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DialecticMaterialist
6th March 2003, 02:36 PM
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/index.html

Further Proof that God Hates America

America = Babylon = Iraq

As the bloody butcherous bully Bush prepares to slaughter unknown thousands of Iraqis, whom he thinks might, possibly be thinking about creating a weapon of mass destruction, North Korea sits in open defiance, mocking him and his silliness with all the technologies and knowledge necessary, brazenly building a nuclear weapon. Where is all his gusto and war rhetoric toward North Korea? Where are the threats of utter annihilation and removal of the North Korean government by force? Where are the jack booted soldiers preparing to invade homes, schools and hospitals in search of the elusive weapon of mass destruction in North Korea? If Bush was interested in a righteous protection of America and the rest of the world, he would pursue all such rogue governments. His interests don't lie in justice and protection, instead, his interests lie in positioning himself as the great Anti-Christ, ruler of Babylon, the Golden City.

The simple fact of the matter is, Bush is being sent a strong delusion, so that he can spiral America further down his path of perversion, drawing ever closer to her destruction. The area that is today Iraq was once known as Babylon. Anyone with half a brain and an ability to read the Bible knows that Babylon is the spiritual enemy of God's people, and the center of all that is evil, the Type used in the Bible to represent the final judgment of God against all that have rejected Him. Why would Bush, if not to position himself this way, want anything to do with running Babylon? Only the purely evil would partake on such a folly, and that gives us further proof of God's hatred for this evil nation.

Goshawk
6th March 2003, 02:44 PM
DM, I dunno if you're familiar with that website, but if you aren't, you should know that Fred Phelps is hardly representative of the Baptists, being a universally acknowledged extremely insane sicko. His "Westboro Baptist Church" is AFAIK not affiliated with any mainstream Baptist denomination, although he styles himself as a "Primitive Baptist", which is a denomination of sorts.

Anyway, he's the Godhatesfags guy, he was seriously deranged to begin with, and this is his new hobbyhorse, that the Columbia explosion proves that God has deserted fag-lovin' America.

So if you're starting this thread in response to JK's "Leftist Politician Compares Bin Ladin To Founding Fathers" thread, I have to say that I don't think the comparison stands up at all. Rep. Marcy Kaptur is just another liberal politician shooting off her mouth a bit, but Fred Phelps is seriously mentally ill, and has been for years, so I don't think it's fair to compare the two.

corplinx
6th March 2003, 03:10 PM
Another loudmouth religioso who preaches to the choir to avoid being on the wrong end of an ass whipping I take it?

DialecticMaterialist
6th March 2003, 04:42 PM
Goshawk: Read Jedi Knights post on "Leftist compares Bin Laden to founding fathers" to see what I am responding to. :)

Tony
6th March 2003, 08:16 PM
What state does this minister represent? Who elected him?

This is not comparable to the remarks made by the represenative from Ohio.

DialecticMaterialist
6th March 2003, 09:47 PM
Really why not? Cause he's not a rep(circularity). He's still a right-wing preacher with some followers. If you are going to stereotype every leftist based on the statement of a single politician then you should likewise prepare yourself to be stereotyped on the basis of any right-wing religious nut that spouts out a bunch of BS. If you're going to stereotype; prepare to be stereotyped. Or perhaps you shouldn't use hasty generalizations based on one example......

The Central Scrutinizer
6th March 2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Goshawk
Anyway, he's the Godhatesfags guy, he was seriously deranged to begin with, and this is his new hobbyhorse, that the Columbia explosion proves that God has deserted fag-lovin' America.


Well, in the off chance he might be right, I'm going to stop loving those fags. Figuratively, of course. :eek:

Tony
7th March 2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
Really why not? Cause he's not a rep(circularity). He's still a right-wing preacher with some followers. If you are going to stereotype every leftist based on the statement of a single politician then you should likewise prepare yourself to be stereotyped on the basis of any right-wing religious nut that spouts out a bunch of BS. If you're going to stereotype; prepare to be stereotyped. Or perhaps you shouldn't use hasty generalizations based on one example......

I wasnt stereotyping.

The fact remains, it is unacceptable for a public servant to make such an asinine comment and expect to get away with making said comment. (remember the Trent Lott comments last december?)

This fanatical preacher is just that, a fanatical preacher. He is not a public servant and he is not elected. Now if Tom Delay came out and said "God hates fags", than he should be denounced, and would be, by both the left and the right.

Has anyone on the left denouced this congresswoman?

Goshawk
7th March 2003, 01:03 PM
Yeah, I figured that's what it was. Well, the problem is still that Fred Phelps doesn't have a "church" or a "following" as such, so he isn't really "representative" of any point of view except for his own very personal and highly idiosyncratic sicko fringe. His church consists basically of his extended family and a few wingnuts, and that's it. So I still don't think it's fair to compare him to Rep. Kaptur.

Also, Marcy Kaptur hasn't spent the last 40 years spewing hatred and venom--she just made a single ditzy out-of-left-field statement.

See, it's kind of like you're trying to compare Ted Bundy with some podunk armed robber who took a potshot at the 7-11 clerk and killed him. Sure, they're both murderers, but what a difference.

Fred Phelps and Marcy Kaptur both made extremist and offensive statements, but that's as far as the comparison goes, IMO. You can't say, "Fred is an example of right-wing extremism the same way Marcy is an example of left-wing extremism", because Fred is not a normal human being, and Marcy, even though she may be an elected official, is. :D