Guns don't shoot people, People shoot guns! [Archive]

corplinx

7th March 2003, 02:00 PM

http://penguinppc.org/~jeramy/PICS/glock.jpg

People shoot them with their digital cameras! I just put a stainless steel barrel in this fine gun. For the record, Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than any of my guns. :)

Kiri

7th March 2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by corplinx
http://penguinppc.org/~jeramy/PICS/glock.jpg

People shoot them with their digital cameras! I just put a stainless steel barrel in this fine gun. For the record, Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than any of my guns. :)

Very nice. A Glock, isn't it?

I shoot .22LR, myself...inexpensive and fun!:D

7th March 2003, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by corplinx
[BPeople shoot them with their digital cameras! [/B]

I'm more impressed by your workstation. :)

Segnosaur

7th March 2003, 02:29 PM

People don't kill people, Bullets do.

Guns just make the bullets go really really fast.

(Sorry, have no idea who said that first.)

corplinx

7th March 2003, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Kiri

Very nice. A Glock, isn't it?

I shoot .22LR, myself...inexpensive and fun!:D

Very inexpensive. In fact there is a group buy for 22LR conversion kits going on at glocktalk. 9mm is not nearly as cheap, but it is the least expensive of the self-defense calibers.

corplinx

7th March 2003, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by sundog

I'm more impressed by your workstation. :)

Its just a Sun Ultra2 with 2 300mhz ultra processors, creator3d graphics, and a gig of ram. It was high tech 4-5 years ago. :D

shanek

7th March 2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Segnosaur
Guns just make the bullets go really really fast.

(Sorry, have no idea who said that first.)

I think it was George Carlin.

Jedi Knight

7th March 2003, 05:46 PM

If you want to fire a real weapon, fire one of these. :D

http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/psg1case.jpg

The PSG-1 is a mighty fine weapon.

JK

corplinx

7th March 2003, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
If you want to fire a real weapon, fire one of these. :D

Rifles are for wimps. Here is a real man's gun. Combat grips and carry marks from being in my holster. (I think the europeans are about to stereotype up as american gun-crazy cowboys now Jedi)

http://penguinppc.org/~jeramy/PICS/kimber.jpg

Jedi Knight

7th March 2003, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by corplinx

Rifles are for wimps. Here is a real man's gun. Combat grips and carry marks from being in my holster. (I think the europeans are about to stereotype up as american gun-crazy cowboys now Jedi)

http://penguinppc.org/~jeramy/PICS/kimber.jpg

Hey, that is a nice weapon for close encounters.

JK

LeFevre

7th March 2003, 10:28 PM

lookin nice and slick there corplinx.

Jon_in_london

8th March 2003, 02:56 AM

Whatsa calibre of thata rifle JK?

Jon_in_london

8th March 2003, 03:08 AM

Its ugly its heavy its uncomfortable to tab with. It breaks down a lot but when it comes to the shooting.... I wouldnt want to be at the wrong end of the range. (get 10/10 head-shots at 200m, pretty good for a combat rifle!)

a_unique_person

8th March 2003, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by corplinx
http://penguinppc.org/~jeramy/PICS/glock.jpg

People shoot them with their digital cameras! I just put a stainless steel barrel in this fine gun. For the record, Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than any of my guns. :)

i am just imagining squeezing that trigger and the bullets spurting out of it right now.

The Fool

8th March 2003, 05:05 AM

Personally I prefer the XM777 Lightweight 155mm howitzer (LW155). Its Airmobile capabilities allow it to be taken with you when you go on holidays. It pays to scout around and pick up all your brass after having a wack at some ducks as the ammunition is quite expensive and home reloading is a must.

I took this picture when I was last camping out. The 155 is ideal for general campsite security. Here I'm engaging a noisy football game in the next campsite that was ruining the serenity of nature.

Jon_in_london

8th March 2003, 05:10 AM

You Fool! its much better to go skeet shooting with 'the grid-square removal service'

The Fool

8th March 2003, 05:17 AM

Jon, Is that you in the pic? My next problem is effective top cover, can you recommend a suitable air defense system? It will have to have an automatic track and engage system as I'm flat out keeping up the shells to the 155.

Jon_in_london

8th March 2003, 05:54 AM

Fool, if you are into duck shooting I would recomend getting one of these as they have both top cover and a 4' gun for getting those cheeky mallards in the hard to reach places:

Jon_in_london

8th March 2003, 05:55 AM

Fool, if you are into duck shooting I would recomend getting one of these as they have both top cover and a 4' gun for getting those cheeky mallards in those hard to reach places:

Iconoclast

8th March 2003, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by corplinx
http://penguinppc.org/~jeramy/PICS/kimber.jpg
I know nothing about guns, so I must ask a stupid question. What are the holes in the trigger for? Please don't say weight reduction, please don't say weight reduction.

shanek

8th March 2003, 07:25 AM

Richard G

8th March 2003, 07:33 AM

I gotta get a digital camera.

Richard G

8th March 2003, 07:34 AM

I gotta get a digital camera.

i am just imagining squeezing that trigger and the bullets spurting out of it right now.

You should try it some time. Helluva lot of fun. I've never seen a first time shooter that didn't have a big goofy grin on their face.

Jedi Knight

8th March 2003, 08:37 AM

The reason why most of the gun-grab radicals are militant feminists is because feminists have a fear of penetration.

They look at guns as things that "penetrate", thus are tools of masculinity--inventions that must be eradicated from the face of the earth.

JK

Jedi Knight

8th March 2003, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Whatsa calibre of thata rifle JK?

The H&K PSG-1 fires 7.62 MM high-velocity NATO rounds, although you can make your own variations.

JK

Denise

8th March 2003, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
The reason why most of the gun-grab radicals are militant feminists is because feminists have a fear of penetration.

They look at guns as things that "penetrate", thus are tools of masculinity--inventions that must be eradicated from the face of the earth.

JK

Most men I know are far more afraid of penetration if you know what I mean.

Anyhow, funny thread!

corplinx

8th March 2003, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Iconoclast

I know nothing about guns, so I must ask a stupid question. What are the holes in the trigger for? Please don't say weight reduction, please don't say weight reduction.

Yes it is, but it matters more than you think. Its called a "fully skeletonized trigger". Unlike most triggers that come down and you pull back at an angle, a colt style trigger come out of the back of the gun and pulls straight back.

However, the original colt trigger was a heavy, rough, and the parts it connected to were. With lighter and better machined triggers, hammers, and sears; the trigger pull has been reduced to 3.5 or 4 pounds for the gun in question. Because of the lighter trigger, hammer, and sear; the trigger also resets after a shot much nicer. Most people refer to a good colt style trigger pull as "breaking like glass". Nothing in the pistol world really compares.

Only a machinist or a shooter can really appreciate it.

There are many types of skeletonized triggers. The 3 hole design is used in many carry pistols since it has less chance of snagging than some other versions.

corplinx

8th March 2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by a_unique_person

i am just imagining squeezing that trigger and the bullets spurting out of it right now.

You don't squeeze the trigger. You press it with the pad of your finger. Bullets "spurting out" would be bad. Most concealable pistols are so light that the first shot flips up the muzzle. Ergo, if you just kept the pulling the trigger you wouldn't hit anything. You have to take time, realign your sights, and then fire again.

Its a good thing your average idiot has never taken a training class.

corplinx

8th March 2003, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
The reason why most of the gun-grab radicals are militant feminists is because feminists have a fear of penetration.

They look at guns as things that "penetrate", thus are tools of masculinity--inventions that must be eradicated from the face of the earth.

JK

L.... O..... friggin...... L.......

(Disclaimer: the author hates AOL shortenings such as LOL but can't resist)

Badger

8th March 2003, 01:52 PM

JK, while it's a cool looking rifle, it's not suited to its niche yet. It needs some work.

It's too heavy (18 lbs) for the punch it packs (.308 calibre). It needs more scope versatility (only a specific 6 power scope fits on it, thus limiting effective sniping range to 600 yds), and the trigger pull isn't downwardly adjustable enough (3.5 pounds pressure, minimum). No built in tripod. Oh, and it's way expensive ($10 000 US).

Personally, the only thing I like about it is the option of a 20 round magazine, which one would need if one is sniping from only 600 yards out.

A Remington 700 with 12 power scope and similar ammunition would probably out perform your PSG.

I second Corplinx response to your "penetration" comments.

Tricky

8th March 2003, 02:01 PM

Personally, I prefer this model. It is extremely inexpensive and ammunition costs are practically nil. Likelihood of lawsuits is minimal and no burgler will ever kill you with your own gun.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/mechtoys/gifs/rubbergun1.jpg

Badger

8th March 2003, 02:08 PM

Hee, hee! Good one Tricky!

Go here:

http://www.backyardartillery.com

Cool stuff abounds!

Troll

8th March 2003, 02:55 PM

Glad to see this thread is one of humor. Tired of the old gun debates here.

Knives don't stab people to death, people with knives do. Remember that the next time you're eating a steak and some twit may feel that banning the offensive weapon is better than punishing the idiot that used it improperly.

Iconoclast

8th March 2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by corplinx
However, the original colt trigger was a heavy, rough, and the parts it connected to were. With lighter and better machined triggers, hammers, and sears; the trigger pull has been reduced to 3.5 or 4 pounds for the gun in question. Because of the lighter trigger, hammer, and sear; the trigger also resets after a shot much nicer. Most people refer to a good colt style trigger pull as "breaking like glass". Nothing in the pistol world really compares.

Only a machinist or a shooter can really appreciate it.

There are many types of skeletonized triggers. The 3 hole design is used in many carry pistols since it has less chance of snagging than some other versions.
Thanks corplinx. Though I'm not at all interested in guns, I can certainly appreciate the design and engineering that goes into them.

Jedi Knight

8th March 2003, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Denise

Most men I know are far more afraid of penetration if you know what I mean.

Anyhow, funny thread!

lol

JK

corplinx

9th March 2003, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

The H&K PSG-1 fires 7.62 MM high-velocity NATO rounds, although you can make your own variations.

JK

Tell me you didn't fall in love with that gun from playing Counter-Strike

Tony

9th March 2003, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by Tricky
Personally, I prefer this model. It is extremely inexpensive and ammunition costs are practically nil. Likelihood of lawsuits is minimal and no burgler will ever kill you with your own gun.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/mechtoys/gifs/rubbergun1.jpg

Not only that, but when an intruder is raping your wife you can put his eye out.

Wolverine

9th March 2003, 07:00 AM

Although I've fired several, I really don't care for Glocks.

With some modifications, however, I might reconsider.

http://www.boomspeed.com/wolverine/newpistol.jpg

corplinx

9th March 2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Wolverine
[B]
With some modifications, however, I might reconsider.

They forgot a shoulder stock. Currently, attaching a stock to a pistol makes it illegal in the US even though both pistols and rifles are legal.

Wolverine

9th March 2003, 04:10 PM

Who needs a stock?! It's got a bipod. :D

Nikk

9th March 2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Wolverine
Who needs a stock?! It's got a bipod. :D

It must ruin the hang of your suit. The built in can opener also seems inconvenient and overspecified.

Bjorn

9th March 2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by corplinx
Currently, attaching a stock to a pistol makes it illegal in the US even though both pistols and rifles are legal. Corplinx, I'm still new in this country: Are you serious?

Denise,

Most men I know are far more afraid of penetration if you know what I mean. I guess we are. :p

As for Jedi's first statement about it: I come from a shooting family, and with many years of experience walked tall with my wife to a shooting range to show her how it's done.

OK - I can hit a guy at some distance, but my wife, first time with a gun in her hand, turned her head after a few minutes and said: Left or right eye? And then she put her shots where her mouth was.

I have no reasons whatesoever to believe that women can't shoot as good as men. :)

Wolverine

9th March 2003, 11:34 PM

Was going to post this before but forgot:

BB guns (http://www.pipersprecisionproducts.com/) I wish I'd had as a kid.

Check out the videos. :eek:

Talk about putting an eye out. :D

LeFevre

9th March 2003, 11:36 PM

lol oh ***** Wolverine, I need to get one of those baby-killers!

LeFevre

9th March 2003, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Wolverine
Was going to post this before but forgot:

BB guns (http://www.pipersprecisionproducts.com/) I wish I'd had as a kid.

Check out the videos. :eek:

Talk about putting an eye out. :D

feck dude that is mean lookin

corplinx

9th March 2003, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Bjorn
Corplinx, I'm still new in this country: Are you serious?

Yes. This country has all sorts of nonsensical gun laws. For instance, they ban noise suppressors. Outright ban. They banned them by calling them "silencers" even though they do not remotely silence a gun. They suppress the noise enough to where you don't get permanent ear damage. This law will never be repealed. I will get demagogued to death first.

Yes, putting a stock on a pistol breaks a federal law also.

America has tons of gun laws on the books. Some good, some bad. You can tell which laws were written and passed by people who have no idea how guns work or what they do.