to make something happen. In fact, when arriving in a new city in Russia where I didn't know anyone, it would only take me a few hours to meet new people, collect several girls' phone numbers (and unlike most girls here, they follow through on appointments rather than flake out!) and I would already have plans that day or week. And I wouldn't even have to try to make those things happen either. They just happen naturally with the flow. Contrast that to places like my home town of Bellingham, WA where you can live for years and only have one or two regular friends!

In Russia, you never feel like you don't exist. And you don't have to belong to a an organized social event such as a club, church, or activity group to meet people like you would in the states. You can meet them anywhere, on the street, standing in line, at a bus stop, etc. And this applies even if you're a shy person too, because the fact that people are open and welcoming to strangers who approach them, GIVES shy people the confidence to do so. The process is very mutual. That's why you don't really have to "make" it happen. In the US though, people are defensive to strangers approaching them and so it's much harder since it feels inappropriate. Words can't really describe the kind of social vibe I'm talking about though. You'd have to be in that kind of environment and stay for a while to know what I am talking about.

Friendships, bonds, and social attitudes

In fact, here is the biggest difference between making friends in America vs. abroad. In the USA, to make friends you often feel that you have to prove your worth to others, especially among the young crowd, to gain their attention or interest. Outside of North America though, people tend to just like you just for you. You don't get the feeling that you have to prove your worth to them. Even in countries like Japan or Taiwan, where people are generally shy, introverted, and not very outgoing, people will still like you for you once they get to know you over time, and once they do, they treat you very well. People in those Asian countries may not be open to strangers, but at least you don't get the feeling that you have to prove your worth to them. That's the bottom line. I'm sure many can relate to what I'm saying. Therefore, outside of North America I find that it's a lot easier to be myself because I don't have to prove anything to people, whereas in the USA and Canada, I feel that I have to do something or project some kind of image to people to prove my worth. Let's face it. The reality is that in America, 99 percent of the people you meet are not going to just like you for you, or just because you're a nice person. Nor will they stick with you through thick and thin. Abroad though, the percentages are much much better. Also, friendships in the USA generally aren't as strong, enduring, and deep as friendships are abroad. This is well known all around the world. We Americans are just too independent and separatist for that. In fact, many in the USA have lived in their homes for 10 years without ever getting to know any of their neighbors! (Something which is unheard of in other countries!)

Threat of identity crisis

Also, in America you constantly feel that you have to "fit in" somewhere or in some group, especially if you're a youngster. If you don't or can't, you feel isolated and traumatized with an identity crisis. Nowhere is this more true than in the American public high school environment. In most other countries, "fitting in" is not an issue that youngsters have to deal with. That's why young immigrants who come to the states soon realize how complicated their life is compared to in their home country, and how their immigrant parents are unable to understand or relate to them (especially if they're from an Asian country). The result of all this can be the emotional baggage that carries on into adult life, including low self-esteem or other dysfunctional psychological problems.

Lack of intellectual curiosity in America

Also, another thing I've noticed is that in America, people aren't intellectually curious about you. If you're a foreigner in the USA, people don't really ask questions about you and your culture to try to get to know you or understand you. In fact, Americans in general do not seem to be fundamentally curious by nature for some reason (though Americans abroad are an exception). However, in every other country I've been to, lots of people you casually meet will be intellectually curious about you, asking questions about who you are, why you're here, or about your culture. This applies even in mundane situations such as buying something in a store, standing in line to make a purchase, waiting at a bus stop, asking directions, etc. and not necessarily in organized social gatherings. And it happens even in areas where people tend to be more socially shy and introverted, like in Asian countries. Therefore, in ordinary day to day life abroad, you consistently come across people who are intellectually curious about you.

As a result, friendships or even dating relationships abroad can form out of this. There are many people abroad who are glad to form a friendship with someone based on their curiosity or desire to understand someone different of another culture. Not so in the U.S. though, as Americans tend to prefer to form friendships with those who are like them, or who can raise their social status and image. That's a totally different social attitude indeed, since abroad differences can create friendships while in the US differences tend to divide people. And therefore, I sometimes feel paradoxical when foreigners are interested or curious about my culture, because people of my society don't have the same curiosity at all toward theirs. It makes me, paradoxically, want to tell these people that they ought to direct their curiosity elsewhere to where it's more appreciated and deserving.

In the USA, we have been spoiled by materialistic values and goals, and somehow in the midst of that, people in general have lost their intellectual curiosity. And that is more than obvious in people's social attitude toward others, which is pragmatic in general. In most parts of the USA and in most situations, people only talk to you if they need to, or if they know you. Otherwise, it's inappropriate to step outside of those boundaries. And you only get attention if you have looks, money, power, high status, or stardom. Otherwise, no one cares and you don't exist to them. And rather than being naturally curious about you, people have the attitude that you have to prove your worth to them. Therefore, in general it is much harder to meet people in the U.S. than abroad.

Inverse of social atmosphere and paid friendliness

Here is another observation on the tradeoffs between the U.S. and Russia. As much as America is above Russia in terms of economic status, in the same way, Russia is way above America in its social atmosphere, for sure. The social atmosphere there, as it is in South America, is much more lively, animated, uninhibited, and INCLUSIVE (that's the key word here). In Russia, you don't have to have hot looks, riches, or be a movie star to party and hang around attractive quality people. You just have to be yourself. And that's a huge difference indeed. Also, here's another tidbit for you. It's a weird quirk between Russians and Americans, which I didn't notice until a Russian person pointed it out to me. In Russia, people at work tend to be rude and cold to customers. But when they're off work, they become very sociable, open, and uninhibited. In America, it's the opposite. People at work are friendly and courteous to you when they are paid to be that way. But when they are off work, they become stuck up and don't want you to bother them. A very interesting inverse indeed.

(Note: If you want to test the latter, go to your local shopping mall in the U.S., and say, "Hi, how are you?" to people with a smile. Assuming you are average looking and not famous or in a Mickey Mouse costume, the only people who will greet you back are the retail workers who are PAID to be friendly to you. The rest will ignore you, give you a snotty look, or brush you aside.)

The general attitude of women

Now here's the part that will interest us single guys the most :) In Russia and many of the other countries of the former Soviet Union, women and girls are not only intellectual with diverse interests, but also more uninhibited and open (and I don't necessarily mean sexually either <though it can be that> just in general) What a combination! In fact, they are even more open than women in South America (a country known for its openness and carefree spirit) which I've been told by travelers who've been to both areas. That, I'm told, is what makes Russia unique and one-of-a-kind in that sense.

In Russia, many women who look like models will spend time with you if you just ask. And even if they say no, at least they don't look at you like you're not good enough for them or that it was rude or inappropriate of you for even trying. They don't have the Western female attitude that they're too good to waste their time on you. In a society with socialist values, people don't tend to think that way or put a value on themselves like that. In fact, even a shy timid person could meet people there and approach a gorgeous girl, because unlike here, girls there generally are not defensive, paranoid, or snobby when you try to meet them. This makes getting them into your social circle or getting into theirs effortless and natural. Thus, you don't feel intimidated by them and that gives you the confidence to approach them, even if you're a shy person. It just feels so much more natural and normal, whereas in the states, approaching a girl you don't know because she's attractive feels inappropriate.

If you look at my online photo journals, you can see some of the bombshells I met casually that way that I dated later. Some guys who saw it couldn't believe their eyes. There, when I approach a woman, she often looks at me with a curious and intrigued look. In contrast, in most parts of the states, when I approach a girl I want to meet, she looks at me with an expression that says "Unless you need directions somewhere, you shouldn't be talking to me." Now how's that for a big contrast?

Meeting and dating women

In fact, here is the main difference between meeting girls in Russia vs. America. In most parts of America, when you see attractive girls that you want to meet in a public place, it is a form of silent torture because you can't really do anything about it. If you go up and try to meet them, most of the time they will see that as inappropriate and see you as some kind of creep, resulting in a defensive posture and vibe. This of course, makes guys become more shy and erodes their confidence toward attractive women. In Russia, on the other hand, it's not like that at all. Very often, the attractive girls you see in public that you try to meet will often want to meet you too. And when they give you their number or agree to get together later, they usually follow through (rather than giving you their number and then screening out your calls like many American girls do). And even if they aren't interested in meeting you, at least they don't make you feel like you are doing something inappropriate, so you don't feel like you've lost anything or violated anything. And besides, there are enough girls there that do want to meet you to keep you motivated and confident enough to keep approaching and meeting them all the time anyway. Therefore, you don't feel the torture of seeing an attractive woman and not being able to do anything about it. Now guys, which attitude would you prefer from attractive women?

Russian women having a combination of the best qualities

In general, women in Russia are much more open, friendly, intellectual, and feminine than their western counterparts. Their personality, dress style, interests, and aura reflect that. With a typical Russian woman, you get the best qualities of East and West. They have an outer physical beauty comparable to attractive thin American women without the feminism or spoiled attitude. They have the discipline, values and domestic skills of the typical women in Asia, but without their rigid mentality, singularity in thought, and extreme introversion. And finally, they have the intellectual side of the typical European women, but are even more friendly and open than they are. You can't ask for a better combination of qualities. And in addition, most Russian women have the same maturity level of American women ten years older than them. This means with a Russian woman, you get the mind of an older woman in a young woman's body! These reasons are why many Western guys who experience women in Russia usually exclaim "Where have I been all this time?!"

Surplus vs. shortage of attractive mentally healthy single women

Another factor at work here that helps us men, is that in Russia there is a big surplus of attractive mentally healthy single women, rather than a shortage like in the US. As we men all know, in the US there is a surplus of nice good single men and a shortage of nice attractive mentally healthy single women. As a result, even the less attractive women in the US can afford to become pickier, and single American men can easily have trouble finding any available decent women. Just go to a bar or nightclub in the US and you'll see that the men far outnumber the women. And even the unattractive women in those places seem like princesses to the big surplus of disgruntled unhappy chumps there. It's a really pathetic scene for the nice guy. On the other hand, in Russia and some other countries, there is a big surplus of attractive, friendly, mentally healthy single women with good values. And there's a shortage of nice, non-alcoholic single men there with decent money and values. That's why the conditions there greatly favor the American man. And another reason why many attractive single women in Russia are so friendly to me.

The personal psychological issues involved

Now, on a personal psychological level, here's what at stake for me. In Russia, I have the freedom to be what I want to be, in a land where my dreams come true. I have the popularity I never had in high school (where I was constantly persecuted and alienated at my school in suburbian California) and college. And I'm acquainted with hundreds of people in 9 cities there in different ways. There, I walk around with confidence, knowing that I'm attractive and interesting to people around me rather than without an identity or existence like I do back home in the states. And best of all, I can date girls out of my league, since I have higher social status there. Therefore, I don't get lonely or bored like in the states.

It's a special place that I have discovered myself in, much the same way some people discover themselves in Europe. You see, the reason I'm so passionate about all this, is because Russia isn't just a country to me. It's more like a religion, because I was sort of reborn there and in that part of the world. It changed my life, self-esteem, and view of the world. And I got the love and acceptance from people that I never had in America, especially in high school. In a way, Russia is like a big playground to me. It's fun, people are way cool, and I can do what I want. Growing up, it was a constant uphill struggle for me to try to be accepted and on equal terms with white people in America. Then, in Russia suddenly whoala! I get poetic justice, and automatically given higher social status by the white people there. (Much like the high status whites are given in Asian countries) That's so neat in a way that only others in my situation could understand. And that's what I love about it.

You know, for most of my life, I've felt like an outcast in American society. It wasn't because I was a hard person to get along with though. On the contrary, most people who have met me will tell you that I'm an easy-going pleasant guy. The reason, in large part I think, is because my image of myself has always been very different from other people's image of me. For example, in public high school, I was seen as a nerd and placed in that category in people's minds. However, I had nothing in common with people in that group. I wasn't into math, science, or computers, and I didn't really care about my grades or appreciate the nerds' geeky style of humor. Therefore, I just didn't connect with them. I think that I was an intellectual type, but in American public high school, there wasn't really a group for that. Back then, people couldn't tell the difference between a nerd and an intellectual. In actuality, a nerd is into math, science, and computers, while an intellectual is into art, philosophy, history, politics, spirituality, religion, sociology, etc. and constantly asking questions and searching for meaning and information. Therefore, they are very different indeed. Unfortunately, none of the other groups and cliques in high school would accept me or see me as one of them. So I didn't belong anywhere. Hence, I had an identity crisis which resulted in emotional baggage being carried over to my adult life. Even today, this large discrepancy is still at work. I see myself as cool, attractive, and intelligent. However, I am not considered attractive or date-able by most American females because I don't fit the cultural media image of the "alpha male" (a term describing a dominant active visible male who presents a challenge to women), a problem many Asian men have (which the media has largely ignored, partly because Asian men tend not to be vocal about it or draw attention to it).

The social status factor for me

Let me put the social status factor in perspective. You see, in the US, my social status is almost nothing. I've always had an extremely hard time making good friends, getting invited to parties, and getting dates with women. This was true no matter how outgoing I was or how good my "attitude" was (that's for those in America with a victim-blaming mentality). On the other hand, in Russia I am given high status socially, so those things come easily to me. In a sense, I kind of feel like "James Bond" there (not to compare myself to such a character, but it's the feeling I have). Now that I'm out of Russia and reduced to nothing again, I often feel depressed and experience withdrawal symptoms, since I've already become accustomed to having a high social status. I long to get my high status back again. I hope you understand. After all, would you rather be a nobody and nothing to people, or be treated like James Bond? Would you rather have a life filled with boredom, loneliness, and isolation, or a life filled with excitement, drama, and beautiful women? The choice is obvious. It's very easy go to from bottom to top, but not the other way around.

You see, America has given me zero social status, so that making friends and getting dates is way too hard and unnatural. And everything I try to do to change this seems futile. When you have zero social status in America, people just don't invite you out to places and parties, especially cool people. On the other hand, those things come easy to me in Russia, because of my high social status there. I am seen as attractive and exotic there. And I am also a symbol of wealth and power, much like tall white men are in Asia. Even though I'm not rich at all, people there "think" I am, and so they treat me like it. Eventually, I start to believe it myself as well. (Needless to say, it's no willful deception on my part either, because no matter how many times I tell people there that I'm not rich, they still won't believe me for some reason!) Therefore, in Russia I get all the things that I wanted in America that I couldn't get. It's as simple as that.

Being a celebrity vs. a ghost

Here's another way to look at it. The movie star Gwyneth Paltrow once said in a TV interview that the best thing about being a star is that for the first time in your life, other people see you the way you see yourself. Well that's kind of how it is for me too in regards to Russia because for the first time in my life, others see my social status the way I see it. No longer is there the huge discrepancy between my self-image and others, causing the huge psychological rift that has plagued me all my life.

To put it into simple terms, in Russia I have the lifestyle that an attractive person has (which is what I've always wanted and strived for) whereas in the states, I have the lifestyle that an ugly person has (even though I don't consider myself ugly). It's very very hard to go from being accustomed to an attractive person's lifestyle to an unattractive person's lifestyle. Seriously. In Russia, I have the life of a celebrity or movie star, but back in the states, I have the life of a ghost who just doesn't exist to people, and that's just not the kind of life I thrive on.

My response to Americans with a victim-blaming mentality

Any realist who isn't hung up on being politically correct knows and understands that people do treat you VERY differently depending on your looks, image and appearance, hence your looks do create your lifestyle, whether you want to deny it or not. This is true regardless of your attitude, which brings up my next point. To all you politically correct people, idealists, and New Agers out there who think that people are treated based on their attitude, let me tell you this. You are dead WRONG, whether you want to believe it or not. I have meticulously counted a vast array of my life experiences, and found no real empirical correlation between how someone has treated or viewed me, and my attitude about myself. In fact, many times the correlation was inversed! This "attitude" thing is just an excuse fad that a fringe group of Americans religiously cling to, even in the face of empirical evidence against it.

Now, unfortunately, there are some Americans out there who have this victim-blaming mentality that assumes that anyone who is a misfit or whiner is automatically at fault and to blame for their problems. If they're reading this, their instincts are probably leading them to accuse me of being the fault and blame for my problems in America too. Well I'd like to try to enlighten those kinds of people with the following analogy. Some things don't mix well. For example, milk and ketchup put in a glass cup is a bad mix. But that doesn't mean there is something wrong or at fault with the milk or ketchup. For if you put ketchup with french fries and milk with cereal, they mix much better. Some things just don't mix well together, but they do when mixed with other things. That's life. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with taking two things that didn't mix well and mixing them with other things that complement better. It's as simple as that. So there is no need here to be pointing fingers at victims or whiners.

Confidence level and mental health

In Russia, my confidence level is so high that I am not afraid to approach anyone. I just don't have a fear of rejection there because so many people there like me that it doesn't matter and I don't care. I can even approach a model there without any fear. That's a level and kind of confidence that I could never have in America, which is why Russia is so much better for your mental health and ego than America is. The confidence I have there is primarily due to two things, 1) my high social status and novelty appeal there, and 2) a free-spirited uninhibited playfulness that the Russian people have, which is hard to describe to an American because it is something you'd have to experience by living in Russia to know what I mean. This is why it is so disheartening to come back to America and be stripped of that level of confidence and social status that I have there. Can you imagine that?

High strung egos vs. carefree playful attitude

And in regards to number 2 above, it also means that people in Russia are also not so easily offended like in America. We all know here in the states that people are easy to offend and rub the wrong way, so we constantly have to be tactful, diplomatic and politically correct. And at times, it can be like walking on egg shells. For some reason, in the US we seem to have high strung fragile egos which make us take everything personally. Not so in Russia though. There, people have a much thicker psychological shell and a very carefree playful attitude (except when they're at work as mentioned earlier lol). They aren't even very cautious there compared to us (almost no one there wears seat belts in cars, for instance). As a result, it's hard to offend or violate them even if you try to. Therefore, the boundary levels there are different than here, which is nice because it means you can say what you want there without having to be ultra-careful about it. This includes flirting with female strangers, blowing kisses at them randomly, saying "I love you's" etc. Oftentimes, rather than feel violated, they will become amused instead. On the flip side though, this also means that if you raise your temper and voice at customer service people there for their bad service and incompetence, it also doesn't really affect them either, even if you start swearing at them. (As a consequence, losing your temper at a Russian who doesn't react to your anger with any emotion can make you feel like a bratty child. lol)

Dispelling the myth that Russian women are desperate

By the way, I know that many people reading this are thinking that Russian women are friendlier to me because they are desperate to leave their country. Not at all. That is a false and naive myth perpetuated by our media and egocentric views. Only people who haven't traveled out of America much think like that. Those who have lived extensively in other countries and been intimately acquainted with them know that most foreigners are not trying to leave their country or come to America, and that our country is not as idolized as Americans and their media think. If you want, email me for articles, including my own, that show you that less than one percent of Russian women want to leave their country. And even with those that do, most of them prefer Europe rather than America, because of its similar culture and convenient proximity to go back and forth from.

From what I've learned, the reasons why Russian women treat me better and give me much more attention are: 1) Some perceive me as rich and wealthy by their standards (even if I tell them that I'm not). 2) Those that don't care about money still see me as an exotic and interesting novelty, or as a chance to practice their English with. 3) Like I said earlier, there is a big surplus of attractive single women in Russia, and a shortage of good men who can treat a women right (which is inverse to the US). Therefore, a lot of nice single women who have trouble finding a good available man see me as a rare available find. 4) Finally, as mentioned above, Russian women themselves (and men too) are NATURALLY friendlier and more open anyway, so it isn't all about me. They are definitely naturally curious, communicative, intellectual, and exploratory. There is a free-spirited uninhibited playfulness about them which you would have to experience to know what I mean. These are common traits I've noticed in a very high proportion of Russian women I've met. Some Russian women are friendly to me due to one of these factors, other are due to a combination of them. But as you can see above, none of the reasons involve them being desperate to leave their country.

And if you still doubt this, then ask yourself this. Who is more qualified to comment on whether Russian women are desperate to leave their country, someone like me who has been to 9 cities in Russia, traveled around there for 6 months, met hundreds of people and had lots of experiences, or the average egocentric American who never goes abroad, and gets all his/her knowledge about Russia from the egocentric US media, getting the impression that people there are desperate to leave?

Concrete visual proof of my claims

Anyone who views my two online photo journals of my trips to Russia will be able to get a good glimpse of the things I'm talking about. They contain over 800 of photos and video stills, together with captions, spanning across 9 Russian cities during two extensive trips. The links to them can be found at this site below. By the way, do not mind the vulgar politically incorrect name of the site it takes you to. It belongs to another person who was kind enough to host my material on a section of his site.

http://hometown.aol.com/wwu777/myhomepage/travel.html

There, you can also download my extensive journals of both trips, which read like a reality TV program. In addition, I also have 14 hours of video footage from both trips, which I could make copies of for a small fee. Anyone who views what I have been through there can see how coming back here would seem so empty in comparison, because it has none of the things that stimulate you there. Especially take a look at the photos of St. Petersburg and imagine coming from there to a cultureless place like suburbian America!

By now, you're probably wondering why I don't just move there. Well I do plan to someday, at least for a while. In fact, I think about returning everyday. The withdrawal symptoms persist. I long to have the life of "James Bond" back, and the lifestyle of an attractive person again. You can't blame me :)

What I hope to accomplish with this

I hope that my story helps accomplish two things. 1) To inform other Western men like me who are disgruntled with the dating scene and choices in the West, that there is a much better option available to them out there, which our media attempts to suppress and ridicule. 2) Also, I wish to help debunk the US media / government propaganda that Russia is a cold, snowy, bleak place where people are depressed and starving, whereas in fact much of it is warm, sunny and beautiful, filled with magnificent architecture, culture, and beautiful women who are incredibly friendly and intellectual. That way, Russia can be known for what it really is, which is far different from what most Americans think. The secret is out, and I'm proud to share it. Thanks for listening.

Best Regards,
Winston

A few final things and helpful links

If anyone has any comments or questions for me, you can email me at WWu777@aol.com. But if you're just going to flame me, I would rather not hear from you. Please understand that I don't make things the way they are. I merely describe them. And keep in mind that I have known no one who has spent considerable time in Russia, who doesn't at least agree with most of what I say.

But if you're still of the mentality that most Russian women are desperate to leave their country, I also have another article I've written which completely debunks that myth. But it's too big to fit in here, so be sure to email me for a copy of it, if you want to know the truth about that issue that is. Or you can check out these links below to articles which address that issue as well.

http://www.womenrussia.com/mail_order_brides/
http://www.womenrussia.com/russianwomen/escape.htm

And in case you have any other myths in your mind about Russian women that are perpetuated by the media and feminists, I suggest you read the truth about them at this link, which I highly recommend to get people educated in how things actually are.

http://www.womenrussia.com/myths.htm

Also, if you are interested in Russia in general, you may check out my travel tips article or dating Russian women article at the links below.

http://www.womenrussia.com/travel_tips/index.htm
http://www.womenrussia.com/travel_tips/dating.htm

I have also written a comprehensive how-to guide for traveling and dating in Russia, which includes a list of other helpful links which are too extensive to include here. If you would like a copy of it, you may email me for it at WWu777@aol.com.

If you'd like to read an inspiring story similar to mine, but in regards to the Philippines and also much shorter as well, you can do so at this link below. Asia and the Philippines are another great option for those disgruntled with dating in America to consider.

http://www.americanwomensuck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247

In addition, if you are interested in pursuing women in Asia in general, here is a great comparison analysis of the pros and cons of each country in Asia, written by an experienced traveler.

http://www.americanwomensuck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=286

Finally, besides Russia, other countries where I hear the women are friendly, open, and approachable as well are Ukraine, Philippines (Cebu island in particular), Cuba, Mexico, parts of South America, Africa, and China. They are other countries to consider as well.

Pyrrho
13th March 2004, 06:59 AM
Winston, you have already posted these articles in the Community Forum. Continued posting of these articles in another Forum will be considered to be "spamming", as listed in the Forum Rules.

WWu777
13th March 2004, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by Pyrrho
Winston, you have already posted these articles in the Community Forum. Continued posting of these articles in another Forum will be considered to be "spamming", as listed in the Forum Rules.

W: But you removed them from the other folder, so they are unique here now. Isn't that obvious to you?

My own essay above is not a copyright violation by the way.

Pyrrho
13th March 2004, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by WWu777
W: But you removed them from the other folder, so they are unique here now. Isn't that obvious to you?

My own essay above is not a copyright violation by the way.
I have not removed your threads from the Community Forum. Please abide by Forum rules.

Clancie
13th March 2004, 08:19 AM
Winston,

If you think what you posted in "Community" has any value at all, I won't bother reading your Paranormal articles.

Seriously. Talk about perpetuating idiotic stereotypes. :rolleyes: You and the original author obviously don't know anything about "Asia" (dating or otherwise) at all.

NoZed Avenger
13th March 2004, 12:36 PM
Winston:

you apparently missed the last few times I asked about a prior message from Melissa Ardenwilde, repeated by you on the forum.

In her message, she seems to blatantly defame the character of John Benneth -- I was hoping you could comment on the rather serious charges she levels against him:

She, through you, said "Sources close to Benneth speculate that Randi secretly paid Benneth the million dollars he was offering for proof, and that Benneth in turn invested it in the world's only two publicly held manufacturers of homeopathic products, Boiron and Dolisos, knowing full well that the homeopathic industry would skyrocket when it was discovered Randi had failed to debunk him."

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/show...=wwu777+benneth



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As Benneth went onto usenet and continually claimed that there was no million, and that he had "confirmed" that fact with Goldman-Sachs, Melissa seems to be calling Benneth a complete liar -- here he was profiting off a back room deal for a million (plus!), yet claiming no million exists to the rest of the paranormal community.

And then he agrees to have homeopathy take a dive in the Horizon test. Man, Benneth must be some dishonest, lying, fraudulent scum to do all that for his own profit, if you believe the "unnamed sources."

So, Winston, speaking as someone who chamioned Benneth for years -- do you believe that Benneth is a complete liar who has hidden his private profiteering and allowed the TRUTH about homeopathy to be hidden?
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N/A

You can also find this question here:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36950&highlight=benneth

Thanks in advance for your response. I am posting the question here as you are apparently reading this thread, but not any of the others about Benneth where I have asked you about this. I feel that the question is warranted, as these attacks against Mr. Benneth's character seem to be very serious allegations.

WWu777
19th March 2004, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by NoZed Avenger
Winston:

you apparently missed the last few times I asked about a prior message from Melissa Ardenwilde, repeated by you on the forum.

In her message, she seems to blatantly defame the character of John Benneth -- I was hoping you could comment on the rather serious charges she levels against him:

She, through you, said "Sources close to Benneth speculate that Randi secretly paid Benneth the million dollars he was offering for proof, and that Benneth in turn invested it in the world's only two publicly held manufacturers of homeopathic products, Boiron and Dolisos, knowing full well that the homeopathic industry would skyrocket when it was discovered Randi had failed to debunk him."

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/show...=wwu777+benneth



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As Benneth went onto usenet and continually claimed that there was no million, and that he had "confirmed" that fact with Goldman-Sachs, Melissa seems to be calling Benneth a complete liar -- here he was profiting off a back room deal for a million (plus!), yet claiming no million exists to the rest of the paranormal community.

And then he agrees to have homeopathy take a dive in the Horizon test. Man, Benneth must be some dishonest, lying, fraudulent scum to do all that for his own profit, if you believe the "unnamed sources."

So, Winston, speaking as someone who chamioned Benneth for years -- do you believe that Benneth is a complete liar who has hidden his private profiteering and allowed the TRUTH about homeopathy to be hidden?
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N/A

You can also find this question here:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36950&highlight=benneth

Thanks in advance for your response. I am posting the question here as you are apparently reading this thread, but not any of the others about Benneth where I have asked you about this. I feel that the question is warranted, as these attacks against Mr. Benneth's character seem to be very serious allegations.

W: Hmmmm to be honest, I don't know. A friend of mine said the writing of this "Melissa" seemed like John's so it's possible that John could have forged that letter, creating a new email address to send it from. I heard that he once forged AP reports long ago. Didn't he?

I am not a defender of Benneth. I just wanted to give him a voice on this list, and let you guys know about his existence. LOL

Does that clear things up?

Why don't you email him yourself and ask him?

Winston

NoZed Avenger
19th March 2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by WWu777


W: Hmmmm to be honest, I don't know. A friend of mine said the writing of this "Melissa" seemed like John's so it's possible that John could have forged that letter, creating a new email address to send it from. I heard that he once forged AP reports long ago. Didn't he?

First, thank you for your response.

So he may have forged an email where he (pretending to be someone else) accuses himself of lying, cheating, and profiting off dishonesty?

So it appears that he is either:

(1) extremely dishonest, or
(2) extremely dumb, or
(3) both at the same time.


I am not a defender of Benneth. I just wanted to give him a voice on this list, and let you guys know about his existence. LOL

Does that clear things up?

Not really. You publish an email from someone that you apparently don't know making unverified claims about someone that you don't intend to defend . . . . That seems to raise more questions than it answers, but that's ok -- I'll let it go.


Why don't you email him yourself and ask him?


Well, as Benneth harassed -- via email -- practically everyone involved in the Homeopathy testing discussion, I think I'll avoid giving him my email address. Besides, I have no real reason to think that he'd tell the truth.


I am aware of what Benneth did to everyone that he had the email address of back when he

(1) I have no reason to think he'd tell the truth

Checkmite
20th March 2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by WWu777

I have hundreds of girls in Russia.

That's nice that you "have" hundreds of girls in a foreign country. I'm sure you must be very proud of yourself. I wonder if they all know each other's names.