Franko's "Universe as a Computer Program" Debunked

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Franko
How specifically is your model of the Cosmos different then a great computer program? Aren’t all of your “models” of it literally on computers?

Suppose that you are a computer program MRC. Even if it were probabilistic, would that mean you were NOT bound by the laws (code) the program was written in?

Try to get it into your head, Frank: I do not deny that I am bound by tlop. I never have denied being bound by tlop. You dont need to keep arguing that point. I do, however, deny that tlop is a conscious entity. Is the code of a program conscious?

Isn’t DNA a lot like computer code/data MRC? How is DNA unlike a computer program?

I would say DNA is more like a blueprint. We are built according to the blueprint, but it doesn't control our actions, like a computer program would.

Hans

[Franko]

MRC:

Try to get it into your head, Frank: I do not deny that I am bound by tlop. I never have denied being bound by tlop. You dont need to keep arguing that point. I do, however, deny that tlop is a conscious entity. Is the code of a program conscious?

It is impossible for you to be more conscious then the source of a force which is controlling your actions. To claim otherwise is analogous to claiming that your legs are more conscious then your mind, because mind controls Legs.

[Franko]

MRC:
I would say DNA is more like a blueprint. We are built according to the blueprint, but it doesn't control our actions, like a computer program would.

So your DNA does not effect the appearance or performance of your physical body???

DNA is the data (blueprint), then an algorithm runs which reads the DNA and makes your body.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Franko


So your DNA does not effect the appearance or performance of your physical body???

DNA is the data (blueprint), then an algorithm runs which reads the DNA and makes your body. Of course it affects my possibilities. It also decided whether I had the ability to learn English. And it might have a part in making me stubborn enough (or silly enough) to keep attempting to communicate with you. But the fact that I'm writing these words, and indeed my everyday actions have nothing to do with DNA.

The blueprint decides whether a computer is a PC or a Mac, but whether it runs a word-processor or a spreadsheet is not determined by the blueprint.

Hans

[Franko]

Franko:
DNA is the data (blueprint), then an algorithm runs which reads the DNA and makes your body.

MRC:
Of course it affects my possibilities. It also decided whether I had the ability to learn English. And it might have a part in making me stubborn enough (or silly enough) to keep attempting to communicate with you. But the fact that I'm writing these words, and indeed my everyday actions have nothing to do with DNA.

Really?

So you are claiming that even if you had the DNA of a housefly that you would still be carrying out the same daily routine? If you had housefly DNA, I would notice nothing different in the style or content of your posts?

Is that what you are claiming?

MRC:
But the fact that I'm writing these words, and indeed my everyday actions have nothing to do with DNA.

And I thought that Tricky was a nutcase for believing that TOAST was superior to Human Beings.

MRC:
The blueprint decides whether a computer is a PC or a Mac, but whether it runs a word-processor or a spreadsheet is not determined by the blueprint.

I suppose that you’ll tell us Magic determines what software is run? I suspect that next you will tell us that we should “just take your word for it”? You sound like that Mystical A-Theist – UCE.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Franko
Really?

So you are claiming that even if you had the DNA of a housefly that you would still be carrying out the same daily routine? If you had housefly DNA, I would notice nothing different in the style or content of your posts?

Is that what you are claiming?

Your mind really works in mysterious ways. If I had the DNA of a housefly, I would be busy buzzing around in the kitchen. Mmm, I dont think I can explain it more clearly. If you don't understand it, -- tough luck.

And I thought that Tricky was a nutcase for believing that TOAST was superior to Human Beings.

Yet another strawman of yours. Do you never get tired of them?

I suppose that you’ll tell us Magic determines what software is run? I suspect that next you will tell us that we should “just take your word for it”? You sound like that Mystical A-Theist – UCE.

Take my word for what?

Hans

[chessmanskeptic]

Originally posted by Franko
Yeah, you A-Theists are probably right ... it's just all magic.


heehehe ... retards ...


Well then again your dam*** theory leaves plenty of open ends.

example: Psychics are probably hackers of TLOP. :rolleyes:

Which in turn leaves the open possibility of "magic" althought the psychic would not be able to perceive it. :rolleyes:

Can you not realize your theory is flawed. It leaves open ends for free will. Consciousness can not be emulated in any way shape or form. Your da**** Goddess is also forced to obey TLOP so in turn she is also a figure of predestination. :p

[wraith]

Originally posted by chessmanskeptic
Can you not realize your theory is flawed. It leaves open ends for free will. Consciousness can not be emulated in any way shape or form. Your da**** Goddess is also forced to obey TLOP so in turn she is also a figure of predestination. :p

It has been said many times that the Higher Power is bound to Fate...