So you're about 19, or 20 and...

[Riddick]

laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

[Yahweh]

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his."
- Gen. George S. Patton

[Wrath of the Swarm]

"There's no Silicon Heaven? But where do all the calculators go?"

Thank you, Mr. Llewellyn, wherever you are.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by Wrath of the Swarm
"There's no Silicon Heaven? But where do all the calculators go?"

Thank you, Mr. Llewellyn, wherever you are.

smeeeeeeeee......smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....smeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeg.......heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[geni]

Well your in a foxhole and have probably tried to kill people so you had better chose a relgion that alows that. Looks like islam is the clear choice but there are a few less major one which should do the job just as well (paganism some of the old nordic relgions etc).

[DangerousBeliefs]

Not so cleverly disguised Pascal's Wager?

If threatened by sure death, everyone believes in God?

NUTS!

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by DangerousBeliefs
If threatened by sure death, everyone believes in God?
Therefore, god exists. There is obviously no other possible answer.

[Dancing David]

Nope , nothing after, life is for the living.

[rachaella]

Maybe if everyone thought that this was the one and only life we have there would be less 19-20 year olds in foxholes.

[Ian Perez]

Well, all I know is that before I'm sent off to war, I'm going to call everyone I know and tell them what I really think of them, buy every comic book I've always wanted , get beaten up within a foot of my life, and get laid (optional, really). That way I'll make sure that I have lived my 19 years to the fullest before I die, and won't care. Problem solved.

[Quixote]

Originally posted by DangerousBeliefs
Not so cleverly disguised Pascal's Wager?

If threatened by sure death, everyone believes in God?

NUTS!

And even if they did, which god? It would just my luck to pray to Wotan, then die and wake up to find Quetzlcuatl eating my heart or whatever he does to unbelievers.

[rachaella]

Originally posted by Quixote


And even if they did, which god? It would just my luck to pray to Wotan, then die and wake up to find Quetzlcuatl eating my heart or whatever he does to unbelievers.

Well if this is an economic proposal, as Pascal's really is, I'd have to do some studying to find out which god really gives the best deal. In some religions, I could become a god myself, I think I'd go for one of those.

[Scoobmaster]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

Short answer?........ready for this??

Yes.

There. Do you have a problem with that? Does it seem somehow unfair? Who told you life was fair? Does it trouble you to the point that you just cannot handle it (..."you can't handle the truth!...")

Perhaps now you will gain insight into why mankind created religions. They are useful tools for controlling masses of people and convincing them to kill each other for those in power. Perhaps people would be less willing to throw their lives away (and we would have less wars) if everyone believed "this is it!!??"

[Jas]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

Might make people think twice about waging war if they knew that there was nothing after.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

Correct. Nothing after. The same is true for 18,21,22, etc...

[Checkmite]

That's the best you guys can come up with?

Screw you all. I shall slay all I am able, and die with my rifle in my hand. Only thus can I meet my fate with honor, make my name legendary and sleek with glory, and spend eternity alongside Odin and all those great souls slain in battle - partaking of food, drink, women, and spectral battle in the sacred Halls of Valhalla!!!

FOR ODIN!!! FOR GLORY!!! WHO IS WITH ME???

[Kerberos]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi
That's the best you guys can come up with?

Screw you all. I shall slay all I am able, and die with my rifle in my hand. Only thus can I meet my fate with honor, make my name legendary and sleek with glory, and spend eternity alongside Odin and all those great souls slain in battle - partaking of food, drink, women, and spectral battle in the sacred Halls of Valhalla!!!

FOR ODIN!!! FOR GLORY!!! WHO IS WITH ME??? We're right behind you!!!*Sneaking away quitly.*

[Brian the Snail]

Aha...the old "there's no atheists in a foxhole" argument. Or at least a close variation.

Riddick- so if your soldier just happened to be Muslim or a Hindu, and the Bible is correct, wouldn't the soldier then have a eternity of pain and suffering to look forward to? Seems to me that no afterlife would be the best option, then, wouldn't it?

[Voob]

Maybe if everyone thought that this was the one and only life we have there would be less 19-20 year olds in foxholes.

Hear, hear! I'll drink to that!

but no....it wouldn't stop them from being sent there by 70-year-olds.

[Oleron]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

You mean there's more? Please tell me exactly what happens after I die. I know Christians believe in some kind of vague 'heaven/hell' idea but nobody was ever specific about it.
Here's your opportunity to set the record straight, Riddick.

[wraith]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

HAH
Who said anything about dying?

[Suezoled]

everyone has a lifetime. That span of time varies.

[Peter Jenkins]

Best bet - find a foxhole, next to a Christian, and ask him to lay down his life to save yours and remind him that it's an automatic shoehorn into heaven. You're doing him a favour, he's doing you a favour........everybody's happy.
P

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Peter Jenkins
Best bet - find a foxhole, next to a Christian, and ask him to lay down his life to save yours and remind him that it's an automatic shoehorn into heaven. You're doing him a favour, he's doing you a favour........everybody's happy.
P Not quite Peter. I think what Riddick is saying is that only those who believe they are going to a better place when they die should go to war. Athiests shouldn't be there in the first place.

[Scoobmaster]

Originally posted by Lothian
Not quite Peter. I think what Riddick is saying is that only those who believe they are going to a better place when they die should go to war. Athiests shouldn't be there in the first place.

Well golly I think you may have something there. I mean, come on now, how many of those Muslim LEADERS do you see ready to lead a suicide charge to glory and their virgins in the afterlife??!! Why are they not in a hurry to "martyr themselves with honor"??

[Ipecac]

Originally posted by Ian Perez
Well, all I know is that before I'm sent off to war, . . . get beaten up within a foot of my life, and get laid (optional, really).

Uh, I think I'd make the beating the optional one.

[rachaella]

Originally posted by Lothian
Not quite Peter. I think what Riddick is saying is that only those who believe they are going to a better place when they die should go to war. Athiests shouldn't be there in the first place.

That's fine with me.

[Jas]

Do suicide bombers think 'this is the end, there's nothing more?'

[Lothian]

I don’t think anyone can complain with Riddick's logic. Christians go to a better place and Atheists stay in the only place they are going.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

So you're 101 years old and living in an old folks home. One night you die quietly in your sleep. That's it? :p

[Chanileslie]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

If one dies, yep, that's it.

If one lives, well one has the rest of ones life. Live it well and with pleasure and happiness because this life is all one gets.

[Upchurch]

There was a time when 20 years was a decent life span for us humans.

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Probably not, unless you average in infant mortality figures, which throws everything off.

[Upchurch]

I was referring to prehistoric times. Actually, the number was probably more like 25-30, if I remember correctly.

[rustypouch]

Originally posted by geni
Well your in a foxhole and have probably tried to kill people so you had better chose a relgion that alows that. Looks like islam is the clear choice but there are a few less major one which should do the job just as well (paganism some of the old nordic relgions etc).

I think this calls for joining the God of the Month Club (http://community-2.webtv.net/magentashadow/GOMC/)

[Riddick]

Originally posted by Jas
Do suicide bombers think 'this is the end, there's nothing more?'
islamic suicide bombers think they're immediately going to heaven when they die. like the pilots of the aircraft into the WTC.

[wollery]

Originally posted by Riddick
quote:
Originally posted by Jas
Do suicide bombers think 'this is the end, there's nothing more?'
islamic suicide bombers think they're immediately going to heaven when they die. like the pilots of the aircraft into the WTC. Apparently they don't have sarcasm on planet Riddick! :D

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Originally posted by Upchurch
I was referring to prehistoric times. Actually, the number was probably more like 25-30, if I remember correctly. Again, probably not.

That's the problem with only looking at the mean without checking out the mode or median.

[LFTKBS]

Originally posted by Riddick

islamic suicide bombers think they're immediately going to heaven when they die. like the pilots of the aircraft into the WTC.

That's one question out of about 30 you've answered, Riddick.

Keep goin'.

[neutrino_cannon]

Dying at twenty is never good, most adults live longer than that.

Yes, there was a time when the average life span was shorter, but my understanding is that those numbers are skewed by the ridiculously high infant mortality rate at the time. If you made it past four, you're golden.

Actually, that's still true most of the world around.

Anyway, romans were living till sixty, and sometimes beyond. We never lived that long, and perhaps never will.



Returning to the question at hand,

laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

Bugger aint it?

There's a small, but significant, number of people who die because the structural integrity of the arteries in their brains goes. Could happen at any age. It's rare though.

Same goes for warfare. it wasn't until world war two that more people died on campaign as a result of injuries and weapons fire than from diease.

Anyway, point is most people don't die under tragic circumstances. Is it unfair? Of course. Is it common? Not really.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by LFTKBS
That's one question out of about 30 you've answered, Riddick.

Keep goin'.
You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Riddick

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not? In other words, is my survival instinct so strong that, when out of other options, will I try anything in the hope that I won't die? Maybe. I don't know. I've never been faced with that sort of decision.

Then, again, I might also try to will time to stop or believe that if I scream just loud enough, aliens will save me.

It certainly isn't a decision I would make when I was calm and rational. Like now, for example.

[DangerousBeliefs]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

Lots of athiests in the military... especially our allies.... I don't remember any reports of mass conversions during the Gulf War I or II.

If I had to answer, I would say as some others have that I would get to thinking about which God was going to pray to and eventually say "F it!" and start shooting back.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?
There a great deal of problems with Pascals Wager that need to be considered:

1. Beliefs are involuntary, they cannot be toggled on and off like a switch. (All that "people have a choice to believe in God" is nonsense, no such choice exists).

2. Pascal Wager is quite vague. The Christian God could exist, but the nature of this god is unknown. Who knows, maybe God LOVES the critically thinking atheist, they seem to be the only ones who take God's advice in Romans 1:20 when he instructed to understand God from his creation (and seeing as how God's creation is indistinguishable from a materialist atheists beliefs in the origins of everything, atheists are in the right for what they believe... Fundies on the otherhand, they believe a great many lies, they anger the Lord... poor fundies... of course, assuming God isnt an evil god who sends people to hell for things outside of their control, everyone goes to heaven, so woohee!).


To answer your question, I will not believe in God when those shells are flying in my direction.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

Yep. It may not be nice. It may be terribly unfair. But Them's the breaks as the saying goes

[Jas]

Originally posted by Riddick

islamic suicide bombers think they're immediately going to heaven when they die. like the pilots of the aircraft into the WTC.

I don't think that you understood my point, but you did a great job of proving it. Thanks.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Yahweh

There a great deal of problems with Pascals Wager that need to be considered:

1. Beliefs are involuntary, they cannot be toggled on and off like a switch. (All that "people have a choice to believe in God" is nonsense, no such choice exists).

2. Pascal Wager is quite vague...

In it's original context, Pascal's wager is more intelligent than in this fundified form.

Pascal starts by refuting classical Paganism, Judaism, and Islam, leaving only Christianity and "philosophy".

OK you can still pick holes in it.

[WildCat]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?
Are you claiming that your god is so petty and small that whether or not you believe in him is the sole or main criteria as to whether or not you get into heaven? Why should what you believe matter at all, especially given all the conflicting and vague info to go on?

Some more folks who believed in your god:
Adolf Hitler
Rev. Jim Jones

[Dancing David]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

WEll lets see, no brain , no thought , no worries. Dead and deader still. Nope, no need to belief in Santa Claus anymore.

[roger]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not? No.

[rachaella]

So you're a 19 or 20 year old Iraqi soldier, you've been a good person your entire life, you love your parents, you've worked for charitable organizations, and you're a muslim, you get killed. Is that the end Riddick? Will God send this good, kind man to hell?

[LFTKBS]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

Speaking as someone who has been literally inches and seconds from death (narrowly averted red-light running truck going about 60): no, I don't.

Basically I had to swerve left while braking and then hope that Mr. Run the Light would notice my car was, you know, in his way.

All I thought: "So, this is how the [my real name] story ends."

No Jesus involved.

P.S. He swerved; I lived.

[Suddenly]

Originally posted by LFTKBS


Speaking as someone who has been literally inches and seconds from death (narrowly averted red-light running truck going about 60): no, I don't.

Basically I had to swerve left while braking and then hope that Mr. Run the Light would notice my car was, you know, in his way.

All I thought: "So, this is how the [my real name] story ends."

No Jesus involved.

P.S. He swerved; I lived.

There is that too, isn't there?

I remember during a spectacular once end-over-end and 4 barrel roll crash at one point sliding upside down on my roof towards the south in the northbound lane of I-79. I figured I was about to catch a semi right in the kisser, so I had given myself up for dead at that point. Same mental process as you describe.

I managed to bank off the other guard rail (not go over it and off the cliff) and wind up in the median right side up after another half flip.

The first car to stop to help me was 2 off duty EMTs. The second was a neurosurgeon. I would like to say I survived without a scratch, but the glass from the windsheild did if fact scratch me a little on my leg (I was wearing shorts) and I had what felt to be a very mild concussion (had worse... thank you hockey).

Everyone kept telling me what a miracle it was that I survived. I thought it had more to do with the seat belt, the sound construction of my Saturn, and dumb luck. They cited the EMTs and neurosurgeon as additional proof of divine help. This made me wonder why God sent them to me when I didn't need them. Did he not have confidence that I would be unharmed or what?

Anyway, I've given myself up as dead before, and the kicker?

I wasn't an athiest before it happened. I am now.

[Flatworm]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

No. I believe in ducking and changing mags.

Is there a modern army that uses 7.62mm hollow point?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Suddenly
Anyway, I've given myself up as dead before, and the kicker?

I wasn't an athiest before it happened. I am now.

That is so inspirational! ;)

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by Upchurch
There was a time when 20 years was a decent life span for us humans.

/Start St Louis insider reference

Still is in Wellston!!! :)

/End St Louis insider reference

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're making it such a daunting task.

btw, in that foxhole you don't have time to contemplate pascals wager or anything else.

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

Why suddenly turn stupid in the last 3 seconds of your life?

[Ratman_tf]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

My personal belief is yes. There is nothing after.
I'd like to be proven wrong, but I'd also like to have a zillion dollars.

[Suddenly]

Originally posted by Ratman_tf


My personal belief is yes. There is nothing after.
I'd like to be proven wrong, but I'd also like to have a zillion dollars.

And a pony. Don't forget the pony.

[Kopji]

So 19 or 20 facing death.
What a tragic condemnation on our world
if we only had one lifetime to give
and make the best of it.
This short but precious time
Who would fight my wars?
Die for my cause?
knowing that there no reward after death?

So you children
By all means believe as long as you can.
But even a foxhole convert
an atheist praying at the last
cannot change the truth one tiny bit.

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by Flatworm


No. I believe in ducking and changing mags.

Is there a modern army that uses 7.62mm hollow point?

Ak-47 is 7.62 mm isn't it?

You're right though, the trend seems to be switching towards smaller bore weapons.

What was Eugene Stoner thinking?

I think US army sniper weapons are still 7.62 NATO (.308) calibur.

Cripes, this means you're fighting either the Taliban or US snipers!

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Kopji
So 19 or 20 facing death...

Eff this 'dying young' business. I'm too old to die young. I want to know what the next zillion years are like.

Dying at age 101 in a nursing home, is that it? :p

[Kopji]

My son came home the other day all excited about a lady he met in a nursing home his class visited. She was an ex-policewoman, had been shot, and told great stories. She was 92 but I could tell my son had no real concept of her age. She was perhaps, just an old child to him.

I hope it is so with me, telling stories to kids at age 92. That seems a well lived life. There is a saying that goes something like 'to die but not to perish is to be eternally present'. This lady will die, but she made an impression on my son, and in a sense she will live here. Her name is Edee.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Kopji
My son came home the other day all excited about a lady he met in a nursing home his class visited. She was an ex-policewoman, had been shot, and told great stories. She was 92 but I could tell my son had no real concept of her age. She was perhaps, just an old child to him.

I hope it is so with me, telling stories to kids at age 92. That seems a well lived life. There is a saying that goes something like 'to die but not to perish is to be eternally present'. This lady will die, but she made an impression on my son, and in a sense she will live here. Her name is Edee.

I'm really not so old, only 48. But I want to know how it all turns out. When I said zillions I was only half kidding.

In a general realistic way, I'd be satisfied with another fifty years, though I probably won't make it.

But getting metaphysical, I really mean zillions.

I want to know!

I'm the 19 year old in the foxhole, with enough more experience truly to appreciate the horror.

And yes I have been close to death.

[ca3799]

Well, I wasn't in a foxhole exactly, but I've had a very close call. I can say my thoughts never turned to god. In fact, it (god, religion, etc.) never crossed my mind at all.

Later, religious friends claimed their prayers interceded for me. I guess that makes them feel better- like the 'did' something- but the truth is, like Suddenly and LFTKBS, I was just lucky and in the right place at the right time for survival.

[Ipecac]

Originally posted by Suddenly
Everyone kept telling me what a miracle it was that I survived. I thought it had more to do with the seat belt, the sound construction of my Saturn, and dumb luck. They cited the EMTs and neurosurgeon as additional proof of divine help. This made me wonder why God sent them to me when I didn't need them. Did he not have confidence that I would be unharmed or what?

Anyway, I've given myself up as dead before, and the kicker?

I wasn't an athiest before it happened. I am now.

There was a story in the news earlier this week about a family who were in a car wreck and one of several children was thrown from the vehicle off an overpass or something. She fell 40+ feet and survived with a broken leg, shattered eyesocket and her spleen had to be removed. The family said they believe God's hand lowered her to the ground.

While I'm happy this little girl is alive, it's too bad God's hand wasn't strong enough to keep her from the severe injuries she did get.

People are stupid.

[Globert]

When I was 19 and holding a rifle for my country I was immortal. Athiest too!
And a high five for the Patton Quote! Hell on Wheels!:D

[Johnny Pneumatic]

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Originally posted by Riddick

You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?
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No. But I would shoot back. Better yet I wouldn't be in a stupid war in the first place. I could also pray to Neo and ask for the ability to dodge bullets.

[Nyarlathotep]

I'm going to have go with many of the posters who would not sudenly beelive in God. Simply put, if a 7.62 mm round was coming at me, I'd be do busy ducking or shooting back to ponder philosophical queations like the existence/non-existence of God.

[c4ts]

There's a good reason nobody really wants to go to war. I wonder what it is...

[Brian]

You'll never get this atheist into a foxhole in the first place.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
You've got 3 seconds until a 7.62mm hollow-point strikes your cranium, splattering it all over the bunker.

Now, do you believe in God and the hereafter or not?

Honestly? I'd be praying for all three seconds.

Unfortunately, I promised my Jewish friend that I'd see him on the Other Side, so I won't be praying to Your God.

What can I say? The guy's my best friend. If there's an afterlife, I want it to be with him, not with you.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi
That's the best you guys can come up with?

Screw you all. I shall slay all I am able, and die with my rifle in my hand. Only thus can I meet my fate with honor, make my name legendary and sleek with glory, and spend eternity alongside Odin and all those great souls slain in battle - partaking of food, drink, women, and spectral battle in the sacred Halls of Valhalla!!!

FOR ODIN!!! FOR GLORY!!! WHO IS WITH ME???

For Aiur! I mean Odin.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Honestly? I'd be praying for all three seconds.

Unfortunately, I promised my Jewish friend that I'd see him on the Other Side, so I won't be praying to Your God.

What can I say? The guy's my best friend. If there's an afterlife, I want it to be with him, not with you.

I have deleted this post because of a credible threat to another forum member. 16.45 gmt 03/19/04 Tim

[Jas]

Riddik's God = Gansta God

I certainly look forfward to rotting when I die, if that's the alternative.

[Badger]

Originally posted by Riddick

I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.

btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.

Have a nice F***ing day.

If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call? And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it. As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven. If I forget, remind me when we get there. I just want you to know that we have mutual feelings towards eachother. Lots of hate coming your way friend. And there'll be more. I been to prison a couple times. One was Assault on a Sheriff. I'll kick your @$$ to.

Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth. When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body.

Let me get this straight.....you're a Christian? The above could have probably benefitted from turning the other cheek.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by Badger
Let me get this straight.....you're a Christian? The above could have probably benefitted from turning the other cheek.
Turn the cheek once, get hit again, time to bring the smackdown.

[Badger]

Originally posted by Riddick

Turn the cheek once, get hit again, time to bring the smackdown.

I think you're missing the point of your religion.

[Brahe]

Originally posted by Riddick

Turn the cheek once, get hit again, time to bring the smackdown.
Please alert us when the smackdown is imminent.

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Riddick
btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.Interesting take.

As a Christian, I assume that you believe that the only path to salvation is through belief in Christ the Savior. Right? You do know that Jews don't believe that Christ was the Messiah, don't you? According to Christian docterine, no one who doesn't believe that Christ was the son of God will get into heaven, including Jews.

[Wrath of the Swarm]

To be fair, that's a tenet not held by many branches of Christianity.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Brian
You'll never get this atheist into a foxhole in the first place.

I'm sure you can come up with irrefutable logic for this statement, but I will counter it with some anecdotal evidence! :p

I had two atheist uncles who were sailors during World War Two. OK no foxholes at sea, but they were certainly in battles.

No, they weren't big time war heroes or anything.

Uncle #1 -- No safer in the engine room of a merchant vessel than firing the guns on a Navy ship in the same convoy when U-boats were around.

Uncle #2 -- Being on the bridge of a Navy ship delivering Marines was nowhere near as rough as being a Marine on the beach. Unless Kamikazis showed up.

They both survived, and both stayed life long atheists.

Or is an actual foxhole required? If so this will never be tested in modern times, because that's not how we fight these days. :D

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.


I never knew the guy - so I guess it's always sucked for me.


btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.


I suggest you learn something bout your religion. And perhaps something about Jews.



Have a nice F***ing day.


Now that's Christian Goodness. Yummy.


If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call?


Yahweh - the Jewish God. I said this once, why are you asking me again?


And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it. As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven. If I forget, remind me when we get there. I just want you to know that we have mutual feelings towards eachother. Lots of hate coming your way friend. And there'll be more. I been to prison a couple times. One was Assault on a Sheriff. I'll kick your @$$ to.


I didn't quite follow that, but -- did you just threaten to kick my ass in Heaven?

:D If so, you're funnier than people give you credit for.


Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth.


It's true. I've had a gun barrel in my mouth, and I can tell you what I'd say:

"Mrrmph mmm! MMMmm! Mrph!!!"

Or words to that effect.


When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body.

Again, I'm not quite following - it sounds like you're suggesting that you are going to kill me. You should realize that's a bannable offense, to say the very least.

[WildCat]

Originally posted by Riddick

I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.

btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.

Have a nice F***ing day.

If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call? And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it. As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven. If I forget, remind me when we get there. I just want you to know that we have mutual feelings towards eachother. Lots of hate coming your way friend. And there'll be more. I been to prison a couple times. One was Assault on a Sheriff. I'll kick your @$$ to.

Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth. When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body.
My My, aren't we testy today? Still pissed that the Cornholers didn't make the NCAA Tournament?

2 Chicago teams made it, BTW.

Loser.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by Upchurch
Interesting take.

As a Christian, I assume that you believe that the only path to salvation is through belief in Christ the Savior. Right? You do know that Jews don't believe that Christ was the Messiah, don't you? According to Christian docterine, no one who doesn't believe that Christ was the son of God will get into heaven, including Jews.
Yes, through Christ is the only way.

Yes, I know the Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah. They say the Messiah hasn't come yet. But he has.

The Jews are a blessed lineage by God. And they worship on the correct day, the Sabbath.

God has the final say on the Jews, just like he has with everyone else. So I guess everybody will find out in the end how they fared.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
[B]
The Jews are a blessed lineage by God. And they worship on the correct day, the Sabbath.


Yes, but since my Jewish friend is right and you are wrong, all my prayer will count for bupkus. My Jewish friend will transcend, but the Jewish faith tells me prayer alone isn't going to cut it for me. By waiting 'till the last minute, I'm garunteed to be screwed.

You won't be seeing me in heaven, even if you are right.

But I *promise* you, that having been faced with the possibility of death before, I know I'll be praying. It just isn't going to help anything -- even if it works, oddly enough.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Riddick

I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.

btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.

Have a nice F***ing day.

If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call? And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it.


Very funny, "Christian". If faced with that situation ...

http://thepaintr.com/x0016/cthulhu.jpg ... I'll call upon my roommate to devour your soul first.

Admittedly a long shot, but still a better bet than Jesus. :p

[WildCat]

Thanks for giving me my new sig line, Riddick!:D

[scribble]

Originally posted by WildCat
Thanks for giving me my new sig line, Riddick!:D

That's a real... uh... "Killer" sig.

I've got a strict personal philosophy of not reporting posts, ever. But what comes across to my - admittedly subjective - reading of Riddick's post is that he is promising to kill me.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Yes, but since my Jewish friend is right and you are wrong, all my prayer will count for bupkus. My Jewish friend will transcend, but the Jewish faith tells me prayer alone isn't going to cut it for me. By waiting 'till the last minute, I'm garunteed to be screwed.

You won't be seeing me in heaven, even if you are right.

But I *promise* you, that having been faced with the possibility of death before, I know I'll be praying. It just isn't going to help anything -- even if it works, oddly enough.
I don't think God has a limit on when you can join him.

Actually, my faith is very similar to the Jewish faith. I do however, believe in Jesus, being God who lived here on earth. That's a major difference.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
That's a real... uh... "Killer" sig.

I've got a strict personal philosophy of not reporting posts, ever. But what comes across to my - admittedly subjective - reading of Riddick's post is that he is promising to kill me.
You treat me like $hit, I treat you like $hit. That's how it works.

[WildCat]

Originally posted by scribble


That's a real... uh... "Killer" sig.

I've got a strict personal philosophy of not reporting posts, ever. But what comes across to my - admittedly subjective - reading of Riddick's post is that he is promising to kill me.
I don't think you interpreted incorrectly. He may just be the 3,873rd Christian serial killer...

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

You treat me like $hit, I treat you like $hit. That's how it works.

Wake-up call: I don't like you and I say so, you promise me I'll die at the end of you gun. BIG difference.

If I believed for half a second you weren't some arrogant prick of a pre-adolescent, I'd not only report you, I'd get your personal information from the moderators of the board and alert the authorities.

Fortunately for everyone involved, that's another belief I don't hold.

[rachaella]

Originally posted by WildCat

I don't think you interpreted incorrectly. He may just be the 3,873rd Christian serial killer...

Oh but they weren't real christians. I think killing people (generally) gets you kicked out of the club. There are notable exceptions though, of course.

[Badger]

Originally posted by scribble


Wake-up call: I don't like you and I say so, you promise me I'll die at the end of you gun. BIG difference.

If I believed for half a second you weren't some arrogant prick of a pre-adolescent, I'd not only report you, I'd get your personal information from the moderators of the board and alert the authorities.

Fortunately for everyone involved, that's another belief I don't hold.

It won't be you, and it won't be me, but someone's going to bring this to a moderators attention. That's why I posted that he probably should have turned the other cheek.

Now, I fear he's done. Although he may just get a warning.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Wake-up call: I don't like you and I say so, you promise me I'll die at the end of you gun. BIG difference.

If I believed for half a second you weren't some arrogant prick of a pre-adolescent, I'd not only report you, I'd get your personal information from the moderators of the board and alert the authorities.

Fortunately for everyone involved, that's another belief I don't hold.
Well whatever it was I said, it seems to be something that you want to perpetuate. Is there any particular reason you keep repeating what I said? Do you want me to grovel and beg at your knees? Well, do ya?

You don't like me, fine, I hate you. How you like 'dem apples?

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
You don't like me, fine, I hate you. How you like 'dem apples?

Now, that's just fine. In fact, I'm much happier with that. :D I wish you'd have just said that the first time.

edited to add:


Is there any particular reason you keep repeating what I said?


No, i just use the quote tag to make it clear exactly which part of a post I am responding to. I like to be as clear as possible in what I say.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Now, that's just fine. In fact, I'm much happier with that. :D I wish you'd have just said that the first time.
Stupid kid.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

Stupid kid.

In the interest of clarity, in what sense do you mean "kid?" I really don't think it fits me.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
In the interest of clarity, in what sense do you mean "kid?" I really don't think it fits me.
I think you're about 21yrs. So how close am I?

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

I think you're about 21yrs. So how close am I?

You're off by almost a decade. I'll be 29 this year. How I wish I were a stupid kid again.

In the meantime, I'll settle for "stupid." I can't argue that I'm that. :D

[Kopji]

I think that the reasoning goes something like this:

God cannot abide ANY sin whatsoever, so murder is no different than working on the Sabbath. Coveting your neighbor's wife no better or worse than smiting an enemy in cold blood.

The 'Law' is perfect, and was created to make us aware of sin. Apart from complete righteousness, there is no way to be saved.

However, Christ was offered as a sacrifice, 'fulfilling the requirement of Law'. Faith in Christ counts as righteousness. (This like Abraham, whose faith was counted as righteousness). Not acts, not good deeds etc, only faith. Acts follow, and are fruits of 'true faith', but not a source of salvation or faith.

Although some might think this gives carte blanche' to kill or threaten to kill, such activity is actually a demonstration that the act of faith has not 'taken hold': No true Christian would truly murder, or threaten to (and no true Scotsman would bow to the English king!)

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by Kopji
I think that the reasoning goes something like this:

God cannot abide ANY sin whatsoever, so murder is no different than working on the Sabbath. Coveting your neighbor's wife no better or worse than smiting an enemy in cold blood.

There's nothing to support the murder=working on the sabbath degree of difficulty. There may very well be weights attached to them. Nobody knows.

Of course we know socially there are different weights attached to them.

[Wrath of the Swarm]

If you pay attention to him, he only gains power. Just put him on 'ignore', and soon enough the troll will go away.

[c4ts]

Alas poor Riddick, who seems to believe that the primary motivation to become Christian is fear. In this particular instance, it is the fear of death. Fear is something to be conquered by the individual from within, not by accepting a certain set of external beliefs. If you choose to let your religious beliefs conquer your fears for you, you will grow dependant upon these and defend them irrationally, even to the point of being manipulated. I'm sure those Taliban guys who flew their planes into the twin towers weren't the least bit afraid of death, assured by the belief that god would reward them in the hereafter.

[Brian]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


I'm sure you can come up with irrefutable logic for this statement, but I will counter it with some anecdotal evidence! :p

I had two atheist uncles who were sailors during World War Two. OK no foxholes at sea, but they were certainly in battles.

No, they weren't big time war heroes or anything.

Uncle #1 -- No safer in the engine room of a merchant vessel than firing the guns on a Navy ship in the same convoy when U-boats were around.

Uncle #2 -- Being on the bridge of a Navy ship delivering Marines was nowhere near as rough as being a Marine on the beach. Unless Kamikazis showed up.

They both survived, and both stayed life long atheists.

Or is an actual foxhole required? If so this will never be tested in modern times, because that's not how we fight these days. :D
I just mean that I'm an atheist. I think you only get one shot, good or bad. I won't serve, not in that capacity anyway. I'm not a pacifist. I'll fight back and all, but I will not be drafted. I was 20 or so during the first gulf war and I had every intention of dodging if I had to. But, my thanks to your uncles. You'll never find this atheist in a foxhole.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by c4ts
Alas poor Riddick...

I can't believe all you folks are taking this guy seriously. Or am I the irony-impaired one? :p :D

[Kopji]

There is no one righteous, not even one;
there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
...there is no one who does good,
not even one.
(From Psalm 14, quoted in Romans 3:11-12)


Christianity seems at least internally consistent this way: That both murder and working on the Sabbath are both evil. From God's infinitely wide perspective they are the same and merit the same reward (death).

(This explanation of righteous through faith may be unfamiliar, but is found in Romans 3).

(hanging out in religion is a sign of fatigue?) :D

[Some Friggin Guy]

Originally posted by Riddick
laying in a foxhole, taking heavy fire. They're advancing and your time in this life is just about up.

So is that it for you? Those 19, 20 years are the limit of your life?

Nothing after?

See, this would never happen to me. I am a consciensious objector, even though I have no idea if I spelled it right.

In the event of a draft, I am smart enough to realize that the first thing I need to do is kiss the DI full on the mouth. Sure, it would get me the beating of a lifetime, but it would also keep me from having to take a life.

[Ratman_tf]

Originally posted by Riddick

I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.

btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.

Have a nice F***ing day.

If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call? And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it. As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven. If I forget, remind me when we get there. I just want you to know that we have mutual feelings towards eachother. Lots of hate coming your way friend. And there'll be more. I been to prison a couple times. One was Assault on a Sheriff. I'll kick your @$$ to.

Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth. When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body.

Ouch. Don't get insecure just because your god is all fake and ****.










:D

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by scribble


You're off by almost a decade. I'll be 29 this year. How I wish I were a stupid kid again.

In the meantime, I'll settle for "stupid." I can't argue that I'm that. :D

Have you noticed that since several people have pointed out their belief that Riddick is in fact NOT a 42 year old, MBA, world class water skiier, that he has taken to calling those same people "kids".

Sort of makes you wonder, doesn't it.....

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy
See, this would never happen to me. I am a consciensious objector, even though I have no idea if I spelled it right.

The last time there was a draft in the USA, that is Vietnam Era, I was eligible to be drafted for the last two years of it, but my number never came up. So I was never forced to make the hard choice.

Being a CO did not exempt one from being under fire. I have a close friend who I have known since high school. He was a CO in Vietnam. He was a medic aboard a huey (helicopter gunship) that evacuated wounded from combat zones. The huey had gunners like other hueys, though my friend wasn't one of them.

He personally wouldn't kill for ethical reasons, but he was in combat.

An atheist in a flying 'foxhole'. Survived, and still an atheist.

[Some Friggin Guy]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


Have you noticed that since several people have pointed out their belief that Riddick is in fact NOT a 42 year old, MBA, world class water skiier, that he has taken to calling those same people "kids".

Sort of makes you wonder, doesn't it.....

That, and the fact that he has also claimed to be a world class slalom skier.

[Some Friggin Guy]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


The last time there was a draft in the USA, that is Vietnam Era, I was eligible to be drafted for the last two years of it, but my number never came up. So I was never forced to make the hard choice.

Being a CO did not exempt one from being under fire. I have a close friend who I have known since high school. He was a CO in Vietnam. He was a medic aboard a huey (helicopter gunship) that evacuated wounded from combat zones. The huey had gunners like other hueys, though my friend wasn't one of them.

He personally wouldn't kill for ethical reasons, but he was in combat.

An atheist in a flying 'foxhole'. Survived, and still an atheist.

No doubt, being a CO isn't enough to keep one out of service if there is a draft. I didn't mean to imply it was.

I meant, in saying that I am a CO, that I would never volunteer for military service. In the event of a draft, I will do anything in my power to avoid it. (being a dual citizen, I can simply ex-patriate, but I figured I would give the idea of kissing the DI to any COs out there who don't have the same dual status.)

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Riddick

The Jews are a blessed lineage by God. And they worship on the correct day, the Sabbath. Didn't Jesus say, "No man cometh unto the Lord, but by me"? What, he forgot to add the fine print?

"No man cometh unto the Lord, but by me or those who take Saturday off."

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


Have you noticed that since several people have pointed out their belief that Riddick is in fact NOT a 42 year old, MBA, world class water skiier, that he has taken to calling those same people "kids".

Sort of makes you wonder, doesn't it..... Not to mention being a 42 yo anime fan and now a bad@ss that beats up cops. Oooo....

[Suddenly]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Not to mention being a 42 yo anime fan and now a bad@ss that beats up cops. Oooo....

Out of politeness I won't even wonder how many world class skiiers there are in Nebraska.

I will however make a sick joke in a future post.

[Suddenly]

Just because this sort of thing never gets old:

"Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth. When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body."


So, you are doing 19 or 20 to life for blowing someone's head off. Several large inmates decide you ratted one of them out and are going to carve you up with sharpened toothbrush handles. They are advancing and your time in this life is about up....

[Luke T.]

Originally posted by Riddick
I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.

btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.

Have a nice F***ing day.

If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call? And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it. As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven. If I forget, remind me when we get there. I just want you to know that we have mutual feelings towards eachother. Lots of hate coming your way friend. And there'll be more. I been to prison a couple times. One was Assault on a Sheriff. I'll kick your @$$ to.

Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth. When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body.


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[The Mighty Thor]

I think his sig gives it away:

" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.' " - Romans 14:11

Riddick -ulous is God's Enforcer. Was Jesus packin' under dem robes?

[the_ignored]

Originally posted by c4ts
Alas poor Riddick, who seems to believe that the primary motivation to become Christian is fear. In this particular instance, it is the fear of death. Fear is something to be conquered by the individual from within, not by accepting a certain set of external beliefs. If you choose to let your religious beliefs conquer your fears for you, you will grow dependant upon these and defend them irrationally, even to the point of being manipulated.That's how xian apologetics work...Just check out Ray Comfort's site...livingwaters.com He's got a lot of threat stuff in there. Along with the usual assortment of other apologetic bs. But his focus seems to be on the "we all deserve eternal punishment" stuff.

Heh. One difference between this board and xian boards; we can have someone swear and threaten us, and we don't ban them. On xian boards, if you just "mock", you're out of there.

Never let it be said that JREF doesn't allow dissenting opinions!

I'm sure those Taliban guys who flew their planes into the twin towers weren't the least bit afraid of death, assured by the belief that god would reward them in the hereafter.

[MLynn]

Originally posted by the_ignored
Heh. One difference between this board and xian boards; we can have someone swear and threaten us, and we don't ban them. On xian boards, if you just "mock", you're out of there.

Never let it be said that JREF doesn't allow dissenting opinions!

[b]
I agree - today I was going to register at RR just to see if I could contribute something more than the fluffy stuff I have read (gagged) there. I read their 13 rules. Well, no point in me signing up at the moment - I'd probably be censured in a couple of days. what a dam* shame...;)

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by MLynn
I agree - today I was going to register at RR just to see if I could contribute something more than the fluffy stuff I have read (gagged) there. I read their 13 rules. Well, no point in me signing up at the moment - I'd probably be censured in a couple of days. what a dam* shame...;)
I think some of the best advice I've ever seen on that board was one woman advising another woman just to stick it out with her husband, because divorce is bad (as is questioning male dominion over a wife). The problem: The husband can only be aroused when fantasizing of women with bullet wounds, bruises, lacerations across the neck and arms, and the marks of basic torture.

A shame really that you are missing such a bright thoughtful group of individuals ;)...

[/cynicism]

[MLynn]

Originally posted by Yahweh

I think some of the best advice I've ever seen on that board was one woman advising another woman just to stick it out with her husband, because divorce is bad (as is questioning male dominion over a wife). The problem: The husband can only be aroused when fantasizing of women with bullet wounds, bruises, lacerations across the neck and arms, and the marks of basic torture.

A shame really that you are missing such a bright thoughtful group of individuals ;)...

[/cynicism]
See, this is where I would get in trouble - I'd advise the woman to leave the butthead immediately - that if her husband doesn't love her as Christ loved the Church as is commanded, their marriage contract is null and void...see what I mean? I would cause all sorts of trouble...

[c4ts]

They will kick you out for having too much of a different viewpoint and providing evidence that supports your views.

[Virgil]

Originally posted by rachaella
Maybe if everyone thought that this was the one and only life we have there would be less 19-20 year olds in foxholes.


AmenVirgil

[LeFevre]

I like how Riddick is a complete fu*king pussy, after being so open about his murderous thoughts to Scribb and because he is such a big man with the power of Christ compelling him to act a stupid Christian fu*k (you know, we have all heard the word from a Christian preaching the word, threats of murder because you HATE someone due to your reading some of their texting on the net is straight up Jesus. That is how one really worships Jesus.) now Riddick totally folds and deletes that post.

Riddick, you could post a pic of yourself reading randi.org. Then we would have some proof of your adulthood (or that you are a 14 yr old proud of all the peach fuzz you got going on).

[LeFevre]

no pic yet Riddick?

[scribble]

Is he even still around? I kind of assumed he got laughed off the board.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by scribble
Is he even still around? I kind of assumed he got laughed off the board.

I have noticed him around from time to time.

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Originally posted by Yahweh
I think some of the best advice I've ever seen on that board was one woman advising another woman just to stick it out with her husband, because divorce is bad (as is questioning male dominion over a wife). The problem: The husband can only be aroused when fantasizing of women with bullet wounds, bruises, lacerations across the neck and arms, and the marks of basic torture.

A shame really that you are missing such a bright thoughtful group of individuals ;)...[/cynicism] So what are you implying? That this woman should leave her husband just because he has a fetish? A fetish that takes place in his imagination, no less.

Thank you, Dr. Phil.

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by scribble
Is he even still around? I kind of assumed he got laughed off the board.

Maybe he pops up when he's frustrated about his wife's refusal to entertain his fantasies?


disclaimer: Just guessing.. I could be wrong..

[Riddick]

Originally posted by LeFevre
I like how Riddick is a complete fu*king pussy, after being so open about his murderous thoughts to Scribb and because he is such a big man with the power of Christ compelling him to act a stupid Christian fu*k (you know, we have all heard the word from a Christian preaching the word, threats of murder because you HATE someone due to your reading some of their texting on the net is straight up Jesus. That is how one really worships Jesus.) now Riddick totally folds and deletes that post.

Riddick, you could post a pic of yourself reading randi.org. Then we would have some proof of your adulthood (or that you are a 14 yr old proud of all the peach fuzz you got going on).
You and your Fabio hair are calling me a pussy? ROFLMAO.

You suck.

Yea right, I go around lying I'm 42yrs old, which is about 25 years older than the average poster in R&P.

I hold a master's degree pal. So keep lighting up your bong and talking like some tough Fabio. You fat pussy.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Is he even still around? I kind of assumed he got laughed off the board.
Go outside and yell "I'm an Athiest!"

Then check and see who's laughing at who. :wink:

You and your whiz bang logic speaking friends ARE the minority pal, sucks for you.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
Go outside and yell "I'm an Athiest!"

Then check and see who's laughing at who. :wink:


There's nobody but geese and rabbits and people in cars within earshot. But it was relieving anyhow.

Checking... yup. I'm still laughing at you.


You and your whiz bang logic speaking friends ARE the minority pal, sucks for you.

Not really. I'm proud to be in this minority, if it's so. Following the masses never made me too happy. It's okay if it works for you, though.

[Riddick]

Keep laughing, I'm reloading.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
Keep laughing, I'm reloading.

See? You want me to laugh at you. You are a commedian.

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Just ignore him. He's in the same class as Idiotic Ian. If you don't respond to him, eventually his threads will fall off the board.

And he totally ripped off REO Speedwagon.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Wrath of the Swarm
Just ignore him. He's in the same class as Idiotic Ian. If you don't respond to him, eventually his threads will fall off the board.


Sadly, he is, as you say, in the same class as Ian. By which I mean only that no matter how hard I ignore him, he's not going to go away. So it's more fun for me, personally, to take the ocassional jab.

However, I don't think he's in the same class as Ian in all respects. I don't like either of them, but I'd be far more likely to have a good time were I out for a beer with Ian than Riddickulous.

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Then you're part of the problem. It's the idiots like you who give idiots like Riddick a place on the boards.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Wrath of the Swarm
Then you're part of the problem. It's the idiots like you who give idiots like Riddick a place on the boards.

Well, then it's time you put me back on ignore, isn't it?

Christ, I thought I could be nice to you, maybe reply to something you said without pointing out that you're supposed to be ignoring me, or what I think of you personally... but apparently not.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble


Sadly, he is, as you say, in the same class as Ian. By which I mean only that no matter how hard I ignore him, he's not going to go away. So it's more fun for me, personally, to take the ocassional jab.

However, I don't think he's in the same class as Ian in all respects. I don't like either of them, but I'd be far more likely to have a good time were I out for a beer with Ian than Riddickulous.
You can't even spell freaking "comedian" right.

You're some punk who thinks he's on top of the world.

Beware my friend, some day your world might come to a crashing halt.

So, I'm 42 and your 'em maybe 25. Go ahead punk, jab away. I'll bounce you on my knee until you grow up.

You hardly like anybody you meet on first impression. You and I are very different. And we'll always be that way.

[scribble]

Maybe it's because you're so much older than me, Oh Wise One, but I can't understand what you're trying to say.

YUp, I misspelled a word. I've misspelled a lot more than that over the years. I'd be more surprised to get through a post without misspelling somehting.

Yup, you claim to be older than me. You asked me how old I was before, and I told you then. (I guess you can't remember too well, because I'm not 25.) Nothing new here.

Yup, you don't like me. You've made that clear before.

What, exactly, were you trying to add? Or are you just out of material and repeating yourself at this point?

[Riddick]

I made it clear I didn't like you *after* you stated you didn't like me.

However, I hardly know you, so there's barely a reason to dislike you.

I don't have such a willy-nilly way of disliking people. I see that as unbecoming a person.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
I don't have such a willy-nilly way of disliking people. I see that as unbecoming a person.

I assure you, the reasons I dislike you are neither arbitrary, vague, nor "willy-nilly."

[Riddick]

Please, expand on your dislike, you seem to excel at it.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Riddick
I don't have such a willy-nilly way of disliking people. I see that as unbecoming a person. But you do willy-nilly threaten to kill people. Weird.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
Please, expand on your dislike, you seem to excel at it.

It expands every time I read something new and pointless written by you, Riddick. So keep going, and I'll do as you've asked.

I won't expound the details, however, as that would be tantamount to flaming. If you have a sincere desire to know what failings I feel you have, then you may request that respectfually via e-mail. However, I'd like to suggest at this point that if what I think of you is of such intrest, you may have too high an opinion of me.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
But you do willy-nilly threaten to kill people. Weird.
It was taken out of context. But then, I think I'll be reposting that line for eons.

If you consider the entire thread, and then that post in question, then it was not built will-nilly as you surmise.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
It expands every time I read something new and pointless written by you, Riddick. So keep going, and I'll do as you've asked.

I won't expound the details, however, as that would be tantamount to flaming. If you have a sincere desire to know what failings I feel you have, then you may request that respectfually via e-mail. However, I'd like to suggest at this point that if what I think of you is of such intrest, you may have too high an opinion of me.
I'm sure you can eloquently describe your dislike, or have I brought your blood to a boil? If so, that was rather easily accomplished.

Do whatever you like, continue disliking me as you wish. It seems to satisfy you. I'm here for you, ready for you to dislike me as much as you can.

I just want you to know that I'm here for you, so feel free to build as much hate towards me as possible. I hope that you'll find satisfaction in that.

[frisian]

Originally posted by Riddick
Keep laughing, I'm reloading.

Eh? Reloading what?

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
I'm sure you can eloquently describe your dislike, or have I brought your blood to a boil?

Okay... uh... maybe you should read what I wrote before you respond again. I explained why I won't go on about it any further.

[c4ts]

I just had a scary thought: what if Riddick really is 42? That would make him mildly retarded, or simply a failure in wisdom and maturity, so that he's stuck at the mental age of 14. Perhaps we're look at it the wrong way. Riddick is to be pitied, seeing how half his life is over and he may never even begin to live a fulfilling and rewarding life. He is a broken, twisted thing, having done nothing with his life nor planning on improving the quality of it in any intellectual or philosophical manner.

[scribble]

Originally posted by c4ts
Perhaps we're look at it the wrong way. Riddick is to be pitied, seeing how half his life is over and he may never even begin to live a fulfilling and rewarding life.[/B]

Assume instead that he is 14, as you suggest. Should we pity his behaviour any less? Or should you wonder what sort of horrible family he lives in, and where his parents are?

My point being: you may as well take his claims at face value. Whether he's 14 or 42 doesn't change a thing about his ability to speak to a point or act in a mature fashion.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by c4ts
I just had a scary thought: what if Riddick really is 42? That would make him mildly retarded, or simply a failure in wisdom and maturity, so that he's stuck at the mental age of 14. Perhaps we're look at it the wrong way. Riddick is to be pitied, seeing how half his life is over and he may never even begin to live a fulfilling and rewarding life. He is a broken, twisted thing, having done nothing with his life nor planning on improving the quality of it in any intellectual or philosophical manner.
B.S., Accounting, 1984
Master of Business Administration, 1990
GPA 3.5/4.0
Slalom Skier:
....AWSA Exceptional Performance Rating: 52 buoys (4 @ 12m; 36mph)
....U.S. Nationals '93 & '95
....U.S. Men II Ranking: tied for 36th
....1993 Men's Open Class Slalom World Ranking: approx. 150th-200th
....Sponsors: SouthEast MasterCraft Boats, HO Extreme Waterskiis

My father was President of his company which in 1983 garnered the Small Business Associations (assets less than 15 million) Small Business of the Year for the State of Nebraska. He went to Washington to compete for the National Small Business of the Year and heard a presentation by then President Reagan and VP Bush.
The National Award went to a Taco Business Owner.

[scribble]

1995-present... (aw, there's too many good jokes, make up your own)


Seriously, Riddick, if you're trying to prove something, posting some half-a-resume we can't even connect to you independently isn't going to do it.

I could just as easily post that I was president in 1864. There's no proof here, Riddick. What is your point?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Riddick

It was taken out of context.

Has anyone ever noticed that people love to use that line whenever they screw up verbally? Politicians, movie stars, Riddick, it doesn't matter, anytime somebody stuffs their foot in their mouth, the explanation is always "It was taken out of context"

Funny ol' world eh?

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Riddick

B.S., Accounting, 1984
Master of Business Administration, 1990
GPA 3.5/4.0
Slalom Skier:
....AWSA Exceptional Performance Rating: 52 buoys (4 @ 12m; 36mph)
....U.S. Nationals '93 & '95
....U.S. Men II Ranking: tied for 36th
....1993 Men's Open Class Slalom World Ranking: approx. 150th-200th
....Sponsors: SouthEast MasterCraft Boats, HO Extreme Waterskiis You forgot to include jackass.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep

Funny ol' world eh?

I especially don't get it here, since I can't imagine any context in which a death threat is OK. The very idiocy of it is there was no context for it to be taken out of...

...or if there were, it would be in this very thread, by definition, wouldn't it? I mean, WTF?

Of course, I didn't point it out earlier because pointing out the individual silly things Riddick says would be keeping all the fun for myself. Others get to play too, right?

[Riddick]

I didn't mean to imply what you're thinking.

The same as John Kerry didn't throw his war metals.

Actually Kerry and I are very different. You're all having an uproarious time trying to corner me on that like a bunch of pestering kids.

Kerry actually threw his medals, so there's a big difference.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
1995-present... (aw, there's too many good jokes, make up your own)


Seriously, Riddick, if you're trying to prove something, posting some half-a-resume we can't even connect to you independently isn't going to do it.

I could just as easily post that I was president in 1864. There's no proof here, Riddick. What is your point?
Aren't transcripts good for proof anymore?

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

Aren't transcripts good for proof anymore?

Okay, did I use words that were too large when I explained why you haven't proven anything by posting a bunch of dates and positions and degrees? I could post a list of dates and positions and degrees, too. Yeah, even degrees, though I've never held one... nothing would stop me from posting anyhting I liked, would it? You couldn't very well connect any of those facts with me except that I'd posted them, and what does that prove? Nothing.

I thought my illustration of claiming I was President Lincoln would make my point clear even if I didn't spell it out well enough. I understand I can be vague sometimes. Do you get it now?

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Okay, did I use words that were too large when I explained why you haven't proven anything by posting a bunch of dates and positions and degrees? I could post a list of dates and positions and degrees, too. Yeah, even degrees, though I've never held one... nothing would stop me from posting anyhting I liked, would it? You couldn't very well connect any of those facts with me except that I'd posted them, and what does that prove? Nothing.

I thought my illustration of claiming I was President Lincoln would make my point clear even if I didn't spell it out well enough. I understand I can be vague sometimes. Do you get it now?
You feel that, given the opportunity, people tend to be liars and cheats.

Is that your way of thinking?

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

You feel that, given the opportunity, people tend to be liars and cheats.

Is that your way of thinking?

No. You misunderstand. It has been claimed you are 42. It has been claimed you might not be. You posted something, that I took to be in defense of your stance that you are 42. I am merely pointing out that it in no way provides evidence for your stance. It is further claims from you.

I'll make it extra, super-duper simple, because I know I've got a tendency to get off track.

If someone doesn't believe you when you say you are 42, why would they believe you when you claim to have gotten a BS in 1984?

That is all.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Riddick

You feel that, given the opportunity, people tend to be liars and cheats.

Is that your way of thinking?

False Dichotomy.

Saying that YOU would lie, does not imply that a person thinks everyone is a liar.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble


No. You misunderstand. It has been claimed you are 42. It has been claimed you might not be. You posted something, that I took to be in defense of your stance that you are 42. I am merely pointing out that it in no way provides evidence for your stance. It is further claims from you.

I'll make it extra, super-duper simple, because I know I've got a tendency to get off track.

If someone doesn't believe you when you say you are 42, why would they believe you when you claim to have gotten a BS in 1984?

That is all.
SEE. This is exactly why age does not matter. Why oh why can't I get the college girls to date me. You guys can't tell what age I am, therefore I should be able to date college girls.

Proving my age is like trying to prove God, eh? Can't be done.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep

Saying that YOU would lie, does not imply that a person thinks everyone is a liar.

Nyar, just for the record, I didn't even say he would lie; in fact I said specifically that one may as well take his claim to be 42 at face value.

My point was only that he can't back up anything with what he posted... so it's either just more repetition of tired old things (I suggested earlier he may be running low on material) or he sincerely doesn't understand what constitutes evidence.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
[B]
SEE. This is exactly why age does not matter.


You're preaching to the choir this time, Riddick -- if you took the time to actually read my posts you'd see I've never questioned you on your age. I believe it's irrelevant.


Why oh why can't I get the college girls to date me. You guys can't tell what age I am, therefore I should be able to date college girls.


Maybe they dislike you for other reasons? I know I do.


Proving my age is like trying to prove God, eh? Can't be done.

So what was your post for? Were you trying to make any point? Or just repeating yourself?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by scribble


Nyar, just for the record, I didn't even say he would lie; in fact I said specifically that one may as well take his claim to be 42 at face value.

My point was only that he can't back up anything with what he posted... so it's either just more repetition of tired old things (I suggested earlier he may be running low on material) or he sincerely doesn't understand what constitutes evidence.

I realize that. My post was a likely futile attempt to point out the flaw in the logic of his statement. I did not mean to imply that you said anything that you did not actually say. Sorry

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Maybe they dislike you for other reasons? I know I do.

You dislike it whenever a new grocery store opens.

willy-nilly scribble.

Go ahead and repeat "I don't like you Riddick." 500 times. You're repeating worse than I am. You sound like a kid I'm sitting next to in the sandbox who won't lend his shovel.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

You're repeating worse than I am. You sound like a kid I'm sitting next to in the sandbox who won't lend his shovel.

Riiiight... speaking of evidence, all evidence points to you not reading my posts very well.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
Riiiight... speaking of evidence, all evidence points to you not reading my posts very well.
Oh I'm reading them with passing interest.

You have my undivided attention. You've established you don't like me, now what else do you have for me?

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick

now what else do you have for me?

I dunno. Let's see what Riddickulous thing you say next. Reading over the conversation, there's plenty you've ignored... but I'm okay with that. I'm just here to poke the caged bear.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by scribble
I dunno. Let's see what Riddickulous thing you say next. Reading over the conversation, there's plenty you've ignored... but I'm okay with that. I'm just here to poke the caged bear.
I'll just chalk that up to "I set myself up for that one." and leave it at that.


1)Halle Berry has filed for divorce.
2) Rebecca Romjin-Stamos and John Stamos are separated!

I love it when love stinks for other people --- then I'm not alone!

[Suezoled]

No matter how many people divorce Riddick... you'll still be alone. Go join the Chess club or something.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by scribble


Assume instead that he is 14, as you suggest. Should we pity his behaviour any less? Or should you wonder what sort of horrible family he lives in, and where his parents are?

My point being: you may as well take his claims at face value. Whether he's 14 or 42 doesn't change a thing about his ability to speak to a point or act in a mature fashion.

If he is only 14, he may grow out of it. A lot of adolescents go through an extremely religious phase as part of finding their identity. However, if he's 43, it's a lot more likely he'll stay like that forever, and thus it is a sad, sad state of affairs.

[scribble]

Originally posted by c4ts

If he is only 14, he may grow out of it. A lot of adolescents go through an extremely religious phase as part of finding their identity. However, if he's 43, it's a lot more likely he'll stay like that forever, and thus it is a sad, sad state of affairs.

Well, in my opinion, any religious beliefs he holds are tangential at best to his problems.

You may be right, but I feel he'll have a hard time changing regardless.

[c4ts]

I imagine him one day posting about how he decided that there was something wrong with the way he was going about religion, but I think this may be several years in the future. Currently he is not prepared to examine his beliefs in a critical manner, nor anyone else's. Perhaps he considers himself a skeptic because he is skeptical of all ways of thinking but his, if he considers himself a skeptic at all. He may just be here to annoy the other posters.

[Riddick]

You annoy yourselves. That is your passion.

[scribble]

Originally posted by Riddick
You annoy yourselves. That is your passion.

You've been checking out lifegazers One Mind, I see. How would you know what annoys me, and what my passion is?

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Riddick
You annoy yourselves. That is your passion.

But I thought you said all we do is agree with each other and pat ourselves on the back.

Wait, it was Franko who said that.

[LeFevre]

Originally posted by Riddick

You and your Fabio hair are calling me a pussy? ROFLMAO.

You suck.

Yea right, I go around lying I'm 42yrs old, which is about 25 years older than the average poster in R&P.

I hold a master's degree pal. So keep lighting up your bong and talking like some tough Fabio. You fat pussy.

Still no picture eh dumbfu*k? Keep it up adult nice loving christian man, maybe next time you throw a titty baby tantrum you could throw some more murderous thoughts in your delusional faith for Jesus.

So you are 42 eh? And you have the temper and patience of a punk kid who has three hairs on just dropped balls. So how about a 42 year old male for Jesus go out and buy a cheap ass webcam, then take a pic of you reading the JREF?

Unless that is too much for you, but I figure if you are man enough to threathen someone on a message board with murder, having your picture posted on the same site with all these pussies shouldn't be so scary.

Should I start a Riddick clock counting the days he goes without posting a picture of himself reading the JREF?

Hey, you could be 42 guy and just act like many males do around 15, at least violence and emotionally wise. Losing it on a message board and talking about murdering someone doesn't seem like a 42 year old emotionally mature adult.

Oh yeah, cartoon animation is sweet, I wanna use one as my avatar. I esspecially would if I were 42.

So how about that pic big strong Riddick?

[LeFevre]

Originally posted by Wrath of the Swarm
Then you're part of the problem. It's the idiots like you who give idiots like Riddick a place on the boards.

And it is idiots like you, who bother to post to tell others what to do thus bumping threads back up. Just ignore the dumbfu*ks and the dumbfu*ks who respond to the dumbfu*ks, etc.

[LeFevre]

Originally posted by Riddick

SEE. This is exactly why age does not matter. Why oh why can't I get the college girls to date me. You guys can't tell what age I am, therefore I should be able to date college girls.

Proving my age is like trying to prove God, eh? Can't be done.

Posting a picture of yourself would do a good job of showing that you aren't 14, that you aren't a pissed off kid flaming away all those swirlies he got in school from the bully today.

Now maybe we wouldn't be able to tell if you are 35, 42, 47, an old looking 30, but we would have a good idea that you do indeed have more than three hairs on just dropped balls.

[calladus]

Originally posted by LeFevre


Posting a picture of yourself would do a good job of showing that you aren't 14, that you aren't a pissed off kid flaming away all those swirlies he got in school from the bully today.

Now maybe we wouldn't be able to tell if you are 35, 42, 47, an old looking 30, but we would have a good idea that you do indeed have more than three hairs on just dropped balls.

Give it up dude..

We'll never see a believable picture of Riddick - as long as he can keep his Schrodinger box closed, he can continue to play all he wants.

[Riddick]

Originally posted by LeFevre
Posting a picture of yourself would do a good job of showing that you aren't 14, that you aren't a pissed off kid flaming away all those swirlies he got in school from the bully today.

Now maybe we wouldn't be able to tell if you are 35, 42, 47, an old looking 30, but we would have a good idea that you do indeed have more than three hairs on just dropped balls.
Maybe if you clicked on the profile button and went to my homepage, you'd see my picture. The guy skiing on the photo page, that's also me, slaloming at the 1993 U.S. Nationals.

Maybe a few of your neurons will fire together and make the connection.

I'm still waiting for you to squeal "STRAWMAN!" like so many of you pansies do. Somehow, that makes you feel like you're some logical brainiac who can overthrow the world!!!!

I bought a logic/critical thinking textbook at the university. I just set it on the shelf --- turns out to be a 100 level course.

You talk *hit to me, and you want me to be nice to you? Is that what you want? The way it works is, you give me mutual respect, and I in turn give you mutual respect. That's how it works. If you don't like it, that's your problem.

[LeFevre]

Originally posted by Riddick

Maybe if you clicked on the profile button and went to my homepage, you'd see my picture. The guy skiing on the photo page, that's also me, slaloming at the 1993 U.S. Nationals.

Maybe a few of your neurons will fire together and make the connection.

I'm still waiting for you to squeal "STRAWMAN!" like so many of you pansies do. Somehow, that makes you feel like you're some logical brainiac who can overthrow the world!!!!

I bought a logic/critical thinking textbook at the university. I just set it on the shelf --- turns out to be a 100 level course.

You talk *hit to me, and you want me to be nice to you? Is that what you want? The way it works is, you give me mutual respect, and I in turn give you mutual respect. That's how it works. If you don't like it, that's your problem.

Riddick, you, being 42, I think could understand that a pic of some guy doesn't go far. However if you were to post a picture of you viewing the JREF, that would be better IMO than some picture of a guy skiing. If you wanted a pic of me would you want one of me skiing or one of me viewing the JREF?

Uh, I didn't say strawman! Does that make your - love of Jesus - heart soar with glee? Does that make your assumption of me (and your assumption of my feelings) wrong?

Did you give respect to Scribble in the post you made on 03-18-2004 08:32 PM and that Tim deleted due to the threats you made? Is that how someone in the fold of the ever loving Jesus gives respect?!?

If you don't have a problem posting your pic on the net, and that guy on your site is you, then why not go ahead and post a picture of you viewing the JREF? Honestly I could understand some of the statements you have made, like the one to Scribble, if you were a young guy. If you really are 42, and you do post a pic of you viewing the JREF, cheers to you. But from just reading what you write, you come off as a pissed off kid not an adult Christian man full of the love and light of Jesus.


Behold the joy and love that comes from having Jesus Christ as your lord and savior

I hope you enjoyed Michael Jordan's stay in Chicago, because your city sucks now.

btw, the Jewish God is the same as my God. Christ was a Jew. So you will see me there, ya sucker.

Have a nice F***ing day.

If I'm holding a gun to the roof of your mouth, ready to pull the trigger, who ya gonna call? And I will cap you my friend. No doubt about it. As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven. If I forget, remind me when we get there. I just want you to know that we have mutual feelings towards eachother. Lots of hate coming your way friend. And there'll be more. I been to prison a couple times. One was Assault on a Sheriff. I'll kick your @$$ to.

Now, what you say here in posts will most likely be entirely different if there's actually a gun pointed at the roof of your mouth. When high-velocity metal is about to meet the brain, one's perspective can change. So make your courageous posts here, I'll tack them on your forehead when I dispose of your body.

Ah! Look at all that respect. Look at all that Jesus love!

So how about that pic? Or do I need to have lots of hate going your way like you wrote to Scribble? You know, that Jesus love!

[LeFevre]

I'll give you a bit of respect Riddick. Here is a question asked in a non-aggressive way.

Do you now stand behind what you wrote to Scribble? About you saying you would cap Scribble? What about you saying, " As a matter of fact, I will hunt you down and kick your @$$ in heaven."? Do you stand by that now? Were you just pissed? Trying to make a point and it got taken the wrong way?

Have you really been to prision for assaulting a Sheriff? That would be off topic, but if that is true hearing about that could be fun.

Would you think someone worth of respect if they had said similar things to you? To a friend of yours? To some stranger when you were around to hear?

[Riddick]

Originally posted by LeFevre
Riddick, you, being 42, I think could understand that a pic of some guy doesn't go far. However if you were to post a picture of you viewing the JREF, that would be better IMO than some picture of a guy skiing. If you wanted a pic of me would you want one of me skiing or one of me viewing the JREF?

Uh, I didn't say strawman! Does that make your - love of Jesus - heart soar with glee? Does that make your assumption of me (and your assumption of my feelings) wrong?

Did you give respect to Scribble in the post you made on 03-18-2004 08:32 PM and that Tim deleted due to the threats you made? Is that how someone in the fold of the ever loving Jesus gives respect?!?

If you don't have a problem posting your pic on the net, and that guy on your site is you, then why not go ahead and post a picture of you viewing the JREF? Honestly I could understand some of the statements you have made, like the one to Scribble, if you were a young guy. If you really are 42, and you do post a pic of you viewing the JREF, cheers to you. But from just reading what you write, you come off as a pissed off kid not an adult Christian man full of the love and light of Jesus.

Behold the joy and love that comes from having Jesus Christ as your lord and savior

Ah! Look at all that respect. Look at all that Jesus love!

So how about that pic? Or do I need to have lots of hate going your way like you wrote to Scribble? You know, that Jesus love!
btw, it was LukeT who did the editing to my post.

If I showed you my pic viewing jref, would you believe it looks exactly like the guy standing next to the motorcycle? I don't have a webcam, or a digital camera. You'll have to live in torment that the guy with the motorcycle and on the ski is me. You should be able to read my age from how easily I pwn you during everyday discourse.

Right now, you're sounding so pathetically young, I find myself speechless. That's the worst thing I have to say about you.

The thing with scribble got way stretched out of proportion. What I write and what I actually do are two different things entirely. But many around here want to perpetuate that feeling. Somehow, they use it to make themselves feel better. They can gather around and console eachother from Riddick. I just had a case of being pissed off and wrote it. It come out of my fingertips and they take it literal as God actually came down to earth and spoke to them personally.

There's no convincing them otherwise. They don't like me, so they'll never change their mind. And you are following in their footsteps. I've seen other posters here who read it and they said it was "...just a bunch of hot air." Sparklecat said that over at FStDT.

Whatever. jref'ers want to believe a falsehood. Well, most of them are young and like to be excitable about things.

I'll pass on this tip to you: Round about 30yrs old, your dick goes geriatric on you and it will be a real bugger to try and get a hardon. Never will you be able to obtain that teenage or 20's hardon. Say goodbye to that youthful hardon for good. Because it will leave you --- I guarantee it. Round about thirty. Then you'll say, sheesh, Riddick was right. Don't believe me? Ask your dad. Ask any jref'er over 35yrs. So you better enjoy getting laid as much as you can now, because it will go away from you. That's what you have to look forward to. That's about all there is to it.

[LeFevre]

Originally posted by Riddick
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btw, it was LukeT who did the editing to my post.

If I showed you my pic viewing jref, would you believe it looks exactly like the guy standing next to the motorcycle? I don't have a webcam, or a digital camera. You'll have to live in torment that the guy with the motorcycle and on the ski is me. You should be able to read my age from how easily I pwn you during everyday discourse.

Ah, you pwn me durung everyday discourse? If you say so man. What I saw was a guy claiming to be a 42 year old Christian but came off to me as again as a young pissed off guy. If me calling you out on your threats of violence (even in your believed heaven) is you pwning me then I guess you pwned me guy.

I don't care if the person would match the motorcycle or skiing picture. Get a cheapass webcam, I got one for $25 and that is how I took my avatar pic.


Right now, you're sounding so pathetically young, I find myself speechless. That's the worst thing I have to say about you.

I am much younger than you, but I'm not sure about pathetically. That must be more Christian brotherly love. And if that is the worst thing you have to say about me, I am probably doing good. Some of the worst things I get from you from reading your posts is that you are prone to violence (threats to Scribble, admittance of assulting a Sheriff, who knows what else you have done), have a quick temper, and you have some differing views than the vast majority of Christians I have come in contact with (the vast vast majority of people I have had contact with in my life) in regards to respect and how one treats their fellow humans.

The thing with scribble got way stretched out of proportion. What I write and what I actually do are two different things entirely.

I figured so, but asking for clarification helps. I find it hard to accept that you who claims to be a Christain would really do those things.

But many around here want to perpetuate that feeling. Somehow, they use it to make themselves feel better. They can gather around and console eachother from Riddick. I just had a case of being pissed off and wrote it.
It come out of my fingertips and they take it literal as God actually came down to earth and spoke to them personally.


Well I wouldn't claim to know their motives or how things make others feel, but I undertand and thought that you were just pissed at Scribble. Still, just reading that, the thoughts you had when you were pissed, wasn't something I expect from a grown 42 year old male Christian. Honestly that sounds like a pissed off young kid.

There's no convincing them otherwise. They don't like me, so they'll never change their mind. And you are following in their footsteps. I've seen other posters here who read it and they said it was "...just a bunch of hot air." Sparklecat said that over at FStDT.

I also thought you were just pissed, but again asking for clarification from the horse's mouth can't hurt (much).


Whatever. jref'ers want to believe a falsehood. Well, most of them are young and like to be excitable about things.


Maybe so

I'll pass on this tip to you: Round about 30yrs old, your dick goes geriatric on you and it will be a real bugger to try and get a hardon. Never will you be able to obtain that teenage or 20's hardon. Say goodbye to that youthful hardon for good. Because it will leave you --- I guarantee it. Round about thirty. Then you'll say, sheesh, Riddick was right. Don't believe me? Ask your dad. Ask any jref'er over 35yrs. So you better enjoy getting laid as much as you can now, because it will go away from you. That's what you have to look forward to. That's about all there is to it.

ooookay lol. Thanks for the advice, maybe I'll ask my older brother how his penis is doing.

[LeFevre]

Cheapass webcam, but it works decent enough

http://sdlfever.bizhosting.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/Picture6.jpg

[LeFevre]

no pic yet?