Leftist Politician Compares Bin Ladin To Founding Fathers

[Jedi Knight]

There is nothing more dangerous to America than a leftist politician who does not understand American history (http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73127970327425&Avis=TO&Dato=20030301&Kategori=NEWS10&Lopenr=103010151&Ref=AR).

The comparison made between the founding fathers of the United States and Osama Bin Ladin is laughable. It is just more matriarchal cultural terrorism against our history by radical leftist chicks who don't have a clue about the history of their own country and yet get elected into office lol. How did that stupid chick get elected?

JK

[corplinx]

"One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown,"


Did our founding fathers target civillians or military targets?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by corplinx
"One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown,"


Did our founding fathers target civillians or military targets?

You know what is really scary about leftist matriarchal chicks like her? Take the US for example. That chick is saying Osama is a founding father because Osama rejects religious diversity.

Can you imagine for a moment, if you will, if an American started terrorist actions like Osama because they wanted nothing but Christianity in this country? The FBI, BATF, SWAT, Delta Force, The US Army, The National Guard and every other soldier at the government's disposal would be ordered into service against that American citizen by radical leftists on a moment's notice to conduct WACO-style operations against them.

But no, since Osama wants to make the world entirely Islamofascist, he is "celebrated" as being a "founding father".

It never surprises me anymore how total idiots can get elected into office in this country.

JK

[DialecticMaterialist]

Ridiculous. How do you equate the fight against monarchists for freedom with the fight against a free state for sake or totalitarian fundamentalism? This lady has lost touch with reality.

BTW Jedi don't even pretend this is all or even mainstream liberalism. if you are going to take that route we may as well look into Neo-Confederates and right wong governments like the Saudi monarchy and Iranian theocracy.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
Ridiculous. How do you equate the fight against monarchists for freedom with the fight against a free state for sake or totalitarian fundamentalism? This lady has lost touch with reality.

BTW Jedi don't even pretend this is all or even mainstream liberalism. if you are going to take that route we may as well look into Neo-Confederates and right wong governments like the Saudi monarchy and Iranian theocracy.

Why pretend facts? The mainstream liberal matriarchal agenda is just this sort of nonsense that the chick said. Every "culture" but American culture matters to these matriarchal chicks.

In America, Americans are force-fed a "diversity" agenda where American natives are put to the task of respecting endless "cultural" intrusions into this country and "celebrate" them, you know, like a birthday party or something important.

Now, when Americans even hint to wanting to see some "diversity" and "multiculturalism" in another country, we are "colonialists" who must be "terrorized and killed" because those that reject the very venom Americans have forced upon us here in this country by liberal definition become "founding fathers".

It is laughable and shows how far gone our country is. We are America in name only and that chick's opinion was liberal mainstream. Even the incredible lack of understanding of US history fits the liberal mindset. Remember, a bunch of old white guys started America. There is nothing more matriarchal incorrect than that, and it appears that if there were a way to redefine the founders, making them into Osamas would fit the liberal agenda.

JK

[DialecticMaterialist]

Why pretend facts? The mainstream right-wing patriarchal agenda is just this sort of nonsense that the group (http://www.kingidentity.com/) said. No races but aryan races matters to these patriarchal dicks.

In America, Americans are force-fed a racist/neo-confderate" agenda where American freedoms are put to the task of respecting endless right-wing intrusions into this country and "celebrate" them, you know, like a birthday party or something important.

Now, when Americans even hint to wanting to see some freedom and democracy in another country, we are "federalists" who must be "terrorized and killed" because those that reject the very venom Americans have forced upon us here in this country by liberal definition become "founding fathers".

It is laughable and shows how far gone our country is. We are America in name only and that dick's opinion was conservative mainstream. Even the incredible lack of understanding of US history fits the conservative mindset. Remember, a bunch of old enlightenment philosophers started America. There is nothing more theocratically incorrect than that, and it appears that if there were a way to redefine the founders, making them into Osamas would fit the conservative agenda.

Other "mainstream" conservative/right wong sites:

http://www.confederateparty.org/
http://www.cc.org/
http://www.kukluxklan.net/
http://www.christian-aryannations.com/
http://www.acton.org/
http://www.whitedove.com/PK/misvis.html


and last but not least:

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/index.html

Where this right-wing theocrat says:

Further Proof that GOD HATES AMERICA

God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward its landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 18!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!




and the lovely:

On September 11, 2001, God Almighty struck the United States of America with the worst terrorist attack in her history. Thousands died, millions, even billions of dollars lost and spent in subsequent recovery, cleanup, and security measures, and what has changed? Nothing. One week after America is struck by God's Hand, the Pervert in Chief George W. Bush swears in an out of the closet, militant homosexual, Michael Guest to be Ambassador to Romania! The representative face of America to Europe is an out of the closet fag! Guest, along with his fag lover, live as husband and wife in the American Embassy in Bucharest, flaunting their perversion at every opportunity, representing America as a fag nation!!




Now if you want to talk about liberal venom and hatred of the US I think you should start with some of the nuts in your own camp. I admit some liberals might dislike America but I've never seen a liberal bash on America as badly as this right-wing reaction fanatic. Seriously, before you smear liberals perhaps you should take a good look at yourself. Or perhaps you just shouldn't generalize a large political group on the basis of a few nuts huh?

[Goshawk]

Hey, JK: While I agree that it was a silly thing for Marcy to say, still, check this out:Miss Kaptur...said her political and moral views were influenced by her family’s tradition of...service in the U.S. Marine Corps and Army infantry.Yeah, you War Vet, you--you and her are on the same side!

Heh. :D

[Pyrrho]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
It never surprises me anymore how total idiots can get elected into office in this country.

JK

Well, when you have an electorate that can't read beyond a 6th grade level, this is the result. Stupid people deserve stupid government.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
Why pretend facts? The mainstream right-wing patriarchal agenda is just this sort of nonsense that the group (http://www.kingidentity.com/) said. No races but aryan races matters to these patriarchal dicks.

In America, Americans are force-fed a racist/neo-confderate" agenda where American freedoms are put to the task of respecting endless right-wing intrusions into this country and "celebrate" them, you know, like a birthday party or something important.

Now, when Americans even hint to wanting to see some freedom and democracy in another country, we are "federalists" who must be "terrorized and killed" because those that reject the very venom Americans have forced upon us here in this country by liberal definition become "founding fathers".

It is laughable and shows how far gone our country is. We are America in name only and that dick's opinion was conservative mainstream. Even the incredible lack of understanding of US history fits the conservative mindset. Remember, a bunch of old enlightenment philosophers started America. There is nothing more theocratically incorrect than that, and it appears that if there were a way to redefine the founders, making them into Osamas would fit the conservative agenda.

Other "mainstream" conservative/right wong sites:

http://www.confederateparty.org/
http://www.cc.org/
http://www.kukluxklan.net/
http://www.christian-aryannations.com/
http://www.acton.org/
http://www.whitedove.com/PK/misvis.html


and last but not least:

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/index.html

Where this right-wing theocrat says:




and the lovely:






Now if you want to talk about liberal venom and hatred of the US I think you should start with some of the nuts in your own camp. I admit some liberals might dislike America but I've never seen a liberal bash on America as badly as this right-wing reaction fanatic. Seriously, before you smear liberals perhaps you should take a good look at yourself. Or perhaps you just shouldn't generalize a large political group on the basis of a few nuts huh?

You linked a bunch of whimpering juvenile websites--so what? How many of those people hold elected office? Zero. How many people are actually in those groups that you linked? 5? 6?

How many politicans are in the KKK and hold elected office? Zero. How many politicians are in the Nazi party? Zero.

How many leftist liberal politicans talk smack about their country all the time? Many. Too many to count. How may liberal leftists hate their country because it was founded by a bunch of old white guys? Many. Too many to count.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by pyrrho2000


Well, when you have an electorate that can't read beyond a 6th grade level, this is the result. Stupid people deserve stupid government.

No, it is beyond stupidity.

When leftists and liberals in general are asked about their opinion of Islamofascist terrorism, instead of saying something constructive to help their country they reply, "Gosh, Osama is a founding father!"

It also hilariously proves that the only religious respect that the left-wing gives to religious people are to those people outside America who are religious. The left bows to those people while at the same time the left culturally terrorizes religious Americans and their children. Maybe the left does have some things in common with Al Qaida.

JK

[corplinx]

Originally posted by pyrrho2000


Stupid people deserve stupid government.

That's good enough to be in a sig. :)

[bignickel]

Comparing these people to our Founding Fathers? Madness!

They are the moral equal of our Founding Fathers and the brave men and women of the French Resistance.

Whoops! My mistake! That was Ronald Reagan speaking about the Contras. :)

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by bignickel
Comparing these people to our Founding Fathers? Madness!



Whoops! My mistake! That was Ronald Reagan speaking about the Contras. :)

To be comparable Reagan would have had to call the Sandinistas and Daniel Ortega the founding fathers.

JK

[DialecticMaterialist]

How many people are actually in those groups that you linked?

Try millions.....

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist




Try millions.....

Millions? No way. There may be 10 well known people who espouse the views publicly and perform call to action type agendas, but they have what, a maximum of 10 or so people behind them?

Look, I have traveled the world and the entire United States and I have never seen one KKK guy except when the 5 who wear the robe get on TV in some back-woods hick town and have some march. I have never seen any organized group have any influence you describe in the all the years I have been alive.

...and yet, I turn on the TV or pick up a newspaper and I see matriarchal anti-American cultural terror every single day. Every day there is something going on with those people.

So again, if you are going to link a website, bring one up that isn't run by some 10 year old whimpering punk Nazi-puberty wannabe and show me the "millions". It just doesn't exist.

Also, why is the mainstream (leftist media) media ignoring this issue? I haven't heard a word about the "Osama Is An American Founding Father" in any leftist media outlet (99% of all media).

Guess that is because they are too busy sniveling against the awesome President Bush. The leftist media is so laughable that it is only a matter of time before conservatives run the whole ballgame.

JK

[Beausoleil]

Strom Thurmond?

And is there anyone else quite as nutty as Ashcroft?

Conservatives already run the US media - it's just that they aren't conservative enough for the extreme right. I've never seen such unctuous right wing drivel as the typical US TV news show.

[DialecticMaterialist]

The Justice Department reported 8,000 incdidents of hate crimes in 1997. http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/07/hate.groups/

There are an estimated 676 racist/hate groups in the US. http://www.tolerance.org/maps/hate/index.html

[NullPointerException]

I'd just like to point out that moderates also hold responsibility for anything that happens by refusing to vote or hold office.

[Samus]

I'd just like to point out that I dig your username. :)


D.W.
Java programmer

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
The Justice Department reported 8,000 incdidents of hate crimes in 1997. http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/07/hate.groups/

There are an estimated 676 racist/hate groups in the US. http://www.tolerance.org/maps/hate/index.html

In a population of 300,000,000, the total hate-crime number of 8,000 cases proves how very marginal those groups are. Also, you have to take a look at the definition of groups. It takes two or three people to make a group. Show me any extremist group that you mentioned that has more than 100 members. I don't think any such group exists.

The only extremist groups that have such members are gangs in the cities that are not radical right-wing. Funny how you don't hear about those gangsters though and how dangerous they are. No, the fear-mongering is only about the two radicals that form a group behind fascism where the radicals are usually teenagers who throw up a webpage in high-school.

The "extremist" situation in this country and how the crimes are tabulated are just like car accidents. They happen, but there is no organization.

JK

[NullPointerException]

Would it matter if they elaborated on the criminal statistics? They would still be attacked for their credibility and used incorrectly. If you ask me the polarization of idealogical sentiment is responsible for a good deal of the disinformation around today. Even the most discerning individual would be lost to tell you what was real and what was fake.

Yeah, I chose my username because it was the error that came up most frequently in my last Java Program.