Danny Jowenko dead?

[CompusMentus]

I've seen some reports (on truther fora) that Jowenko died in Holland in a car crash.

Perhaps one of our resident Dutch contributors can confirm this?

Sorry if this has been already reported here. I couldn't find anything with the search option. Mods feel free to merge. #


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[grandmastershek]

Reported here (http://www.mensenlinq.nl/mensenlinq/overlijdendg/site/advertentie/detail?aid=3635940&pid=3635941) Don't know the source's credibility.

[leftysergeant]

I found it in Engish on Whatreallyhappened.com. Almost word-for-word, I think. But is there some mention in the Dutch version of a dog in the car with him? I only know a few Dutch words.

[WildCat]

And this had absolutely nothing to do with my favorite kitty.

Nothing.


Understand?

[AJM8125]

Seems to be all a'buzz in truther circles, can't find any MSM source. Barry Jennings redux surely forthcoming.

[BaaBaa]

Hit #1 was Godlike Productions, so it HAS to be true.

[Sam.I.Am]

NWO Kitty was in Vegas shooting up a poker room (again). You can't blame him for this one.

[soliboy]

I found it in Engish on Whatreallyhappened.com. Almost word-for-word, I think. But is there some mention in the Dutch version of a dog in the car with him? I only know a few Dutch words.

There is.

"Ook zat er een hond in de auto".

[soliboy]

Seems to be all a'buzz in truther circles, can't find any MSM source. Barry Jennings redux surely forthcoming.

It's possible to find reports about the accident on some Dutch news sites:

hartvannederland.nl/nederland/zeeland/2011/dodelijk-ongeluk-in-serooskerke/

hvzeeland.nl/Nieuws/Item?nid=17089

but the victim's identity had not been made known by the time these reports were published.

The accident happened though, and a dog was in the car.

I don't think you're likely to find much beyond this in the MSM.

[CompusMentus]

It's possible to find reports about the accident on some Dutch news sites:
hartvannederland.nl/nederland/zeeland/2011/dodelijk-ongeluk-in-serooskerke/
hvzeeland.nl/Nieuws/Item?nid=17089
but the victim's identity had not been made known by the time these reports were published.
The accident happened though, and a dog was in the car.
I don't think you're likely to find much beyond this in the MSM.



Thanks for that soliboy.

One of the truthers mentioned an obituary by the crash victims wife (I think) perhaps that could confirm it's the right guy. I can't remember where it was now I'll look it up later......

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[Oystein]

The news site in the OP talks about "Danny Jowenko uit de gemeente Veere" (Danny Jowenko from the municipality of Veere). Veere is indeed where Jowenko's company, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V. (http://www.jowenko.com/index.php/1,3,1), is located.

No report of his death on the company's homepage yet: http://www.jowenko.com (however, that site is very static, don't find any updated pages on anything)

Let me try a translation of this report (http://www.mensenlinq.nl/mensenlinq/overlijdendg/site/advertentie/detail?advid=3639727&pid=3635941):
Danny Jowenko from the municipality of Veere has lost his life in Serooskerke on saturday evening by a frontal crash against a tree.

The accident happened shortly before half past seven (near?) the commercial area De Zompe at the intersection of Wilgenhoekweg and Hondegemseweg. The victim sat trapped and died on the spot. A dog sat in the car, too. It still lived, and is taken by the animal ambulance.

[Oystein]

Here is an obituary:

http://i51.tinypic.com/30b0oqw.jpg

I paraphrase:
Hope
Man is part of nature
Nature always moves
There is no stillstand, rest or ... (?)
Only growth and change

We are uncurably sad because of the death of our dear husband and dad Danny Jowenko
Born in Middelburg 14th december 1955, died in Veere 16th july 2011
Ingrid Rijkse
Nicky
Layla

Veerseweg 107, 4351 SL Veere (That is the company address?!)

Danny has been taken to the mourning room 'Middelburg', Buitenhoovelaan 1. There will be the opportunity for farewell on wednesday 20th july between 7:30pm and 8:30pm.

The cremation ceremony will take place on thursday 21st july 3pm in the crematory at the Westelijke Oude Havendijk 3 in Middelburg.

After the ceremony is an opportunity to condole the family at the restaurant 'De Tropen' at the Damplein 27 in Middelburg.

If you haven't received a mourning letter, please consider this advertisement as such.

[bill smith]

It's possible to find reports about the accident on some Dutch news sites:

hartvannederland.nl/nederland/zeeland/2011/dodelijk-ongeluk-in-serooskerke/

hvzeeland.nl/Nieuws/Item?nid=17089

but the victim's identity had not been made known by the time these reports were published.

The accident happened though, and a dog was in the car.

I don't think you're likely to find much beyond this in the MSM.

Maybe 'Zembla' who screened his profssional opinion of the controlled demolition of WTC7 on Dutch TV would be interested.

[MetalPig]

Maybe 'Zembla' who screened his profssional opinion of the controlled demolition of WTC7 on Dutch TV would be interested.
Why? :confused:

[twinstead]

I think some truther killed him because although his professional opinion that WTC7 was a demolition was helpful, his professional opinion that WTC1 and WTC2 couldn't possibly have been CD pretty much screwed that up completely.

[bill smith]

I think some truther killed him because although his professional opinion that WTC7 was a demolition was helpful, his professional opinion that WTC1 and WTC2 couldn't possibly have been CD pretty much screwed that up completely.

WTC7 will do fine on it's own. I dare say we will be able to swing back to the Twin Towers at that point for another look.

[Oystein]

Folks, maybe we wait a few hours (less than 9, at which time Ingrid, Nicky and Layla will retire to their bedrooms after a day of mourning) until the man is properly entombed, and his family has said their goodbyes? Nothing has changed with regard to Danny's thoughts on 9/11, except that he can no longer be asked. His death is not really a good reason to rehash speculations about how he formed opinions some years ago. We've done all that more than enough.

[Sam.I.Am]

Was that just something that gets messed up when you translate it into english or are there actual animal ambulances there?

[DC]

Maybe 'Zembla' who screened his profssional opinion of the controlled demolition of WTC7 and WTC 1 and 2 on Dutch TV would be interested.

not that you forget his oppinion about those collapses

[MetalPig]

Was that just something that gets messed up when you translate it into english or are there actual animal ambulances there?
Yes, we actually have those.
They're not exactly like normal ambulances; they don't have blue flashing lights, and have to obey traffic laws.

[NoahFence]

WTC7 will do fine on it's own. I dare say we will be able to swing back to the Twin Towers at that point for another look.

And the Pentagon and Shanksville?

[leftysergeant]

To forestall any speculation that he was killed to sillence him, I took note of the dog specificly because dogs can sometimes cause accidents when they interfere with or distract the driver. That may explain why he left the road for no immediately apparent reason.

[leftysergeant]

Was that just something that gets messed up when you translate it into english or are there actual animal ambulances there?I got the impression that Europeans become even more attached to the family pets than Americans do. Their animal cruelty laws are even more stringent, apparently.

From a fire fighter's perspective, it also makes sense to do what can be done to save the life of a family pet after a fire or particularly ghastly traffic accident. The loss of property or of a family member can only be aggravated if a beloved pet is also lost.

[twinstead]

WTC7 will do fine on it's own. I dare say we will be able to swing back to the Twin Towers at that point for another look.

No, the WTC1 and 2 will do fine on their own. I dare say we will be able to swing back to WTC7 at that point for another look...whoops, too late...it wasn't CD either!

[alienentity]

Here is an obituary:

http://i51.tinypic.com/30b0oqw.jpg

I paraphrase:

You're right, the obit includes the same address as that of the company. I just checked his company website
http://www.jowenko.com/index.php/1,3,1

Veerseweg 107
NL - 4351 SL VEERE

Unfortunate news. Certainly unrelated to his views on 9/11, just as Barry Jenning's death was.

I'm also certain that conspiracists will seize upon this and weave it into their twisted fantasies. That's what they do.... hopefully they won't harass his family like they did Jenning's.

PS thanks for the translation Oystein

[Wolrab]

Now the truthers can abuse his name with impunity, just like they did with (IIRC) Frank Demartini (sp.?). Bastards.

[alienentity]

Now the truthers can abuse his name with impunity, just like they did with (IIRC) Frank Demartini (sp.?). Bastards.

You're right. I just checked a few blog references to his passing, and already a bunch of posts claimed that he thought all 3 WTC towers were CD's, which is not what he said.

I suppose that is what mythology is all about - a grain of truth surrounded by a sea of embellishment.

[leftysergeant]

How long until they reach the conclusion that we offed him?

[twinstead]

How long until they reach the conclusion that we offed him?

Well, if we hid the evidence properly, hopefully never...

[MetalPig]

Well, if we hid the evidence properly, hopefully never...
Plus, we used a dog instead of a kitty, so they'll never suspect us.

[Bell]

Plus, we used a dog instead of a kitty, so they'll never suspect us.

:dl:

[Crazy J]

Some agent of the Bush/Cheney/NWO/CIA/Mossad/Jewish/Freemason/Illuminati was hired to kill him. Atleast thats what the truthers are going to tell us. Anyhow, if this is true then R.I.P. Danny Jowenko.

[soliboy]

Some agent of the Bush/Cheney/NWO/CIA/Mossad/Jewish/Freemason/Illuminati was hired to kill him. Atleast thats what the truthers are going to tell us. Anyhow, if this is true then R.I.P. Danny Jowenko.

I echo that last sentence.

It saddens me greatly to see dit sort things, but surprises me not a bit:

deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?7772-Dutch-Demolition-Expert-Danny-Jowenko-Dies-in-Car-Crash/page2

I'm not an actuary, but by my count, that is at least two important witnesses or experts on the collapse of WTC7 dead.....perhaps more, I haven't been keeping track like Penn Jones did. Maybe it is time to start just such as list of suspicious deaths related to 9/11.


The remains of no-one can RIP with this lot. Nothing is co-incidence, everything is a plot. The names of the dead will be happily dragged through the mud, anything which keeps the fantasy going.

Not to mention, to be an actuary requires a lot more than being able to count to two or slightly above.

[Oystein]

I echo that last sentence.

It saddens me greatly to see dit sort things, but surprises me not a bit:

deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?7772-Dutch-Demolition-Expert-Danny-Jowenko-Dies-in-Car-Crash/page2




The remains of no-one can RIP with this lot. Nothing is co-incidence, everything is a plot. The names of the dead will be happily dragged through the mud, anything which keeps the fantasy going.

Not to mention, to be an actuary requires a lot more than being able to count to two or slightly above.


How many names of witnesses and experts have been abused by the truth movement since 2001? What was their average age? How many years have past? Ergo: What percentage / how many of them would be expected to die in that time if mortality among 9/11 witnesses and experts was the same as that for any random group of adults in the western world? Or do you expect all of these people to be immortal?
During the same time, 2 of my colleagues died. My company had a total of no more than 50 or 60 diferent employees during those 10 years, most of them relatively young (in their 20s and 30s) in 2001.
Do you think my company is victim to a conspiracy, because 2 of us died? Do you think the TM has less than 50 crown witnesses, total? Or does it dawn on you now that people dying is the most natural thing in the world?

[Jono]

I'm sad to hear it. Sadly, we all know how and what the truthers will respond with.

[leftysergeant]

Given that post traumatic stress can cause physical illness later in life, it is a surprise that more people haven't just tipped over dead.