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RichardR
5th March 2003, 08:23 PM
I got my April 2003 issue of Discover magazine yesterday (and it’s only March 5th!). It has an interesting article entitled Memory’s Machine, on how neurobiologist Karel Svoboda has been watching live neurons interact in rats' brains.

Svoboda has put small “windows” in the skulls of live rats, over the area of their brains that process information from their whiskers. He observed spine-like objects growing from the neurons, establishing new synapses. Some of these withered after less than a day, but others lasted for months. Svoboda hypothesizes that these relate to memory and a learning process: where a connection is useful the connection stays; where it is not, it retracts. These connections were recorded by a camera, and some of these were reproduced in the magazine .

These findings support the work of another neurobiologist Wen-Biao Gan, who has monitored similar spines in the visual cortexes of mice, and found that 96% of these remain after one month. The conclusion is that the brain’s synaptic connections appear stable enough to store long term memories.

Of course, there’s a lot more to learn before we know how memory works, but it’s progress. And there is nothing so far that suggests memory is anything other than a brain function.

Someone on a thread over in Paranormal asked something like “please show me a picture of where memories are stored in the brain”. Well, “Discover” should be on the news stands now.

LucyR
5th March 2003, 08:45 PM
Another example of institutionalized cruelty.

In any case this is not a new theory. The idea of synapses being destroyed or allowed to die in response to unprofitable activity has been around for some years.

You can probably guess that I do not consider these type of experiments worthwhile, even if my objection is largely emotional in nature.

BillyJoe
6th March 2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by RichardR
Someone on a thread over in Paranormal asked something like “please show me a picture of where memories are stored in the brain”. Just show him a picture of a whole brain.
(Note: There is no memory centre in the brain, memories are stored over the whole brain)

fidiot
6th March 2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by RichardR
Svoboda has put small “windows” in the skulls of live rats, over the area of their brains that process information from their whiskers.

I'm sorry this is off topic, but this is funny. "Svoboda" means freedom in Russian. Read the sentence again.

RichardR
6th March 2003, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by LucyR
Another example of institutionalized cruelty.

In any case this is not a new theory. The idea of synapses being destroyed or allowed to die in response to unprofitable activity has been around for some years.

You can probably guess that I do not consider these type of experiments worthwhile, even if my objection is largely emotional in nature.
The experiment has enabled us to be more confident of the theory. Having said that, I have to admit I would not want to be the one performing these experiments on animals. Should they continue? I have mixed feelings, but I thought the results were relevant to discussions going on in other threads.

RichardR
6th March 2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by BillyJoe
Just show him a picture of a whole brain.
(Note: There is no memory centre in the brain, memories are stored over the whole brain) I know.

Apparently some people believe that memory is separate from the brain. But as more experiments are performed, there is still no reason, I can see, to believe this.