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jestblaze
28th February 2011, 01:31 PM
I recently discovered with the help of a third party that I have a cancelling effect on sounds around the frequency of 14000Hz. I tested this by downloading NCH Tone Generator and having someone else tell me if they noticed "muting" disruptions in the constant tone.
SumDood
28th February 2011, 01:38 PM
If you're doing it with your mind alone, then probably so. If your doing it by standing in front of the speakers or placing you hand over the listener's ears, then no.
So can you be any more specific regarding your talent?
Milbrandt
28th February 2011, 01:46 PM
I just played a 14000 Hz tone and the tone seems to disappear at times. So I guess it's just your ears (well, brain) getting used to the tone and losing it.
Kind of like when you hear a clock ticking and five minutes later you don't.
What exactly are you doing (or think you are doing) to cancel out this tone?
fuelair
28th February 2011, 01:52 PM
And, check out the rule details before making plans!!!Short version - you in the news, known, investigated?
fuelair
28th February 2011, 01:53 PM
and remember, the people who are simply forum members have zero to do with that matter anyway - we are the wrong people to ask. Honest!!!
Loss Leader
28th February 2011, 01:54 PM
If you've asked a person to tell you when they think the sound has been muted, that's not a very scientific test. It presupposes an answer and leads the subject to assume that the sound has been muted in the first place.
However, you could gin up a pretty easy protocol to fix that: The sound is turned on. A noise meter measures the sound. For the first thirty seconds, you attempt to mute the sound. For the next, you don't. You continue on like this for ten minutes. You take the number of times you successfully muted the sound and subtract the number of times the sound was muted during your off-periods. If the number is more than 5, I'd say you win.
Note: this only works if your power is the ability to mute sound. If your power is the ability to make people think that a sound has been muted, you'll need a different protocol.
sadhatter
28th February 2011, 02:01 PM
Another in the long line of useless superpowers. Even if this person is 100% legit, what a useless ability. What possible benefit would it give someone.
One second, the bank is getting robbed, get " Tone-deaf", why? I don't know, he has a cool costume.
geni
28th February 2011, 02:11 PM
Another in the long line of useless superpowers. Even if this person is 100% legit, what a useless ability. What possible benefit would it give someone.
Sound supression is an area of significant interest in the areas of ocupational health and improving living enviroments. It also has millitry applications.
The current solutions of either physical barriers or active noise control both have their limitations.
wardenclyffe
28th February 2011, 03:34 PM
jestblaze,
You probably do not qualify for the MDC, yet. Unless you have a media presence, academic affidavits, etc., your application would not be accepted.
However, there are many other cash prizes similar to the MDC for which you do qualify. If you were to pass one of these, not only would you win the prize, but you would almost certainly get all the media presence and academic attention that you would need to go for the million.
I don't know where you live, but below you will find a list of paranormal challenges around the world. Pick the closest one and go for it.
Good luck,
Ward
P.S. Here's the list:
There's the Australian Skeptics' AU$100,000 Prize
http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/prize/
They also offer AU$20,000 as a "Spotter's Fee"
There's the IIG's US$50,000 Challenge in California, USA
http://www.iigwest.org/challenge.html
They also offer US$5,000 as a "Finder's Fee"
There's the North Texas Skeptic's US$12,000 Challenge in the USA
http://www.ntskeptics.org/challenge/challenge.htm
There's Prabir Ghosh's 2,000,000 Rupee Challenge in India
http://rationalistprabir.bravehost.com/
There's the Swedish 100,000SeK prize offered by Humanisterna
http://www.humanisterna.se/index.php...d=27&Itemid=49
The Tampa Bay Skeptics offers a US$1000 prize in Florida, USA
http://www.tampabayskeptics.org/challenges.html
In Canada there's the CAN$10,000 from the Quebec Skeptics
http://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/activites/defi
In the UK, the ASKE organization offers £14,000
http://www.aske-skeptics.org.uk/challenge_rules.htm
Tony Youens in the UK offers £5,000
http://www.tonyyouens.com/challenge.htm
In Finland, Skepsis offers 10,000 Euros
http://www.skepsis.fi/haaste/
The Fayetteville Freethinkers in Arkansas, USA offer a US$1000 prize
http://fayfreethinkers.com/
There's a 1,000,000 Yuan prize in China offered by Sima Nan. This is his blog: http://blog.sina.com.cn/simanan
The Belgian SKEPP organization offers a 10,500 Euro prize
http://www.skepp.be/prijzen/de-sisyphus-prijs/
If you find any broken links, or know of any tests not on this list, please notify me in this thread.
jestblaze
24th April 2011, 09:43 AM
Ok here's my test tone.....
psionicdrug.net/telepathy.wav
I've been told that listening it in conjunction with thinking of me produces the result of muting to my speech/thought pattern
wardenclyffe
24th April 2011, 10:25 AM
Perhaps you've been told that, but does a decibel meter agree? Ultimately, that's what you'll need to objectively measure whether sound is being supressed. If the sound is not actually being supressed and you are instead affecting the minds of the listeners, then a completely different and more complicated protocol is necessary.
Have you contacted any of the testing organizations that I mentioned two posts ago? They can help you set up a test. We cannot. We are just an online forum.
Ward
Dumb All Over
25th April 2011, 12:59 PM
Ok here's my test tone.....
psionicdrug.net/telepathy.wav
I've been told that listening it in conjunction with thinking of me produces the result of muting to my speech/thought pattern
Told by whom?
ETA: Nevermind. After reading some of jestblaze's other posts within the forum, I realize he/she is a person who suffers from a mental condition. I will not participate in this thread beyond this post.
jj
25th April 2011, 01:39 PM
Look up "standing wave" first. Consider that.
epepke
26th April 2011, 04:40 PM
Almost everybody has a dip in hearing around that frequency due to flyback transformers.
Loss Leader
26th April 2011, 04:55 PM
This whole thing is sad.
ktesibios
28th April 2011, 07:25 PM
Look up "standing wave" first. Consider that.
^This.
If you play a tone through a loudspeaker in a room and walk around the room, you will find that there are locations where the tone is loud and others where it disappears, demonstrating that the distribution of sound pressure within the space is not uniform due to reflections from the walls, ceiling and floor.
Try the same thing with a signal having a spread-out spectrum, like pink noise, and this effect goes away.
Back when we studio rats used to do everything on magnetic tape, I discovered that if I sat in just the right place in Sigma studio 1 while the 10 kHz tone on the 2" alignment tape was playing I could hear the effect of the rotating takeup reel on the sound- since reel flanges have wedge-shaped cutouts in them to facilitate threading, as the reel rotated the way in which it reflected the sound coming from the monitor speakers changed depending on whether a cutout or a solid part was in a particular place.
I also once had a horripilating experience while doing some repairs on a friend's mixing console. Having finished fixing the master section I reinstalled it, fired up the desk and turned on a 1 kHz tone to see if it was working. I was horrified to hear it fading in and out rhythmically..... WOOP...WOOP...WOOP..
Just as the cold horror of "Oh quartz, now I've gone and broken it" was washing over me I glanced upwards and then reached up and pulled the chain to shut off the ceiling fan. WOOP...WOOP.......WOOOOP...........WOOOOOOP....... .......WOOOOOOOOOO...
That's all it was- the reflections from the rotating fan blades.
To eliminate reflections and the room's resonant modes as confounders, your test would have to take place in a damned good anechoic chamber.
Bilbo
5th May 2011, 05:42 PM
I recently discovered with the help of a third party...
You see, that's your problem. You should have stopped at the second party.
Are you some kind of glutton for punishment? I can usually get by on just the first party, and if I'm still sober, I may consider a second...but never a third.
Have you considered AA?
Skeptic Ginger
5th May 2011, 07:32 PM
I just played a 14000 Hz tone and the tone seems to disappear at times. ....Attenuation is a well known phenomena with nerve impulses.
Andrew Wiggin
8th May 2011, 10:56 PM
Count me out. I probably couldn't hear it even if it wasn't muted.
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