Harry Potter Religious Fanatics

[sweetkb713]

I know this is an old topic, that religious nuts hate Harry Potter, but I ran across this website today and had to share:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1377.cfm

[Checkmite]

"You think the dead we loved ever truly leave us? You think that we don't recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble?... You know, Harry, in a way, you did see your father last night...You found him inside yourself." (The Prisoner of Azkaban, page 427-428) This teaching is standard witchcraft teaching that no one ever dies, they just change to another dimension; in that dimension, the living can contact the dead.

This is amazing. With absolutely no context at all, it's very clear what the quoted passage is supposed to mean, and it has nothing to do with "the dead contacting the living".

There's lots of nonsense on that page, of course - that particular piece, however, is the most shining example of the incompetence we're dealing with.

[Suezoled]

Secondly, we see the typical mental obsession of a witch in this next excerpt. "Filch grabbed a quill from a pot on his desk and began shuffling around looking for parchment. 'Dung,' he muttered furiously, 'great sizzling dragon bogies . . . frog brains . . . rat intestines . . . I've had enough of it . . . make an example . . . where's the form . . .'?" [Ibid]

This filth from Professor Filch brings a Bible verse to my mind: "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." [Philippians 4:8]

Silly humans! They believe Filch is a professor when everyone knows he's just a Squib who can't even use magic! He's the janitor for a reason! Wahaha!

And those spells like Nox and Lumos... am I detecting a bit of Latin? Doesn't that thar bible thing have latin too?

Gracious me.. if this man gets word out about my movement to bring back the antichrist, all will be ruined! We must put ouf more Harry Potter to corrupt the children! (And when is that third movie coming out again?)

[sweetkb713]

Originally posted by Suezoled

And those spells like Nox and Lumos... am I detecting a bit of Latin? Doesn't that thar bible thing have latin too?

What I wonder is if these people really think Wicca is like Harry Potter's kind of magic. The magic in HP is SO NOT what Wicca is! Or any kind of witchcraft, for that matter. Witches don't pull out wands and say "alohomora" to open up a locked door, they don't levitate things by "swish and flick - wingardium leviosa!"

Another thing - does this mean that these people are admitting there IS such a thing as witchcraft?

I used to babysit a family who were very strong Baptists. Little strange, but nice people. The kids were not allowed to watch "Sabrina, the Teenaged Witch" because she was a witch. When I read them "The Neverending Story," I had to skip all the parts about the witch, or just not say the word "witch."

Worst of all, I was doing a report on the Salem witchcraft trials. The girls were already asleep when I took out the books. I was writing my report as the parents came home. They sat me down and gave me a very stern lecture about bringing this "evil" into the house. If that had happened now instead of when I was 14, I would have said, "you do realize that these weren't REAL witches, but a case of mass hysteria, probably brought about by people just like you!"

[RamblingOnwards]

If the book depicts Harry Potter attending school to specifically improve his knowledge of the occult, you can bet your children reading the book will learn the lessons of witchcraft as well as any witch of any coven.

Really? I've been trained in this stuff? Cool!

stupefy!

...

Dang.

Harry is told by a professor "after all, to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure." (The Sorcerer's Stone, pg 302). This doctrine is occultic, Satanic, and Wiccan through and through.

So, is death for Christians supposed to be boring?

Also in The Sorcerer's Stone, Harry espouses his belief that power is true reality instead of Absolute Good and Evil.

Funny, I thought it was Voldemort who had that belief. You know - the bad guy.

The term, "Sorcerer's Stone " is also called the "Philosopher's Stone", and it is very, very Satanic!

Ah, the death of education.

The favorite holiday of this bunch of Satanists is exactly the same as for every other Satanist, Halloween, Satan's perfect night.

A request to all indignant Christians - if you're going to call this a pagan festival, please use the pagan term (saimhain). Condemning the Christian version (All Hallows Eve, the day before All Hallows/Saints Day - a day in memory of all dead Christians) just makes it sound like you don't like catholics.

"haggis" ... As disgusting as this dish seems to be to me...

I wonder what any Scottish Christians think when they read this.

Christians are absolutely forbidden to allow their children to take such Satanic filth into their young, programmable minds.
...
Censorship is perfectly within God's will when it is carried out to protect the lives of the innocent.

Programmable? More and more I come around to the opinion that religion should not be sold to children under sixteen.

I did notice 'The Satanic Bible' was quoted extensively and referenced properly. The quotes and paraphrases from Harry Potter sound like they were made by someone who hasn't even read the book and weren't referenced at all. It's quite clear which book the 'researchers' found more entertaining.

Thanks for the link, it filled up my quota of righteous indignation for the week.

[phildonnia]

I'm familiar with the entire site, which is pretty funny. Long ago, I sent the good pastor a little criticism of his mathematics in his "school shootings" page.

Seriously, this guy can find the antichrist everywhere. Even in "The Passion..", which has its own section.

It's not there anymore, but the first Harry Potter expose on this site had a reference to an article about the widespread rise in satanism among HP readers. The article was in The Onion.

:dl:

[Goshawk]

sweetkb713, this is the kind of people you're dealing with-- People who believe this:Beginning with Disney placing a Witches hat on Mickey, and finishing 6 decades later with Harry Potter , Americans have taught little children the essence of deep magic witchcraft.There's not a lot you can do with people who believe that Mickey Mouse in The Sorcerer's [gasp!! that word!!] Apprentice is Satanic.

Except pray for them, maybe. :D

[Loki]

RamblingOnwards,

More and more I come around to the opinion that religion should not be sold to children under sixteen.
I'd vote for this.

[Toastrider]

There are days when I feel the same way, and I was brought up a Roman Catholic to boot.

This reminds me of the wonderful fol-de-rol over roleplaying games, particularly (cue scary dramatic music) Dungeons and Dragons. As I rather sardonically remarked, 'You know, I want my money back. After all the roleplaying games I've played and run, at this point I should be able to cast spells, leap tall buildings in a single bound, fight like a martial artist, shoot a gun like a Special Forces commando, and drive ten-meter-tall humanoid death machines.'

--Toasty

[Matabiri]

At this point, I could not help myself; I raised my hand to ask a related question: "'You spoke earlier about the Pope going to Jerusalem; when Lord Maitreya makes his appearance, there will be three types of people:

1. Those whose consciousness has been properly raised so they can readily accept him;

2. Those whose consciousness has been raised somewhat, but not so high that they can readily and immediately accept him; however, they might be able to accept him after further enlightenment;

3. Those who will never accept him.'"

Mr. Lambert plainly stated that the vast majority of the population of the world had to fall into either category One or Two, before Antichrist could arise._Thus, the formerly solid Christian-values-based culture of America had to be dramatically changed before Antichrist could arise._We have carefully catalogued the methodical, planned manner in which this change has been effected since 1963, both in Seminars 1 and 2. However, since Harry Potter is so clearly and plainly active witchcraft, and is still accepted by parents as proper reading material for their young children [whom they are supposed to love with all their heart], we can only conclude that this necessary conditioning level_has reached the point where most of the American people will be "properly awakened receptors" to him._Since so many other End Times prophecies are coming to fruition, and so many other ones are having the stage set for their fulfillment, we can only conclude that the American population is rapidly approaching the point needed for the appearance of Antichrist, where the people are "properly awakened receptors" for him. Harry Potter is leading the way, just like Pied Piper._Satan is playing the music, and Americans are dancing_close behind.


This would imply that Christians should love atheists. They're never going to "accept" the Antichrist; they don't believe in him.

And it also means that a sufficient number of atheists in the population would prevent the coming of the Antichrist...

[S. D. Youngren]

Can't help wondering what would happen if you tried to explain to this guy that a lot of the scenes he's complaining about are...well...



funny.

I also like the tear he goes off on regards symbolism. Some symbol that's been around approximately forever, and he's going to pick out the meaning (among many) that he likes, and throw a hissy. Has he forgotten the good unicorn, Jewel, in The Chronicles of Narnia--or is that satanic too?

Or was that last a silly question?

[Oleron]

When I first read this I thought it was a spoof. Then I came to the chilling conclusion that this guy is actually serious!
Youngren's reference to Narnia is very apt. Narnia was written with an obvious Christian agenda yet it is full of mythical and fantastic beasts and magic. Funny he doesn't see this as a reason to attack C.S Lewis, yet Rowling is fair game?

He must have had his irony bone surgically extracted.

[sweetkb713]

Originally posted by Goshawk
There's not a lot you can do with people who believe that Mickey Mouse in The Sorcerer's [gasp!! that word!!] Apprentice is Satanic.

Except pray for them, maybe. :D [/B]

Oh yeah, Disney has been teaching me the basics of DEEP MAGIC for years. But the mouse's knowledge only goes back to the Dawn of Time. There is a magic deeper still. If a willing victim gives himself in the traitor's place, the stone table will crack, and death itself will be denied.

One thing not to be overlooked here: Mickey Mouse IS evil.

[sweetkb713]

Originally posted by Oleron
Youngren's reference to Narnia is very apt. Narnia was written with an obvious Christian agenda yet it is full of mythical and fantastic beasts and magic. Funny he doesn't see this as a reason to attack C.S Lewis, yet Rowling is fair game?

He must have had his irony bone surgically extracted.

LOL at all the Narnia references! As soon as I saw the "deep magic" I thought immediately of Aslan.

As far as Lewis goes, yeah, the entire Chronicles are about the Christian religion, with Aslan as the Christ figure. Good books. LOTR is also written with a Christian intent.

[Kerberos]

Originally posted by Matabiri


This would imply that Christians should love atheists. They're never going to "accept" the Antichrist; they don't believe in him.

And it also means that a sufficient number of atheists in the population would prevent the coming of the Antichrist...
No, no, no!!!! We atheists only PRETEND that we don't believe in the Antichrist, I reality we are his secret diciples AND WHEN HE RIZES WE WILL FLOCK AROUND HIM AND THE END OF TIMES WILL DRAW NEAR!!!!!! MUUUUUAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[Cecil]

This teaching is standard witchcraft teaching that no one ever dies, they just change to another dimension; in that dimension, the living can contact the dead. So why isn't he going after JE? ;)

[Ratman_tf]

Originally posted by sweetkb713
[B LOTR is also written with a Christian intent. [/B]

Mmmm. Don't see it personally. Can you point out any specific stuff from the books that you think is a good example?

[Toastrider]

I'm not seeing it either. Gandalf could be VERY loosely interpreted as a Christ-like figure, but I always thought Tolkien originally based LOTR on the old Scandinavian and Germanic myths (Beowulf, et. al.).

*listens to Enya, 'May It Be'*

--Toasty

[Rolfe]

It's pretty subtle, but it was intentional. Bilbo was meant to find the ring, but not by its maker, stuff like that. Not specifically Christian, as there's no redemptive figure as such, but Christian in philosophy.

Gandalf was one of the Maiar, essentially an angel.

Read the beginning of The Silmarillion to get the point.

Rolfe.