So you're about 19, or 20 hours old and...

[Skeptical Greg]

laying in a pediatric ICU, tubes inserted in every orifice and a couple that you didn't
even come in with. They don't even pay that much attention anymore; they're just
waiting for permission to turn of the respirator.
so is that it for you ? Those 19, 20 hours are the limit of your life?

What kind of jerk, supreme being, thinks this is funny?


Boy, 19 or twenty years, ending in whatever scenario you can think of, are sure looking
good right now...

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Diogenes

laying in a pediatric ICU, tubes inserted in every orifice and a couple that you didn't
even come in with. They don't even pay that much attention anymore; they're just
waiting for permission to turn of the respirator.
so is that it for you ? Those 19, 20 hours are the limit of your life?

What kind of jerk, supreme being, thinks this is funny?


Boy, 19 or twenty years, ending in whatever scenario you can think of, are sure looking
good right now... But, if the world we live in is only "temporal," why should we insist on a sense of permanence?

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Iacchus
But, if the world we live in is only "temporal," why should we insist on a sense of permanence?


But; if; why; sense.... Interesting list of words...;)

[Bikewer]

One of my main arguments with the "one-shot-lifetime" ideas involves this very question.

If, as most mainstream religions maintain, we are to be judged in some way for our activities in life, then shouldn't the life experience be a bit more equitable?

Christians invariably feel that in order to be "saved", that is, to merit some sort of eternal reward, people have to accept Jesus in some way. But millions of people have died in total ignorance of Jesus over the last two thousand years.
Millions of children have died before reaching the "age of reason" where they might be considered able to even grasp the concepts.

Even if one is so fortunate as to be exposed to Christianity in some way, it's hard to equate life experiences. Cosider the child born in a ghetto to a single, crack-addicted mother, surrounded by poverty, unemployment, and role models fromt he criminal underclass.
Would such a person have an equitable chance of living a "good" life compared to a child born to loving, well-intentioned parents who provide the best child-rearing, education, and life circumstances?

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Diogenes

But; if; why; sense.... Interesting list of words...;) What are you saying you would like me to go away, and would prefer "nonsense" over what I have to say? ;)

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Bikewer

One of my main arguments with the "one-shot-lifetime" ideas involves this very question.

If, as most mainstream religions maintain, we are to be judged in some way for our activities in life, then shouldn't the life experience be a bit more equitable?And yet if God knew us before we were born, which I assume is possible -- if He exists -- then we will have found what we're looking for. And what's so unethical about that?

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Iacchus
What are you saying you would like me to go away, and would prefer "nonsense" over what I have to say? ;)

There is a difference?;)





P.S.

Not sure what your response ( this one ) was about.. It sounds sort of defensive to me.. What are you being defensive about ?

[Chanileslie]

Originally posted by Iacchus
And yet if God knew us before we were born, which I assume is possible -- if He exists -- then we will have found what we're looking for. And what's so unethical about that?

Hmmm, that would be like my knowing my child and then my child lets me know they want me to kill him/her, do I do it? I mean, I knew my child, I knew what my child wanted. What's so unethical about that?

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Diogenes

Not sure what your response ( this one ) was about.. It sounds sort of defensive to me.. What are you being defensive about ? Hey that's entirely up to you. Would you like me to be defensive here? Or, am I to assume that nothing was meant by your reply?

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Chanileslie

Hmmm, that would be like my knowing my child and then my child lets me know they want me to kill him/her, do I do it? I mean, I knew my child, I knew what my child wanted. What's so unethical about that? So, would you say that it's not possible to base anything upon the "plausibility" that God does exist?

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Iacchus
So, would you say that it's not possible to base anything upon the "plausibility" that God does exist? I would say it is even less ' plausible ' than it is possible..

[Bikewer]

I agree; possibility is indisputable. If there was a god with the attributes we commonly ascribe to such a creature, it could hide from us for whatever reason it wanted.


But plausibility....Evidence seems lacking.

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Diogenes

I would say it is even less ' plausible ' than it is possible.. Of course you do realize that you're less likely to find it if you base everything upon the fact that it doesn't exist. As it tends to reduce the possibilities of those things you wouldn't even consider.

Ever hear that the truth is stranger than fiction? ;) How bizzare man ... How bizzare ...

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Iacchus
But, if the world we live in is only "temporal," why should we insist on a sense of permanence?

Yes, agreed. We will all die anyway, so there's no point in trying to prolong life.



I'm feeling inspired.


There is no hope but death.
There is no joy but pain.
There is no end but lack of breath
And drowning in the rain.

It doesn't matter what you do,
You'll always end up dead.
It doesn't matter how you go,
In peace or hail of lead.

Cause life itself is temporary,
It always goes away.
Thanatos will get you, he never goes astray.

*insert monkey sounds*

He's got the whole wide world, in his hands!
And he hates you too.



Thank you, thank you.

Don't ever inspire me again.

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by neutrino_cannon

Yes, agreed. We will all die anyway, so there's no point in trying to prolong life. Would that be the same as prolonging a good erection? :D

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Iacchus
Would that be the same as prolonging a good erection? :D

Absinthe it is.

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by neutrino_cannon

Absinthe it is. Would that be anything like stroking your Abyssinian? :D Actually I don't what the hell you're talking about? ...

[Chanileslie]

Originally posted by Iacchus
So, would you say that it's not possible to base anything upon the "plausibility" that God does exist?

Ah, changing the subject are we? Fine - god is not a plausible.

[Chanileslie]

Originally posted by Iacchus
Would that be anything like stroking your Abyssinian? :D Actually I don't what the hell you're talking about? ...

Absinthe is supposedly a very powerful aphrodisiac liquer.

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Iacchus
Would that be anything like stroking your Abyssinian? :D Actually I don't what the hell you're talking about? ...


http://www.tica.org/breeds/abziggy.jpg

http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/mom/absinthe/thujone.jpeg


No, no they're not the same.

At least I hope not, or there is one very warped kitty in you general vicinity.

[Chanileslie]

Originally posted by Iacchus
Of course you do realize that you're less likely to find it if you base everything upon the fact that it doesn't exist. As it tends to reduce the possibilities of those things you wouldn't even consider.

Ever hear that the truth is stranger than fiction? ;) How bizzare man ... How bizzare ...

You are willing to believe anything if you are willing to believe one thing for which no evidence exists. Show me evidence and then I will consider the possibility of god until then it does not exist.

One must be sure that one's mind isn't so open that one's brains fall out.

[DarkMagician]

Originally posted by Iacchus
Of course you do realize that you're less likely to find it if you base everything upon the fact that it doesn't exist. As it tends to reduce the possibilities of those things you wouldn't even consider.

Ever hear that the truth is stranger than fiction? ;) How bizzare man ... How bizzare ... A million monkeys working on a million typewriters will eventually rewrite the entire works of Shakespeare. However, two monkeys f**king on a typewriter will rewrite Iacchus's posts before the male finishes.

[evildave]

Actually, any number of monkeys working for any amount of time will produce a lot of excrement stained and/or broken typewriters buried in bits of shredded paper.

Who wants to wade through monkey stained "output" fpr a period of time that makes geological time look snappy?

And who's to say even if they produce the expected output, they wouldn't eat it?

[Dancing David]

A child dies in a fierey helicopter crash on the way for a life saving operation.

Yeah, if the soul exists they sure got something out of that!

If there are souls they incarnate because they are forced to do so, there is no 'purpose' to incarnation.

Might as well say that a cancer has a soul and needs to be preseved, or that it incarnated so it could kill someone.

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Chanileslie

Ah, changing the subject are we? Fine - god is not a plausible. And yet God is very plausible if He exists.

[Iacchus]

Originally posted by Chanileslie

You are willing to believe anything if you are willing to believe one thing for which no evidence exists. Show me evidence and then I will consider the possibility of god until then it does not exist.

One must be sure that one's mind isn't so open that one's brains fall out. Of course you do realize that the ball is on your side of the court when you say these things ...


20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. ~ Luke 17:20-21 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?language=English&version=KJV&passage=Luke+17)Now what does this suggest to you about what evidence exists and where you can find it?