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Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
7th April 2004, 01:21 PM
This has got to be the most riotitious orb article ever. Make sure you read the description:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page425.html

~~ Paul

CFLarsen
7th April 2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
This has got to be the most riotitious orb article ever. Make sure you read the description:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page425.html

~~ Paul

Wait, wait...so, he could see the orb?? :)

Tricky
7th April 2004, 01:32 PM
That idiot! Anyone can tell that's Glenda, the Good Witch of the North. She just travels as an orb.

figtertype
7th April 2004, 01:51 PM
Did any of you follow the link to their EVP page? Someone had fun playing with a synthisizer. The female voices I listened to sounded mostly like the same person run through different filters.

IF they DID deliberately fake those, it wouldn't be a far cry for them to claim they saw the 'orb' that appeared on the film while they were recording.

I don't know much about photography, but the placement of everything on camera makes me think that they were expecting the 'orb' a little higher than it actually appeared. If they actually saw it, he would be extending the tape player out more horizontally so that the 'orb' would be closer to the mic, right? In fact the way he's holding the tape player almost makes me think that he is using to reflect light it in some manner to make the 'orb' appear on camera.

Hmm....

Dancing David
7th April 2004, 03:47 PM
baby jebus save me, but these people have recorded the voices of ghosts or spirits. Some enertainment found here at
Voices on the Wind, best of (http://www.mcmsys.com/~brammer/ourbest.htm)

sweetkb713
7th April 2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page425.html

~~ Paul

And what does this orb tell him? This is too funny.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
7th April 2004, 04:44 PM
The orb says, "Aaaack! Turn off the damn flash, you're blinding me!"

~~ Paul

Nigel
7th April 2004, 06:34 PM
I listened to several of the "voices", and I'm flabbergasted. Mainly because I hadn't used that word in awhile ("flabbergasted"). This sounds more like a baby doll than a baby. Or else a 40 year old man imitating a baby.

Nigel

http://www.mcmsys.com/~brammer/babycrying-final.wav

Dancing David
8th April 2004, 06:01 AM
I couldn't find a WAV for his mother grave, there are some that are unintelligible, the laughter in the hotel is the funniest.

Ed
8th April 2004, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Nigel
I listened to several of the "voices", and I'm flabbergasted. Mainly because I hadn't used that word in awhile ("flabbergasted"). This sounds more like a baby doll than a baby. Or else a 40 year old man imitating a baby.

Nigel

http://www.mcmsys.com/~brammer/babycrying-final.wav

I really like the word "flabbergasted": It conjures up the image of slack jawed incredulity. Unfortunately, one runs the risk on this board of overusing it:D

RamblingOnwards
8th April 2004, 07:37 AM
You know, I see orbs like that all the time. Fool me, I'd always thought it was simply a sign that I had failed to put in my contact lenses. Now I know the truth!

ca3799
8th April 2004, 01:55 PM
Did anyone hear the recording of "Hell"? I didn't go to the site, so I don't know it the recording is available there but they play it pretty regularly on the actual radio show (yes, I listen to the show- I can't help myself- kinda like a train wreck kind of thing).

The "Hell" recording was (supposedly) made by lowering the recorder down a very deep hole. BTW, they know it's deep becasue they throw junk into and never hear from the junk again (I am not making that up).

figtertype
8th April 2004, 02:53 PM
ca3799 wrote:
Did anyone hear the recording of "Hell"? I didn't go to the site, so I don't know it the recording is available there but they play it pretty regularly on the actual radio show (yes, I listen to the show- I can't help myself- kinda like a train wreck kind of thing).

The "Hell" recording was (supposedly) made by lowering the recorder down a very deep hole. BTW, they know it's deep becasue they throw junk into and never hear from the junk again (I am not making that up).


It isn't in the Voices on the wind site, but it is available for download on the Coast to Coast site here. (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/05/02.html)

You have to scroll down to related articles.

It sounds a lot like someone with some audio mixing tools and some spare time...

Psi Baba
9th April 2004, 10:56 AM
In that photo, what is that large round object that is attached to a sheet of glass? And why is the man holding an electric razor? Here's something weird though, there are several ghostly numbers 2 0 0 3 7 5 floating up from the tombstone and they don't seem to be part of the scenery in the photo. Now that's spooky.

sweetkb713
9th April 2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by figtertype


It isn't in the Voices on the wind site, but it is available for download on the Coast to Coast site here. (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/05/02.html)

You have to scroll down to related articles.

It sounds a lot like someone with some audio mixing tools and some spare time...

Yes. That whole 'hell' recording was described by someone to be the scariest thing they ever heard.

Give me a break.

Dancing David
9th April 2004, 06:43 PM
Yeah it sounds like Mexican radio!

Kopji
10th April 2004, 02:44 AM
Now, you people who believe this orb stuff...

There is a ring around the circumference of the orb that appears to be brighter than the rest of the orb. What is that?

If the bright 'ring' was the surface of the orb, wouldn't the entire surface look bright? There would be no ring. If anything, the surface of the orb 'closer' to the camera would be brighter, and the rest more dim.

The geometry works out only if the 'orb' is flat or slightly curved, maybe like the reflection off a camera lens.

In fact, the orb looks like it is being created by the guy holding the tape recorder, reflecting light directly into the camera lens.

Oh! but this would imply they are frauds, and knowingly creating the effect.

Abdul Alhazred
10th April 2004, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by Kopji
Now, you people who believe this orb stuff...

There is a ring around the circumference of the orb that appears to be brighter than the rest of the orb. What is that?



The orb's halo. :D

Zep
10th April 2004, 04:42 AM
Oh my aching sides. :rolleyes:

Hellbound
10th April 2004, 08:49 AM
Now, actually, to be fair, I do have to point out one thing about the halo.

If the orb were translucent and hollow, then you wold get a halo type effect, as you are looking through a greater depth of material at the edges. I could give them that one.

Not, mind you, that I think there is anything to this than a few angles and some photons, but I had to point that out.

Kopji
10th April 2004, 11:09 PM
huntsman
Humm, rats, are you sure? I thought about that for a little while. I would think that a translucent sphere would be just like a clear hanging lamp globe - There's no halo there when it is illuminated from the outside(?)...
Maybe an experiment would be better, I'm going to go look for myself before I say I'm completely wrong. (Its so distasteful to do).

I did actually run a quick Photoshop filter enhancement on the orb and it has some very what I'd call 'two dimensional' partial halos inside the globe. I'm not very good at that stuff though, maybe someone (anyone) else could take a look.

Shadows very unlike a ball anyway and much like a flat disk.

Hellbound
10th April 2004, 11:23 PM
Like I said, I don't believe it's anything either, simply trying to stretch the brain a bit and think of ways to play devil's advocate.

Think of something a little clearer than a frosted lamp globe. Even a clear glass globe might work. There is a definate change in light "texture" towards the edges, and it is possible that this could produce some sort of halo effect. Think of a hollow sphere where the sphere itself gives off light, not light from within or behind it, and you'll be more in line with my train of thought. I'll have to look around and see if I can find something to test that myself...maybe spraying a clear glass lamp globe with a luminescent paint?

Of course, I agree it otherwise does not look much like a sphere. I was simply pointing out that a 3 dimensional object could possibly have an outer edge halo :)

Fidelio
11th April 2004, 04:15 AM
That orb looks very very much like what I see when I collimate (align the optical elements of) a telescope using an out of focus star. The concetric ring is a diffraction effect. That it is so small means the lens (I'm betting lens and not mirror) is well collimated.

Funny thing is they could have made this way spookier. If you hold your hand in front of the telescope while doing this you'll see a silhouette of your hand with the convection currents of your body heat rising eeriely.

Abdul Alhazred
11th April 2004, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Fidelio
That orb looks very very much like what I see when I collimate (align the optical elements of) a telescope using an out of focus star. The concetric ring is a diffraction effect. That it is so small means the lens (I'm betting lens and not mirror) is well collimated.

Funny thing is they could have made this way spookier. If you hold your hand in front of the telescope while doing this you'll see a silhouette of your hand with the convection currents of your body heat rising eeriely.

What does this tell you about the effect on the diffraction index of the surrounding air of an angel's head? OK you see a halo even if the angel appears in the dark, but then the light is coming from the angel itself.

Perhaps there is some anecdotal evidence that needs to be investigated and pinned down, as to the angle of the angel with respect to the halo, depending on the level of ambient light.

As for orbs, perhaps the halo is merely the aura of the photographer. :D

HenDralux
13th April 2004, 09:07 PM
If you look closely, the orb appears to be behind the fence. Yet the fella holding his recorder out for the orb to 'speak into'...is clearly in front of the fence with the grave.

Leads me to ask, what have they used to create the orb effect?

NightG1
14th April 2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by HenDralux
If you look closely, the orb appears to be behind the fence. Yet the fella holding his recorder out for the orb to 'speak into'...is clearly in front of the fence with the grave.

Leads me to ask, what have they used to create the orb effect?
It sure wasn't Photoshop I can tell ya
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/nightg1/theorbofdunnellon.jpg

HenDralux
14th April 2004, 06:27 PM
I confess, I'm actually a little intrigued to what that actually is.

If they filled the object in later, why would they put it behind the fence?

I'm sure it's some kind of camera/light anomaly, but how would that have occured, with the fence still being visible, and the 'orb' behind it?

NightG1
14th April 2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by HenDralux
I confess, I'm actually a little intrigued to what that actually is.

If they filled the object in later, why would they put it behind the fence?

I'm sure it's some kind of camera/light anomaly, but how would that have occured, with the fence still being visible, and the 'orb' behind it?

I obviously do not know this to the point of absolute certainty but this looks like a Photoshop effect and a bad one at that. It is simple - circular selection filled with white on its own layer. Add a little noise and then add a solid white border of 2 or 3 pixels. Add an emboss filter and Gaussian blur and then make the layer with the "orb" semi-transparent. Real spooky.

edited to correct speiling

HenDralux
14th April 2004, 06:58 PM
Yes, I see what you mean.

It's just, I can't work out why they would 'put it' behind the fence. Doesn't fit in with the story. Also, nobody else seems to have commented on the fact it was behind the fence, so if it was important for them to to do it.....why did nobody mention that?

hehe...just picking over useless bones aren't I.

Bit curious though.

Kopji
28th April 2004, 09:25 PM
This seems like ancient history now, but I really did go over to a local hardware store and check out various glass globes used for lamps. (I tried not to attract too many suspicious looks from the salesperson).

A self lighted globe looks most like I imagined: a smooth globe with no 'rings around the edges.
A clear glass globe displayed something similar to 'ring' (not a perfect ring though) around the circumference, BUT there were other reflections on the surface of the globe.

Go try it: if you illuminate the surface of a glass ball there is always a small bright reflection on the surface that faces you.

So if the orb was lit from within, it would appear different, if it was lit from the camera lamp, it would appear different.

Combined with a tasteful claim of being able to say: 'I swear on my mother's grave this is an orb I'm interviewing', AND being convincing enough to get onto C2C, I say "a fine hoax". :D

richardm
29th April 2004, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by HenDralux
Yes, I see what you mean.

It's just, I can't work out why they would 'put it' behind the fence. Doesn't fit in with the story. Also, nobody else seems to have commented on the fact it was behind the fence, so if it was important for them to to do it.....why did nobody mention that?

hehe...just picking over useless bones aren't I.

Bit curious though.

I don't think it is behind the fence, Hen.

I agree with NightG1 - it's an emboss filter, or something similar, which has incorporated the fence into the embossing.

sweetkb713
29th April 2004, 09:33 AM
Someone remind me to film the camera reflection "orb" in the glass. I'm going to do that as soon as I'm done with all these documentaries.

odorousrex
29th April 2004, 10:52 AM
Assuming:
1) This "orb" is a ghost
2) Ghosts are extradimensional creatures

Why is the orb 2D? It looks like a coaster. If I'm going to die and come back to talk to you, I don't want to come back as a floating coaster.

I think they need to use the 3D Cutout, and Spherize Photoshop filters next time. Give it a little more spherical effect.